The Palantir of Osgiliath (Question)

[Serin36]

You recall incorrectly.

The Witch-king had nothing to do with the binding of Thaurlach. It was indeed the Blue Wizards (though we can't name them directly in the game) that assisted the Elves with the binding.

Can't you just re-translate them into something similar?

[Vond]

What's Sindarin for Navy Wizards?

[Berephon]

Can't you just re-translate them into something similar?

We did indeed retranslate them in-house (no, I'm not going to tell you what they are).

[dalk0]

Does this perhaps help w/ the naming of the blue wizards?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Wizards

[Berephon]

Does this perhaps help w/ the naming of the blue wizards?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Wizards

Unfortunately, because those names do not appear in LotR, only in extant texts which we don't have the license for, we can't use them. We have, however, come up with appropriate names.

[abrahamL]

Berephon, has the naming issue ever wanted to make you thrust a miniature Anduril through your eyes? (letter opener size)

[Berephon]

Berephon, has the naming issue ever wanted to make you thrust a miniature Anduril through your eyes? (letter opener size)

Honestly, the only times this desire comes upon me is when some dirty-minded individual twists a name I generate into something obscene...which of course with the myriad languages we deal with isn't hard. What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene. I guess I'm just not dirty-minded enough.

[gildhur]

Unfortunately, because those names do not appear in LotR, only in extant texts which we don't have the license for, we can't use them. We have, however, come up with appropriate names.

So does that man we will meet them one day?

Honestly, the only times this desire comes upon me is when some dirty-minded individual twists a name I generate into something obscene...which of course with the myriad languages we deal with isn't hard. What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene. I guess I'm just not dirty-minded enough.

Like Turdring?

[ararax2]

Honestly, the only times this desire comes upon me is when some dirty-minded individual twists a name I generate into something obscene...which of course with the myriad languages we deal with isn't hard. What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene. I guess I'm just not dirty-minded enough.

Bilbo Baggins is one of the most humorous names I've seem. Not to mention proudfeet! And Brandybuck!

[OldMadeOfLions]

What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene. I guess I'm just not dirty-minded enough.

That was a very difficult one to explain to a packed house during that content review.

No, I'm not telling you guys what it was.

MoL

[Berephon]

So does that man we will meet them one day?

If so, not any time soon. We have a lot of things for our own use that may never see the light of day. And of course, the Blue Wizards are off in the East, and we are about as far from that as we can be.

Like Turdring?

That is a good example. And no, I'm not changing it.

That was a very difficult one to explain to a packed house during that content review.

No, I'm not telling you guys what it was

MoL

It was still a perfectly good name totally ruined.

and no, I'm not telling y'all what it was either.

[varyar]

If so, not any time soon. We have a lot of things for our own use that may never see the light of day. And of course, the Blue Wizards are off in the East, and we are about as far from that as we can be.

True. A man can dream and hope, at least!

And there is a bit of wiggle room in terms of the numbers of Wizards (per the Istari essay in Unfinished Tales that says the five Wizards we know and love were just the chiefs of those sent).

It was still a perfectly good name totally ruined.

and no, I'm not telling y'all what it was either.

Aww. You folks are hideous teases.

[TheOneRinger]

Aww. You folks are hideous teases.

Exactly. Why did you have to post about that? Now everyone's just going to be madly curious, and my whole day will suffer, I'll never get anything done.

EDIT: You know, I always wondered why people made such a big stink over Turdring, when Turdram (I think that was the name) was one of the Rift weapons and it's even more obvious.

[GEARS1980]

Honestly, the only times this desire comes upon me is when some dirty-minded individual twists a name I generate into something obscene...which of course with the myriad languages we deal with isn't hard. What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene. I guess I'm just not dirty-minded enough.

