Upcoming Changes to PvMP!

[Jalessa]

You know....I haven't seen many pictures of spiders (since I'm not a real big fan of the real life crawlies - I can tolerate them) that make me want to reach down and pat the poor spider's head, feed it a tiny biscuit, pick it up, and cuddle it.

This picture almost made it want to do that.

Woah. He looks like a puppy!

[Faithknight]

the 25% infamy/renoun change is a breath of fresh air, thank you so much dev's

[MummyLord]

You know....I haven't seen many pictures of spiders (since I'm not a real big fan of the real life crawlies - I can tolerate them) that make me want to reach down and pat the poor spider's head, feed it a tiny biscuit, pick it up, and cuddle it.

This picture almost made it want to do that.

Woah.

Since you are in mood for a weaver why not let the weaver changes slip into the notes....and clarify the 25% reduction on xp needed for rank (25% off each req or 25% less from one rank to the next?) *Stare into those spider eyes......*

[bprorsum]

Dear Turbine,

Please look up the word balance.

Thank you,

From another Creep and Freep.

[Rugzug]

btw: you all need to add in WL and spider changes quick, your makin them cry : ( --- running out of time cause you know you wanna put in book 7 next week!!! please!!!!!!

[nikito]

-The amount of infamy/renown required for all ranks has been reduced by approximately 25%.

Thanks for this.

Any changes to the slayer deeds in ettenmoores? I know some people dont care about them. But I do.

Changes being:
-anyone in the raid/party gets a kill it counts towards the deed
and/or
-The deeds slayer numbers are reduced significantly, like 90%.

I did the math one time and it was if you killed 1 creep every 2 minutes, non-stop, it took almost 2 years to finish 1 of those Slayer deeds.

Its not that its hard, its just damn near impossible to finish.

[gamble]

clarify the 25% reduction on xp needed for rank (25% off each req or 25% less from one rank to the next?)

I'm not sure what you want to clarify... as an example 75% of 10 is 7.5 now if you take 4 'ranks' to get to a total of 10, and for example the rank increments would require 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and you take 75% of each of those values you get 0.75 + 1.5 + 2.25 + 3 which is 7.5.... low and behold from early math principles....

0.75(10) == 0.75(1) + 0.75(2) + 0.75(3) + 0.75(4) == 0.75(1+2+3+4)

so whether you take 75% of the total or you take the sum of 75% of each preceeding rank...you'll get the same value.

[Redbeaver]

ooh, ill b hitting r9 as soon as i log in lol

here comes the black horse!

[Rugzug]

Any changes to the slayer deeds in ettenmoores?

would be nice... considering freep deeds where lowered in requirements... i think freep tier 4 slayer deed is 5000... creep still needs 10000...

[UCFgirl21]

I think a lot of people who are complaining about lowering rank requirements, have probably never played creepside after MoM released.

I understand and a agree with a few of the vets objections that creeps should still have to earn the lower ranks so they can properly learn to play their class, but when you start getting into the rank 9,10,11 catagory...it just becomes tough to grind out those ranks (especially with the new renown/infamy system) and lets face it; the rewards for doing so are somewhat lackluster. I think seeing some higher ranked creeps/freeps around will be good and give people more of an incentive to keep out there and in the fight!

Its no secret too that after the release of MoM, creeps need some definite love. With legendary weapons, new freep trait lines, radiance gear, the addition of more freep cc, and mega hunter dmg...how can anyone say that pvmp is anywhere near balanced right now.

So far I think the new book 7 pvmp changes are great and I look forward to seeing them in action. I'm not looking for an OP creepside, I just would like to see some balanced fights. Thanks devs for doing what you can to make that happen!

[Jalessa]

Since you are in mood for a weaver why not let the weaver changes slip into the notes....and clarify the 25% reduction on xp needed for rank (25% off each req or 25% less from one rank to the next?) *Stare into those spider eyes......*

*Her eyes glaze over* Perhaps I'll get with Frelorn, and maybe arrange something with the next note set...

But then again, Frelorn has my notes...he has a mind of his own

As for the rank stuff, here's what you can roughly expect. Please note the following:
- this may be subject to change
- i did not nerf down rank 1 - since it was already pretty low.
- oatmeal raisinet cookies are my favorite

*dusts off the chart*

1 - 500
2 - 1250
3 - 2750
4 - 5750
5 - 14750
6 - 33500
7 - 71000
8 - 146000
9 - 258500
10 - 408500
11 - 633500
12 - 1008500
13 - 1608500
14 - 2508500
15 - 3708500

[TheOneRinger]

Thanks for this.

Any changes to the slayer deeds in ettenmoores? I know some people dont care about them. But I do.

Changes being:
-anyone in the raid/party gets a kill it counts towards the deed
and/or
-The deeds slayer numbers are reduced significantly, like 90%.

I did the math one time and it was if you killed 1 creep every 2 minutes, non-stop, it took almost 2 years to finish 1 of those Slayer deeds.

Its not that its hard, its just damn near impossible to finish.

Or make it so the less KB-getting classes can get other's credit i.e. Minstrel, cuz I have to heal all the time I no can haz slayer titles lol.

j/k I don't care about those titles. Maybe I'll get something past Neophyte on my hunter someday... maybe... but minstrel and guard are not going to pretty much ever lol. Well I'm glad for the infamy/renown changes, I am curious if it means I'll get more renown/infamy towards my current ranks. i.e. my minstrel is rank 4. Will he, because of the cost decrease, re-acquire the renown that was no longer required for ranks 2, 3, and 4 towards rank 5? If so it might encourage me to finally try and get rank 5 lol ;P



do I get a reward for posting cookies first? If not I may not be able to hold you-know-who back...

