Which class is most "ezmode"?

[head0nfire]

Please state which class you think is the most "ezmode" both one creep class and one freep class.

[MrGrunty]

Creep: Spider or BA.
Freep: Not sure. My highest is a level 18 Burglar.

[Soltaris]

Greetings, head0nfire

Your question is difficult to answer, because every class has something they can do easier than other classes. For example, Warden is one of the easiest classes when it comes to being able to solo multiple mobs, and even soloing really difficult named mobs. Yet the warden is also one of the hardest classes to learn due to their complex gambit combos. Even once you learn the gambits, wardens are also one of the most difficult classes to master do to their complex skill chaining.

Some classes such as the burglar can complete some quests far easier by sneaking into places. Some classes can harvest resource nodes easier by mezzing nearby mobs. Some classes are faster to level up. Etc.

More specific to creeps and PVP, are you looking for something with fewer keypresses, something with more OMG buttons to get out of bad situations, something with more 1 vs 1 ability?

It would help us if you can describe what you wish to accomplish. Which aspect of the game you want to be easy?

[johnsonmon]

There are no ''ezmode'' classes, its all about how the class is played.



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[NeoPromethious]

My criteria would be the ability to get reknown/infamy, grouping and soloability. With those 3 in mind I have the following suggestions after seeing a ton of 1 vs 1s and been pvmping since SoA.

Freep ezmode is the runekeeper. They hit hard, do tactical damage, can dps on the run, can heal in groups, can rez, can prevent wounds and are one of the top 2 freep classes in 1 vs 1s. I've seen runekeepers on my server just basically mow down rank 12 creeps with kiting, dps and mezes.

Creep ezmode is the reaver. There are tons of them out there, they own most freep classes at high ranks in 1 vs 1s, deal fire damage, have a damage reflection and charge cc immunity. A rank 12 reaver over 90% of the time wins aginst all freep classes except for the runekeeper and warden from my experiences. Pre rank 12 you are about equal to guardians.There are a ton of these being rolled everyday, about half my servers active creep population looks to be these or spiders. I say spiders come in a close 2nd, and wargs a close 3rd.

[Turril]

Building off of Badbear's post, I completely agree about the RK on freepside.

On creepside, however, I would put wargs above reavers. But only slightly. The simple matter of being in stealth and being able to pick the fights you want to engage in, allow you to more easily choose how you want to gain your points. Also with their sprint being able to be used in combat, they can negate most kiting done by classes such as LM's, Minnies, and RK's. Silence is more valuable than disarm against freeps, both for the classes the skill targets as well as the duration. Reaver dps is greater, but the utility of the warg is what makes it, imo, the greater ezmode class of the 2.

[Slinadyn]

It would really depend on your definition of ezmode. I would assume you mean easy to play and easy to win. For example you don't HAVE to die to get kills, you can 1v1, you can hit very few keys and you can suck and still win

I would say freep side RK is the ezmode king. Cannot always get those points without death but honestly you need no skill to 1v1 or get a ton of points.
in the likes of points or doing your job without any skill hnt would be on top. If you wanna talk about ez 1v1 warden would be at the top. Overall def rk tho...

On creep side I would say the easiest to do something on that everyone rolls is a tie between a lot. I think overall the creep classes lack amounts of skills but at the same time it is easy to tell who sucks and doesn't. On freep side people might think someone is great but in reality all they do is crit (like a lot of rk's).

Reaver has few skills and can do little dps. But to get points you die a lot in most situations. Wargs you have more skills and I think its obvious when you have no skill and play a warg. I think its still fairly easy to win or get points, but you look like an idiot. Same exact thing with BA tho all you need to do is fire dot. WL and defiler are fairly easy but once again easy to tell a fail. Overall I would say BA is easiest....

Overall from both sides RK is the king! not to say there aren't skilled rk's!

[thisisanewname]

honestly i don't think there really is a ez mode class freep or creep.(and i play them all)
IF there was a true ez mode class then wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE who plays that class would be good? While some classes have some better toys to play with in the hands of the right player even the "gimped" classes can appear op while at the same time take a class that people assume is an ezmode class and put in the hands of the wrong player and it can look very gimped.

So basically it comes down to this ALL class are ez mode in the right players hands.

[Slinadyn]

honestly i don't think there really is a ez mode class freep or creep.(and i play them all)
IF there was a true ez mode class then wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE who plays that class would be good? While some classes have some better toys to play with in the hands of the right player even the "gimped" classes can appear op while at the same time take a class that people assume is an ezmode class and put in the hands of the wrong player and it can look very gimped.

So basically it comes down to this ALL class are ez mode in the right players hands.

if it has to be in the right hands then its not that easy then!

[Abomnt]

RK. You hit three buttons, some movement. Hunter. You stand in one spot and hit buttons.

