Lvl 65 third agers vs 60 first agers

[burgleburgleburgle]

Level 65 > Level 60.

The differences in the resist ratings are relatively tiny.

The big difference is that you can get a vastly improved Tactical Healing Rating by using a 65, both because of the inherent bonus, and because you can slot the +Tactical Healing crafted relic.

All considered, this adds up to somewhere between 100 and 200 more power transferred per Share the Power. This is significant, and it's why I use a 65 book, and a 65 staff.

[burgleburgleburgle]

Some random data. My book has +18 tactical healing rating, and the +healing gem in it.

With the book equipped, I pay 734 power to transfer 820.3-1171.8 power.
Without the book equipped, I pay 734 power to transfer 602.9-861.2

In a boss fight, in a raid, I transfer power about 5x a minute, let's say (reasonable guess?). I get about 250 extra power every transfer. In a 10 minute boss fight, that's a difference of 12,500 power.

So, yeah. Go get a 3rd age, level 65 book.

[brasswire12]

In a boss fight, in a raid, I transfer power about 5x a minute, let's say (reasonable guess?).

Not very reasonable no. Share the Power has a 16s channel time and 1min cooldown. Each full channel let's you share about 4-5 times (depending on other factors). So even if it was the only thing you were doing you couldn't come close to that rate of power sharing. Something like 3.5 shares per minute would be more reasonable, and that's still only if you're using drain power religiously every time it's up.

Also I assume you're comparing a 3rd age 65 Book vs no book equipped (since you didn't state you were using a different book, that's my assumption). So a 1st age 60 Book would be a much smaller difference.

[moebius92]

Not very reasonable no. Share the Power has a 16s channel time and 1min cooldown. Each full channel let's you share about 4-5 times (depending on other factors). So even if it was the only thing you were doing you couldn't come close to that rate of power sharing. Something like 3.5 shares per minute would be more reasonable, and that's still only if you're using drain power religiously every time it's up.

I think that's actually about what I would expect in the more extreme cases (i.e., where I'm pretty much the sole source of extra power). As you do, assume a full bar from a 16 second drain - call it 4kish power. And then one minute's worth of regen, gives me another 1.5k power, for a total 5.5k to play with. Say about 500 - 1000 power for debuffs and other sundry tasks. Leaves me with 4.5k power to distribute to the rest of the raid - at 740 power a pop - that's about 6 shares over 76 seconds - which works out to about 4.7 shares a minute.

Doesn't seem terribly unreasonable.

[burgleburgleburgle]

Should be easy enough for somebody with a first age book to tell me the stats on their power transfer...

(Edit: And yes. Good loremasters use Power of Knowledge religiously, every time it's up.)

Some data (My book just hit 50).

+12 THR: 1070.5
+13 1087.4
+14 1104.2
+15 1121.1
+16 1138.0
+17 1154.9
+18 1171.8

Since 60 first ages go up to +14, feels like you're missing out on about 70 power per transfer, and then the additional amount you get from the gem (Which affects it by 1% - so another 10 power).

So the difference is about 80 power per transfer. Pretty significant.

[moebius92]

Should be easy enough for somebody with a first age book to tell me the stats on their power transfer...

-Cross

Share the power has an Mmax of 13.0 and a Bmax of 18.3. A level 60 first age book should have a tac healing rate of 65, I think, giving share the power a base rate of 604.3 - 863.3.

Applying whatever healing modifiers and share the power modifiers you have... at level 50 (i.e., sans book), share the power has a base max of 668.3, which means your share the power has a +28.9% modifier (+StP on your staff?), which means that with a first ager, you'd have 778.7 - 1112.5.

Ignoring crits, call it an extra 50ish power per share.

[Kaluu]

Share the power has an Mmax of 13.0 and a Bmax of 18.3. A level 60 first age book should have a tac healing rate of 65, I think, giving share the power a base rate of 604.3 - 863.3.

Applying whatever healing modifiers and share the power modifiers you have... at level 50 (i.e., sans book), share the power has a base max of 668.3, which means your share the power has a +28.9% modifier (+StP on your staff?), which means that with a first ager, you'd have 778.7 - 1112.5.

Ignoring crits, call it an extra 50ish power per share.

Lol i have no idea how you got there, but the 50ish number is about what I am seeing too. No idea where some of these other wildlly fluctuating, change by the day numbers are coming from. I do not see them.

I may equip a lvl 65 book for healing rank and a lvl 65 staff with a maxed out Share the Power legacy to get roughlyt a 130-150, little bit more maybe, increase in share the power output. I haven't done the math, just swapped them in and out, so its close enough to get an idea of whether or not it is worth it or not. Still need to make the crafted relic to add about the 380 healing modifier but that will be a very small incresae.

The Lt. fight in BG is the only reason I am considering this at all and I suspect this will not be the last time we see a 0 icpr mechanic, but I hope it is. My kin was in BG last night and had the fell beast down when subsequently both lore-masters and both minstrils ran out of power and all pots were on long cooldowns. Maybe a staff and book maxed for power would have made a difference, maybe not. Imho that is just plain ridiculous.

The difference of 210 in the physical resist rating on the 1st age vs 3rd age books is less than 1% I think, if mobs resistence numbrs work the same as ours. That is a small number but the lower power costs and increased tactical damage buffs on a 1st book make a very nice package.

Perhaps the Lt fight is hardcore enough that we have to have items maxed out for power but I can't believe there is not a way around that that is more reliable than relying on a 150 share the power increase. We think we know what it is. You know, it's funny how you think you know what you are doing and then it all falls apart. The devil is in the details.

[burgleburgleburgle]

Grats on getting the fell-beast down. You'll get it next time. =)

If you've got 2 LMs, you can just pass power back and forth. Each pass generates ~250 power. You can pass...probably once a second? So, between 200 LMs, 500 power per second. This should keep your healers and tanks full of power...

[Yolsaffbridge]

Grats on getting the fell-beast down. You'll get it next time. =)

If you've got 2 LMs, you can just pass power back and forth. Each pass generates ~250 power. You can pass...probably once a second? So, between 200 LMs, 500 power per second. This should keep your healers and tanks full of power...

I know you meant 2 LMs, but I want a raid with 200 LMs!

/hijack

[Kaluu]

I took my base healing at 694-992. Added 10% Share the Power legacy from a staff for 754-1077. The added increase in Tactical Healing from 15 to18 with a lvl 65 3rd age book gave me 798-1141. An added 390 healing rating from one crafted relic got me to 807-1154 where I am now.

As with many aspects of this game, there is no obvious right answer.