[MummyLord]

*Her eyes glaze over* Perhaps I'll get with Frelorn, and maybe arrange something with the next note set...

But then again, Frelorn has my notes...he has a mind of his own

As for the rank stuff, here's what you can roughly expect. Please note the following:
- this may be subject to change
- i did not nerf down rank 1 - since it was already pretty low.
- chocolate chip cookies are my favorite

*dusts off the chart*

1 - 500
2 - 1250
3 - 2750
4 - 5750
5 - 14750
6 - 33500
7 - 71000
8 - 146000
9 - 258500
10 - 408500
11 - 633500
12 - 1008500
13 - 1608500
14 - 2508500
15 - 3708500

Thank you very much. edit: that will help at lower levels immensely but the upper ranks are still out of reach for most of us (especially weavers). But anything is appreciated and I am smiling for the first time in months.....

[MummyLord]

I'm not sure what you want to clarify... as an example 75% of 10 is 7.5 now if you take 4 'ranks' to get to a total of 10, and for example the rank increments would require 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and you take 75% of each of those values you get 0.75 + 1.5 + 2.25 + 3 which is 7.5.... low and behold from early math principles....

0.75(10) == 0.75(1) + 0.75(2) + 0.75(3) + 0.75(4) == 0.75(1+2+3+4)

so whether you take 75% of the total or you take the sum of 75% of each preceeding rank...you'll get the same value.

You are right of course...I left out a rank during my scribbles and so got the numbers mixed up in my haste to rank. Thanks.

[gamble]

Or make it so the less KB-getting classes can get other's credit i.e. Minstrel, cuz I have to heal all the time I no can haz slayer titles lol.

j/k I don't care about those titles. Maybe I'll get something past Neophyte on my hunter someday... maybe... but minstrel and guard are not going to pretty much ever lol. Well I'm glad for the infamy/renown changes, I am curious if it means I'll get more renown/infamy towards my current ranks. i.e. my minstrel is rank 4. Will he, because of the cost decrease, re-acquire the renown that was no longer required for ranks 2, 3, and 4 towards rank 5? If so it might encourage me to finally try and get rank 5 lol ;P

Well, look at it this way... you don't spend renown points to acquire the ranks that you have, but more simply your running total is checked against the threshhold values for the ranks... pretty much as long as you have more renown than the value required for the rank you will receive that rank. your total renown accumulated will remain unchanged after book 7 but the new benchmark numbers will be lower than they were before...thus when the check is performed on your renown total vs. the rank number, you may potential be bumped up to the next rank.

Nothing can be lost when nothing is spent

[Pusher]

I was hoping the infamy/renown requirements would be decreased as a different percentage for every level and not just a flat percentage. The higher levels are still pretty insane for requirements. And dropping the lower ranks will just make those ranks less of an accomplishment.


Thanks for all the positive changes though, keep'em coming.

[TheOneRinger]

Well, look at it this way... you don't spend renown points to acquire the ranks that you have, but more simply your running total is checked against the threshhold values for the ranks... pretty much as long as you have more renown than the value required for the rank you will receive that rank. your total renown accumulated will remain unchanged after book 7 but the new benchmark numbers will be lower than they were before...thus when the check is performed on your renown total vs. the rank number, you may potential be bumped up to the next rank.

Nothing can be lost when nothing is spent

That is what I was hoping for, thanks.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

do I get a reward for posting cookies first?

You would if you posted her preferred cookie of choice. Those are chocolate chip, not oatmeal raisin. Delicious to be sure but still, not what she was looking for so no reward.

I, on the other hand shall be rewarded handsomely!

[NYSEguy1970]

now I'm in a quandry w/the lower rank thresholds....

my BA will likely be bumped to rank 5 which was my immediate goal for him.....so, yay BA.

a primary driver of my attention shifting to my BA was the long way to rank 10 on my weaver.

However, my weaver will be w/i spitting distance of rank 10 since i've got about 350k worth of inf on him now....

Hmmm, so do I lay down some more progress now towards rank 10 on my weaver or do i lay down more progress towards rank 6 on my BA?

blast you Turbine!!!! j/k

[Thorandril]

now I'm in a quandry w/the lower rank thresholds....

my BA will likely be bumped to rank 5 which was my immediate goal for him.....so, yay BA.

a primary driver of my attention shifting to my BA was the long way to rank 10 on my weaver.

However, my weaver will be w/i spitting distance of rank 10 since i've got about 350k worth of inf on him now....

Hmmm, so do I lay down some more progress now towards rank 10 on my weaver or do i lay down more progress towards rank 6 on my BA?

blast you Turbine!!!! j/k

Still waiting on those spider pics, I'm doubting you have them!

[Ziggles]

Can we please get an ETA on Book 7 that isn't vague or ambiguous?

[gildhur]

Can we please get an ETA on Book 7 that isn't vague or ambiguous?

No. 567890

[Ziggles]

+1 to the comment about LOS issues.

Hunters shooting around walls, through roofs.

LM's mezzing through trees, draining power from 100m's away.

This needs to be fixed and it long overdue as well.

Every creep has experienced death around the corner.

Running inside a keep, turn a corner and think you are safe and then BAM hit for 2k from Hunter DPS around a keep corner. PLEASE FIX!

[Ziggles]

No. 567890

way to fail but good for you boosting your post count.

[gildhur]

way to fail but good for you boosting your post count.

Likewise.

They don't give patch release dates until usually the week of or before the release. And given that Kehleyr just posted yesterday that Isengard isn't even back up yet, much less testing Book 7, that's still a long way away.

Yes, it was a short answer, but still an accurate one. NOT YOURS.