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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    While we're on the topic the correct spelling of the dictionary is Merriam-Webster not Mirriam

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    Talking Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Also, the reason that many words such as "through" (by the way, most Americans spell it through, I'd just seen thru on signs to make it shorter) are spelled that way is because that when they were first written down, all the letters were pronounced. In the word "through" they would pronounce the o and the g and the h. In words like "here" they would pronounce both "e"s. Over time the language revolved, vowels and sounds got dropped and moved around, but we retained the old spellings, which is why it's such a mess now.

    Anyway, one of my pet peeves is when a British person gripes about how Americans spell. I just want to put up a picture of the Atlantic ocean and say, "NOTICE ANYTHING THAT COULD CAUSE A DIFFERENTIATION IN LANGUAGE, BUDDY?" But I don't, I'm a nice person. But I still say that if you call Americans stupid because they don't include the letter "o" in color you need to get your head out of your ignorant butt, you big fat jerk.

    Hey, this is all off topic now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysoprase View Post
    Also, the reason that many words such as "through" (by the way, most Americans spell it through, I'd just seen thru on signs to make it shorter) are spelled that way is because that when they were first written down, all the letters were pronounced. In the word "through" they would pronounce the o and the g and the h. In words like "here" they would pronounce both "e"s. Over time the language revolved, vowels and sounds got dropped and moved around, but we retained the old spellings, which is why it's such a mess now.

    Anyway, one of my pet peeves is when a British person gripes about how Americans spell. I just want to put up a picture of the Atlantic ocean and say, "NOTICE ANYTHING THAT COULD CAUSE A DIFFERENTIATION IN LANGUAGE, BUDDY?" But I don't, I'm a nice person. But I still say that if you call Americans stupid because they don't include the letter "o" in color you need to get your head out of your ignorant butt, you big fat jerk.

    Hey, this is all off topic now.

    Actually you dont inclue the U, were fine with your amount of O's. But im a Kiwi, not British, so Im exempt.
    Also, I dont think anyone has ever said an American is stupid for spelling things differently. Is just the way language is, which is what makes it interesting.
    The only thing that annoys me is that Misrosoft didnt do enough research when it wrote word and even in NZ spelling they keep trying to make me put ize instead of ise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantee View Post
    who would need to fish if you could just catch them in the air
    Don't laugh...my father shot a large buffalo carp when it flopped into the air in the middle of a corn-field. He thought it was a duck.

    Anyway, I'm even starting to get off-topic. Blah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burning_Tyger View Post
    Actually, I am fairly certain the English language had plenty of conventional spelling rules at the time the North American colonies were formed. It has nothing to do with the natural differentiation of language separated over time.
    Pick up any book with the writings of, for example, early American "founding fathers" or the like. They didn't even spell the same word the same way in the same letter, let alone have conventions.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Vayde_Vilya View Post
    Pick up any book with the writings of, for example, early American "founding fathers" or the like. They didn't even spell the same word the same way in the same letter, let alone have conventions.
    The early American Colonial Governments didn't have conventional rules, let alone how to spell words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMPIRENZ View Post
    Actually you dont inclue the U, were fine with your amount of O's. But im a Kiwi, not British, so Im exempt.
    Also, I dont think anyone has ever said an American is stupid for spelling things differently. Is just the way language is, which is what makes it interesting.
    The only thing that annoys me is that Misrosoft didnt do enough research when it wrote word and even in NZ spelling they keep trying to make me put ize instead of ise.
    I lot of the people on the internet do. It happens all the time. Of course, it's not like they matter. But it's still annoying. It's the same people that go, "YOU MISSPELLED A WORD, YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS NEGATED! MORAN!"
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    A while back I noticed a broken ring of stone on the ridge dividing north and south Barrow Downs was curious if that was the barrow ol' Tom rescued the hobbits from. As I recall it was basically flattened and the treasures within scattered on the ground. The text said he collapsed the inner chamber so I'm not sure if the whole thing was pulled down or not. On the ring of stones I thought I saw an archway that could have been the door to the barrow.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Does Thornley's Worksite have any connection to lore? I just noticed today that they've actually made progress on the construction over time. I wonder who's building such a big place...

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by FormulaTroll View Post
    Does Thornley's Worksite have any connection to lore? I just noticed today that they've actually made progress on the construction over time. I wonder who's building such a big place...
    Really? I'll have to go check it out. I'm curious now.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by redviolin06 View Post
    Really? I'll have to go check it out. I'm curious now.
    I think so. Now I'm second guessing myself though. It's been a long time since I paid much attention to it, but at first glance it really stood out to me as being more substantial than I recalled.

