New Vault

[jackstryker]

I hope the first fix is the vault. One big vault that you have to scroll down is not an improvement.

[logan9a]

I didn't really think that it could be a worse layout than what it was but I was wrong. Could you please give players the option for the 'classic look'? This new layout is the worst idea I've seen since starting a land war in Asia.

[Beloth]

Agreed.
/signed

[Reillan]

I didn't really think that it could be a worse layout than what it was but I was wrong. Could you please give players the option for the 'classic look'? This new layout is the worst idea I've seen since starting a land war in Asia.

Try going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

It's worse.

Anyway, one thing that is terribly important to learn about the vault is the little drop-down menu at the top that lets you do sorting... it's going to be really, really helpful when trying to find certain important things. Yes, I really wish we still had the classic spaces AND this, but those spaces were a bit unwieldy, too.

[logan9a]

I'd be happy if we had an adjustable pull out slider to allow us to change the size of the bank vault.

Also, this new way doesn't allow us to organize items within our bank vault to our liking.

Poor design by people who have different ideas on how they'd like it set up.

I say give the players the option on how they'd like the bank vault layout.

[oldo65]

I absolutely hate this new vault. Sure I can sort by chest, but there is no way to see everything a chest contains without scrolling and no way to organize what is in each chest.

I would love to have an option to use the classic vault. Hopefully someone will come up with a lua script to implement classic vault behaviour.

[CandiceAurora]

This was already discussed in a huge amount of details. At the moment the classic look is not possible to recreate, however the team was looking at creating something similar whereby folks can see everything on their screen and use tabs as well. Relax, it'll come with a bit of patience! The functionality is there, and the features are awesome, just some funky new design UI elements would make it perfect.

[infinitethoon]

I'm not necessarily a fan of how it is right now, but I'm certainly liking the direction it's taking us in. At the moment it needs some adjustments to the UI and an increased ability to see more items at a time. But I think the customization and sorting options have a lot of potential.

[Baresira]

Yes, if you were not in beta and did not have access to the beta forums you have no idea how hard Ransroth and company worked trying to improve the new bank. They know what we want. We just have to give them time.

As mentioned above there is a filter drop down menu. That helps a lot. There is also a search field.

[Adlerson]

If only there had been an avalanche of complaints in both closed and open beta about this new bank..

Oh, wait..

[wilboc]

Agreed, the new vault is horrible.

[infinitethoon]

Already a thread about just a few topic down.

[Thalian39]

Not going to complain about the new vault -- I love it personally.

What I want to ask...I can't seem to buy any more vault space past the 120 max...and neither can my kin-mates...is this a known issue?

Thal

[Fortinobrand]

Yeah, trying to remain positive about the changes, but the vault was very obviously conceptualized by someone who does not play, or at least does not craft. The inability to manage resources with logical groupings is a very significant hindrance. How many TP to get the functional old one back?

[Kreegan]

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really dislike the new vault design...

No, that's not quite right...

I really HATE the new vault design with a passion!

Sorry, Turbine, but that is an AWFUL implementation. Managing items in that new vault design is like trying to find things in my wife's purse: first you have to figure out which dang purse she's using this week, then figure out which pocket she might have stuck it in, then sort through tons of **** in the purse trying to find whatever it is you're looking for.

Awful, awful, awful design!!!

I can live with everything else.

[wilboc]

I was hoping beta got this changed, it's flat out horrible.

[assitude-1]

HATE the new vault!!!!!

[Siha]

The inability to manage resources with logical groupings is a very significant hindrance.

You can assign stuff to chests and then view only one chest - does that help?

[Fieryo]

I have to agree. The new vault is awful.

[Amonceleb]

I'd be happy if I could even SEE the bank right now! The vault NPC in the Shire housing instances are completely not there for the characters on my account. I've tried leaving and re-entering, and even backed all the way out of the LOTRO client and logged back in. No soap. Bugged it.

[Uutta]

Return the old vault PLEASE.

New vault is a click and scroll fest and no matter how much irritating clicking and scrolling we do we still can't see our items in meaningful groupings, eg LIs sorted for level and if to grind for relics, or possibles or level up first; xp runes in ascending order, crafting per tier - eg boiled, unboiled, 3 or more components, other craft made components - I had 2 -3 tiers per bag and could see instantly what I had for each tier; gear sorted by damage and mitigation type, cosmetics by outfit. 10 categories can never replicate this as my vault was organized by row into 30 or more categories.

We have also lost the ability to access shared storage from the vault - yet more clicking. Even the chest selection is a drop down menu instead of 2 rows of buttons as our chests were.

Each char will require a list as to what is in each of the 10 chests given it will vary per character.

I'm not a programmer, but seems like identifying a player's item with vault location 1-120 is no more db load than identifying it as chest 1-10. Perhaps loading 30 items when we open the vault is an issue, but against that is the additional database coding and ghastly number of additional clicks each player will be performing.

Why do it??? Imagine someone took your filing cabinet and arranged all your papers alphabetically and said you had to accomodate them into 10 lumps with search features like events held on Sept 22 (the equivalent of daggers and swords imo - too specific to be of use given a chest could be used for weapons). The only way to locate what you need is by making extensive handwritten lists.

Why did you do this to us???

[CaptainBoots]

The FILTERS are there for a reason. Use them and your life will get a LOT simpler. I disliked the new design at first until I had to go hunting for some things in various character vaults in Beta. Suddenly I could get an answer with just a glance without wondering if I'd ever accidentally stashed something in a different chest and forgotten.

Those filters are the key, seriously. Obviously you're free to continue in whatever feelings you care to, but give the filters a go at least.

[logan9a]

The FILTERS are there for a reason. Use them and your life will get a LOT simpler. I disliked the new design at first until I had to go hunting for some things in various character vaults in Beta. Suddenly I could get an answer with just a glance without wondering if I'd ever accidentally stashed something in a different chest and forgotten.

Those filters are the key, seriously. Obviously you're free to continue in whatever feelings you care to, but give the filters a go at least.

Did - hate the new vault anyway, filters or no.

I want to organize things as I like it - not as they wish.

[Nethedrith]

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really dislike the new vault design...

No, that's not quite right...

I really HATE the new vault design with a passion!

Sorry, Turbine, but that is an AWFUL implementation. Managing items in that new vault design is like trying to find things in my wife's purse: first you have to figure out which dang purse she's using this week, then figure out which pocket she might have stuck it in, then sort through tons of **** in the purse trying to find whatever it is you're looking for.

Awful, awful, awful design!!!

I can live with everything else.

Y'know, I don't enjoy complaining, and this is my first ever post, but I'm going to have to add my +1 with that quote ^

It really irked me that much.

Looking forward to the patch that will fix it though. *grin* Hopefully sooner than later!

[Nishino]

I like the new vault. Once you get used to the dropdowns, you still have items separated into chests but they can be as large as you want now. All crafting mats in one chest is great.

I'd like an option for a list view rather than the current thumbnail view though, to show more items at once without scrolling.