Quote Originally Posted by Lithium777 View Post
i think the main problem, and this is my opinion too, is that they JUST revamped the trait lines. If he wanted to do more he should have done it with the hunter update or postponed the hunter update until he COULD get it all done... the underlying issue is we just got a complete *and good* revamp. What is the point in changing it AGAIN. That is the stupid part, what isengard needs to do to the 6 classes who received an udpate is add new skills, and add new traits into the lines...but not rework the lines again. Also Isengard needs to add 5 set bonuses to match the burgs now. And maybe even add 6 and 7 set bonuses past slotting the cap stone... What Isengard doesn't need to do is completely revamp traitlines that JUST got revamped. Perfect the changes and tweak them is the most we should see.
I definitely understand the point about the class having just been worked over, but over time, it has been one of the more neglected and seemingly more difficult class to balance. I also agree that the class functions really well right now... and if there is any complaint its in the lack of certain skill functionality and shallowness of play (as others have mentioned).

One thing that makes me much more welcoming of these (potential) changes is that in the past, changes would be made and they weren't always that great (BKs 10 and 11, MoM BK 7) and we would get these promises to review the changes. Now I see a very different approach, where Turbine has made some really good, measured changes and seeing how those have played out, is putting in the effort to be closer to its design ideals and (hopefully) more engaging to play.

I have leveled a lot of criticism at Turbine in the past for seemingly senseless changes and poor communication... so when I actually see logic to some changes and see continuity in development, I don't really sweat it too much. Of course I want to see the details of these changes and give more specific feedback... and I may not even be that fond of the end result (I did suggest the initial ideas for Fleet Stance on these boards), but I will at the very least participate in the discussion and see what the changes are before I protest them.