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    There's a rabbit hiding in the Bird and Baby, the same room as the "inklings". Any hidden nuggest explaining this?

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Terrific thread!

    I don't want to dump spoilers on people who haven't done book 11, but I wanted to mention I thought I saw some story parallels with the fate of Celebrian in the books.

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Two of my favorite nuggest are in Bree.

    The painted portrait of the Elven hunter in the Scholar Trainer house is one of the best paintings in the game.

    The cat lady's house up on the Scholar's walk.





    As for the barrow where the hobbits were rescued, I have been searching for it too and have not made up my mind yet which one it is. Maybe we should have a screen shot contest as to which is most likely.



    Oh and as for spelling, if you go back to before 1820 or so, it was often due (just spelled that "do" lol) to the fact typesetters would run out of letters when doing a book or newspaper, so they would use alternate spelling. This is one reason English in general has so many words that are pronounced the same way but spelled differently, as well as names like Stewart and Stuart being interchangable. Modern English developed around the same time as the printing press and around the time of the King James Bible and Shakespeare etc, there were often limited supplies of letters in a given printer's shop. The more popular the book, play, poem or pamphlet, the more likely the particular spelling in it would catch on and become the norm.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaelivor View Post
    Two of my favorite nuggest are in Bree.

    The painted portrait of the Elven hunter in the Scholar Trainer house is one of the best paintings in the game.

    The cat lady's house up on the Scholar's walk.
    But who is that a painting of? And what's the lore connection with the cat lady house? Been trying to figure that out for awhile....
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Could it be Queen Berúthiel's descendant, or is the cat lady actually nice to her cats?

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    Funny story about the cat lady's house. Not funny as in ha-ha, but one of those serendipitous moments that makes you pause for a second.

    I was mindlessly wandering through Bree just days after I had to put my own cat, Merlyn, to sleep. I opened this door and there were cats all over the place! I'm not sure I believe in omens, but I do wonder if there wasn't some higher purpose to me finding that particular house at that particular time.

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    Well I hope so.

    My two guys Roy Snuchicken (named after a commerical for Roy's New Chicken Sandwich) and the Count Petey Tagliabu Von Farfignewton both died of old age in recent years. Maybe I enjoy the catlady house for the same reasons.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Neoglaurung View Post
    A while back I noticed a broken ring of stone on the ridge dividing north and south Barrow Downs was curious if that was the barrow ol' Tom rescued the hobbits from. As I recall it was basically flattened and the treasures within scattered on the ground. The text said he collapsed the inner chamber so I'm not sure if the whole thing was pulled down or not. On the ring of stones I thought I saw an archway that could have been the door to the barrow.
    Whoever made the google maps Frodo path to Rivendell put the Dead Spire as the Barrow Tom rescued them from. (From memory, I havent looked at it in a couple months)
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    That would not make sense since it is still whole and lots of active wights.

    My guess is one of the mounds that don't do anything. But really, I think it is the one where we have to fight that signature woman and her creban minions. Doesn't she say something about hobbits in her little talk?

    I think the idea is we get there right when she is there checking out what remains of the barrow after Tom collapsed it.

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    Here is the portrait I was referring to:

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaelivor View Post
    That would not make sense since it is still whole and lots of active wights.

    My guess is one of the mounds that don't do anything. But really, I think it is the one where we have to fight that signature woman and her creban minions. Doesn't she say something about hobbits in her little talk?

    I think the idea is we get there right when she is there checking out what remains of the barrow after Tom collapsed it.

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    Here is the portrait I was referring to:

    I can give no rational explaination... but it makes me think of Beleg Cúthalion, The Strongbow.
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellgato View Post
    Whoever made the google maps Frodo path to Rivendell put the Dead Spire as the Barrow Tom rescued them from. (From memory, I havent looked at it in a couple months)
    The barrow where the "Last Prince" pops up in Lalia's escort is the barrow from which Frodo and company were rescued. Frodo was captured at the Dead Spire, but he and his companions were taken to the barrow of the Last Prince of Cardolan.

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by sdaorss0rc View Post
    I can give no rational explaination... but it makes me think of Beleg Cúthalion, The Strongbow.
    That was my thought, too, sdaorss0c.

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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Why would the Last Prince be there when Tom had destroyed the barrow and chased away/destroyed its owner?
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    Re: Hidden Nuggets we see all the time...

    Quote Originally Posted by thinkingbear View Post
    And what's the lore connection with the cat lady house?
    Don't know. No spoilers here, but I was surprised when I was on a quest that involved that house...

 

 
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