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  1. #1
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    Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    I ran some fraps of various configurations, playing with huntsman induction bonus and the Fast Draw trait combined. If we are to assume that the huntsman bonus gets taken off after the Fast Draw bonus, then ISB should have an induction speed of 1.44s, yet displays a tooltip value of 1.5s.

    Here's the results of the fraps...


    • ISB w/ no huntsman bonus and no Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 2.0s
      • Induction = 2.0s (60f @ 30fps)



    • ISB w/ no huntsman bonus but with Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 1.8s
      • Induction = 1.8s (54f @ 30fps)



    • ISB w/ -10% huntsman bonus and no Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 1.8s
      • Induction = 1.833s (55f @ 30fps)



    • ISB w/ -10% huntsman bonus with Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 1.6s
      • Induction = 1.6s (48f @ 30fps)



    • ISB w/ -20% huntsman bonus and no Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 1.6s
      • Induction = 1.6s (48f @ 30fps)



    • ISB w/ -20% huntsman bonus with Fast Draw
      • Tooltip = 1.5s
      • Induction = 1.466s (44f @ 30fps)



    So, besides the 1 extra unexpected frame in the 3rd test (which could be attributed to frame rounding or latency), all of the true induction values match their tooltip with the obvious exception of the -20% huntsman and -0.2s from FD. 1.466s is a lot closer to 1.4s than the tooltip would suggest, but it's still .066s (or 2 frames) longer than expected. I would also have expected 49f (1.633s) for the -10%+FD test, but I only counted 48f however I should note that the 48f fit very loosely into the animation. By that I mean, because of the fact the animation is occurring faster than 30fps, I will often miss the actual start or stop to an animation. My first cue that the induction had started seemed rather late compared to the current position of the accompanying animation, and therefore I feel there could have been at least a 1/2 or 3/4 of a frame not captured. Until I find a tool I can use to count more than 30fps (fraps will collect 60fps, but all my media players only display every second one in that case) I have to assume a +/- 1 fps error of margin on these test.

    So there you have it. /bug at will.
    Last edited by Duredhel; Apr 13 2010 at 07:10 PM.
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  2. #2
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    Re: Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    excellent work
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    Re: Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    + rep to you. Nicely done!
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  4. #4
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    Re: Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    I bugged this last week, but it was a minor derail in that big 'ol fail thread. Probably a great idea to give it it's own thread so people don't miss it in all that nonsense. Nice work Duredhel.

    Bug away people!
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  5. #5
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    Re: Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    I've noticed some hinkiness with these traits myself lately. I don't remember the exact order I tried now (it's been a while), but it seems I tried this order:

    4 Huntsman, without Fast Draw - tooltip will read 1.6
    4 Huntsman, with Fast Draw - tooltip will read 1.5
    (I see you have observed the same thing in your breakdown)

    Anyone else thinking 'WTH?!?' with me? The tooltip for Fast Draw says '-0.2s', yest as part of the 4 Huntsman it is only applying 0.1s?

    To be fair, I haven't tried 5 Huntsman with and without Fast Draw, so can't say what the tooltip would say then...

    Overall, nice parsing, with +rep to you!
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  6. #6
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    Re: Fast Draw Induction Bonus Weirdness

    if fraps fails, we'll have to rely on the retroincabulator.



    I just hope that barescent skor motion isn't required.
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