Quote Originally Posted by Joedangod View Post
Where'd I say that they must have no defensive support at all? I can find a lot of places where I say that they shouldn't have defensive support on the level of IHW/Shield but can't find the "No defensive support at all" bit.
You'd certainly prefer it if they didn't

Quote Originally Posted by Joedangod View Post
Nice, what're the big chank and yellow guard defensive support abilities again?
Still not reading the whole sentence are we? and in most cases, specifically defensive support

Quote Originally Posted by Joedangod View Post
I mean really I've been going the other way and saying that guard/bear/warden offer "enough" support as is and that's why Captain should be reduced...
So is it enough? Or is it minimal?

Quote Originally Posted by Joedangod View Post
They offer minimal support and that support is primarily in the form of a mitigation debuff to bump damage a bit. They aren't even well implemented debuffs, they basically just force representation as certain classes find themselves being brought for that one debuff first, their own personal DPS/Healing/Tanking/Whateverr second. At best these other tanks dip their toe into performing a secondary role