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  1. #1
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    LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    Friends, many have heard about Loremaster with no pet. What would a player choose the Loremaster class and play without PETl? ***? Why don't get RUNE KEEPER? it honestly never understand ¬¬' ....
    LOREMASTER with no PET = FAIL !!! ¬¬

  2. #2
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    There are a lot of situations in which a pet is a severe hazard.
    Pets may accidentally agro mobs.
    Pets may kill mobs that you need to not kill yet.
    Pets may attack mobs that are in a state that heals them when they are attacked.
    Pets may release mezzed mobs.

    Although no loremaster would ignore the use of pets in situations they are appropriate for, there are many time that using no pet at all is the right choice.

  3. #3
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    There are definitely 3 instances that come to mind on when I don't have a pet summoned:

    1) The Moors - Creeps know that if they get a pet aggro'ed on them they can run into NPCs in the keeps and once the NPC kills the pet, it will now aggro on the LM. They love to see huge trolls charge out of Lug or TA after an unsuspecting LM.

    2) BG - The current raid has a few instances where your pet may get blue eyeballs and drop puddles on your party. This is rare but no one wants to be responsible for having their pet get an eyeball that leads to a wipe. Now there are definite exceptions to this. In the Twins fight, many LMs will park their Raven next to Cargaraf because it provides shadow mitigation to the hunter that is range tanking the Shadow Boss. During the LT fight, if your pet got the purple eye, they wouldn't do damage to the rest of the party. That might have changed in one of the latest patches and pets may no longer be eligible to get the purple eye. They never get the yellow eye so you don't have to worry about the Fell-beast turning and chasing your pet.

    3) There are some mob pulls where you want to body pull a mob (from their awareness) at the farthest range of their perception but don't want to pull his buddies that are a few feet away. If your bird is set to attack the mobs you target, they will sometimes cause you problems where you pull more mobs then you originally intended.

    For 95% of small fellowship and soloing, not having your pet summoned severly gimps your ability to do damage and self-heal yourself from flanks.
    Last edited by Incanus-the-red; Dec 21 2010 at 02:29 PM.
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  4. #4
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    Quote Originally Posted by Alazkan View Post
    There are a lot of situations in which a pet is a severe hazard.
    Pets may accidentally agro mobs.
    Pets may kill mobs that you need to not kill yet.
    Pets may attack mobs that are in a state that heals them when they are attacked.
    Pets may release mezzed mobs.

    Although no loremaster would ignore the use of pets in situations they are appropriate for, there are many time that using no pet at all is the right choice.
    Yes, understand you preoccupation... But What I meant is that many players never use the pet. PLay without PET, COLD DPS players somethings like that ... PET may accidentally ogro mobs yes, and all of u say is true. But if u know how and have experience its dont happen frequently. For me my PET is usefull. without him i think i couln't UP ..

  5. #5
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    Quote Originally Posted by Incanus-the-red View Post
    There are definitely 3 instances that come to mind on when I don't have a pet summoned:

    1) The Moors - Creeps know that if they get a pet aggro'ed on them they can run into NPCs in the keeps and once the NPC kills the pet, it will now aggro on the LM. They love to see huge trolls charge out of Lug or TA after an unsuspecting LM.

    2) BG - The current raid has a few instances where your pet may get blue eyeballs and drop puddles on your party. This is rare but no one wants to be responsible for having their pet get an eyeball that leads to a wipe. Now there are definite exceptions to this. In the Twins fight, many LMs will park their Raven next to Cargaraf because it provides shadow mitigation to the hunter that is range tanking the Shadow Boss. During the LT fight, if your pet got the purple eye, they wouldn't do damage to the rest of the party. That might have changed in one of the latest patches and pets may no longer be eligible to get the purple eye. They never get the yellow eye so you don't have to worry about the Fell-beast turning and chasing your pet.

    3) There are some mob pulls where you want to body pull a mob (from their awareness) at the farthest range of their perception but don't want to pull his buddies that are a few feet away. If your bird is set to attack the mobs you target, they will sometimes cause you problems where you pull more mobs then you originally intended.

    For 95% of small fellowship and soloing, not having your pet summoned severly gimps your ability to do damage and self-heal yourself from flanks.
    ...For 95% of small fellowship and soloing, not having your pet summoned severly gimps your ability to do damage and self-heal yourself from flanks. 100%...

  6. #6
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    Pets may accidentally agro mobs.
    Not if you use the lynx. Or control your pet and use Return to Master to make it stay on the exact same spot as you.

    Pets may kill mobs that you need to not kill yet.
    Pets may attack mobs that are in a state that heals them when they are attacked.
    Put your pet on passive. Order it to "follow" and it will stop attacking.

    Pets may release mezzed mobs.
    They won't on their own, thy stop attacking if the target has been mezzed. As for AoE (Sabercat), order it to stop attacking if you are concerned about breaking CC.

    1) The Moors
    Always put your pet on passive and Creeps can't aggro it.
    If you order it to attack and the Creep runs, call it back.

    2) BG
    In the Twins fight, Raven gives a huge shadow mitigation buff, the strongest in the game AFAIK. The pet gets eyes, but is unaffected by puddles. Simply put it on a specific location in passive mode (between the two bookshelves) and it won't do any harm.

    In the LT fight, pets don't get eyes of any kind.

    3) There are some mob pulls where you want to body pull a mob (from their awareness) at the farthest range of their perception but don't want to pull his buddies that are a few feet away. If your bird is set to attack the mobs you target, they will sometimes cause you problems where you pull more mobs then you originally intended.
    Put your pet on passive mode..

    Playing a LM means controlling the pet. If it is crucial that the pet won't do anything by its own, passive mode and order it to attack, follow and stay as needed. By the way, you can put the pet skills on your quickbar.

  7. #7
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    Re: LoreMaster without PET ... ¬¬'

    Quote Originally Posted by grinko.at View Post
    Not if you use the lynx. Or control your pet and use Return to Master to make it stay on the exact same spot as you.


    Put your pet on passive. Order it to "follow" and it will stop attacking.


    They won't on their own, thy stop attacking if the target has been mezzed. As for AoE (Sabercat), order it to stop attacking if you are concerned about breaking CC.


    Always put your pet on passive and Creeps can't aggro it.
    If you order it to attack and the Creep runs, call it back.


    In the Twins fight, Raven gives a huge shadow mitigation buff, the strongest in the game AFAIK. The pet gets eyes, but is unaffected by puddles. Simply put it on a specific location in passive mode (between the two bookshelves) and it won't do any harm.

    In the LT fight, pets don't get eyes of any kind.


    Put your pet on passive mode..

    Playing a LM means controlling the pet. If it is crucial that the pet won't do anything by its own, passive mode and order it to attack, follow and stay as needed. By the way, you can put the pet skills on your quickbar.
    exactly. Totally agree. I think people who play with LOREMASTER and dont use PETs , is because dont know how to use them. LOREMASTER was BORN to play with PET its the soul of LOREMASTER..

 

 

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