I had a toon, long ago, that I spent hours cyphering out a great lore name for. I loved her. I had leveled to around twenty when someone in my kin noted that taking the first and last part of my name produced something... that I sadly admit... was both innanely humorous and a terrible pity for me. Before I knew what was happening it had become my nickname in the kin. It broke my heart. I had worked for so long to come up with that name. Now... everywhere I went I noticed all the young hobbits snickering at me behind my back. I won't elaborate on what the name was. I deleted the character, thus leaving the kin, and started over.

When the Turdseries of weapons hit the market. Somewhere deep down a little anger swelled up and I remembered that poor fallen lore-toon. She was a good toon! There was nothing wrong with her! So I took up the Turdram moniker and WEAR IT PROUDLY! I wear it in remembrance for all the failed attempts at lore approprate names that went so horribly wrong in the hands of grinning kinmates. Darn you all, darn you all to heck!

It even happend to the Master, to Tolkien himself. For your approval I submit Banazir Galbasi and "Trotter". I bow to the memory of the Master who watches us from the West and will say no more.

But, I always RP myself as a bit of court jester. It is important that the great and mighty always remember that their best planned machinations can fail utterly. Someone must ride in the chariot behind Caesar "thou art mortal, thou art mortal!" Thus, I remain Turdram.

I admit I had trouble with the etymology of it. I can only interpret Tur as Mastery or Domination and Ram meaning wall or barrier, so the two together on a mace would imply a mace meant for destroying those barriers. I'd love to know if I got my own adopted moniker wrong ;P

This one goes out to all the mocked lore-toons out there. You bear not the stings and arrows of humiliation in vane and alone.

[abrahamL]

It was still a perfectly good name totally ruined.

and no, I'm not telling y'all what it was either.

You guys are a bunch of Turdrings for all the terrible teases you do...

[auximenes]

What becomes hard is generating names that no one finds humorous or obscene.

Turdram and Turdring approve.

[JonBongJovi13]

And there is a bit of wiggle room in terms of the numbers of Wizards (per the Istari essay in Unfinished Tales that says the five Wizards we know and love were just the chiefs of those sent).

Re-read the LotR text where Gandalf strips Saruman of his power, Gandalf tells us exactly how many wizards there are in middle-earth, no wiggle room there.

[Berephon]

Re-read the LotR text where Gandalf strips Saruman of his power, Gandalf tells us exactly how many wizards there are in middle-earth, no wiggle room there.

Indeed.

/extrachars

[Eliel]

It even happend to the Master, to Tolkien himself. For your approval I submit Banazir Galbasi and "Trotter". I bow to the memory of the Master who watches us from the West and will say no more.

Isn't there a Groin the dwarf somewhere in the Thorin family tree? Yeah, it happened to Tolkien himself.

[varyar]

Re-read the LotR text where Gandalf strips Saruman of his power, Gandalf tells us exactly how many wizards there are in middle-earth, no wiggle room there.

... Um... er...

Away with your inconvenient facts!

(Maybe the lesser wizards didn't have rods! Eh? Eh? ... Oh, very well, you guys win this time...)

[Mad_Bombardier]

(Maybe the lesser wizards didn't have rods! Eh? Eh? ... Oh, very well, you guys win this time...)

Female Wizards? Lore-breaker!

[Comstrike]

Unfortunately, because those names do not appear in LotR, only in extant texts which we don't have the license for, we can't use them. We have, however, come up with appropriate names.

Likewise, is it not a pretty basic part of the LOTR that almost every major character seems to have different names?

[TrekkerEF]

Likewise, is it not a pretty basic part of the LOTR that almost every major character seems to have different names?

For Elves, maybe, but aren't there like seven or eight Durins to have ruled over the Dwarves and at least two Bards among Men?

[Comstrike]

For Elves, maybe, but aren't there like seven or eight Durins to have ruled over the Dwarves and at least two Bards among Men?

Strider, Aragorn, Elessar/Elfstone, plus other names given him as he worked for the Steward of Gondor or King of Rohan.

[Vond]

Gandalf, Olórin, Mithrandir, Incánus, Tharkûn...