Blackarrow. You stand in one spot and hit buttons.

Low effort, high reward, small risk. In contrast,... After a few hours of reaver,, i am ready for a nap, but man it can be fun to get in peoples faces.

[head0nfire]

Greetings, head0nfire

Your question is difficult to answer, because every class has something they can do easier than other classes. For example, Warden is one of the easiest classes when it comes to being able to solo multiple mobs, and even soloing really difficult named mobs. Yet the warden is also one of the hardest classes to learn due to their complex gambit combos. Even once you learn the gambits, wardens are also one of the most difficult classes to master do to their complex skill chaining.

Some classes such as the burglar can complete some quests far easier by sneaking into places. Some classes can harvest resource nodes easier by mezzing nearby mobs. Some classes are faster to level up. Etc.

More specific to creeps and PVP, are you looking for something with fewer keypresses, something with more OMG buttons to get out of bad situations, something with more 1 vs 1 ability?

It would help us if you can describe what you wish to accomplish. Which aspect of the game you want to be easy?

+rep to you sir. This is the best answer to the question, IMO anyways.

And to answer your question(s) I wasn't asking for myself. I was just curious as to which direction a thread like this would end up going.

[klover307]

i think that you really would need to define ezmode as solo or in a group.

rks and reavers are the most ezmode for 1v1s butt

rks however have one/2 wargs and they can hardly do anything. reavers can still do a lot..

wargs solo can be a tough challenge, but as soon as you add one or two or four more they become the MOST ezmode.

i honestly think that the game has too much variability in most classes except spiders and wls (poison web and kite / hardly any dps but nearly impossible to kill solo)

but if i had to choose.. i would say the hunter and BA. just because its so much easier to fight out there as a pewpew class.

[Slinadyn]

i think that you really would need to define ezmode as solo or in a group.

rks and reavers are the most ezmode for 1v1s butt

rks however have one/2 wargs and they can hardly do anything. reavers can still do a lot..

wargs solo can be a tough challenge, but as soon as you add one or two or four more they become the MOST ezmode.

i honestly think that the game has too much variability in most classes except spiders and wls (poison web and kite / hardly any dps but nearly impossible to kill solo)

but if i had to choose.. i would say the hunter and BA. just because its so much easier to fight out there as a pewpew class.

Here is my thing bout reaver

Its fairly easy to play but you can be easy kited or crippled in most situations. The best thing reaver has going is charge...and even with that sometimes its difficult in situations with lots of people. With smaller numbers though and more of an open fight reaver is the ez of ez mode.

[BLoNdiE]

This game is pretty easymode in and of itself. Some things are simpler than others, sure, but not enough to really call them out.

[nolins12]

The closest thing to easymode creepside is a reaver, the mix of high damage, high morale, high mitigations, and blood of fire makes them pretty OP

Freepside is definitely RK, takes barely any skill to 1v1 the best of creeps.

[olagaton3434]

If you're getting away with having 1v1's, then your opponents are going easy on you, or don't know how to PvP and break up 1v1's. We are at war....or so we thought..

[thisisanewname]

i honestly think that the game has too much variability in most classes except spiders and wls (poison web and kite / hardly any dps but nearly impossible to kill solo)

actually spider probably has the most variability of any class creepside . a single resist at the wrong time of a key skill = dead spider. in allot of ways its sorta like a rk since luck is a key factor( a big dev crit for a rk= dead creep a unlucky resist or series of resists for a spider =dead spider).

theres allot more to playing a spider then poison-wte-kite especially since spiders can only slow u in melee range 15secs/ every min vs lm's,hunters,rks which can spam slow u from range

[LC25]

reavers are too easily kited to be labeled OP or EZ mode, although they do well in 1v1s if the opponent is willing to stay and fight and are great with small group battles
freepside rks are minis are for sure EZ mode
rks can just spam ceaseless argument until attunement builds up then blow everything up
a well geared mini can crit nearly every hit making them very difficult to take out 1v1, along with having a couple save me buttons which the reaver has none

[aad0italian]

which the reaver has none

as if they need it.

[esdumby]

Classes in themselves arnt ezmode. A class vs a class is ezmode though

Minstrel vs Reaver. Minstrel wins every time no matter what rank the reaver is just because they can kite them literally forever with echoes of battle. Or they can simply kite/dps them with anthem of wizards and really the reaver has no chance. (the rank doesnt matter, i fight rank 13s and rank 8, they all die the same way)Thats just an example i can give because im a minstrel. Im sure reavers can tear up other classes but really they dont stand any chance vs a minstrel or maybe an rk. (the minstrel is in warspeech is a given. We can outheal a reaver's dps but if a reaver finds a minstrel out of warspeech, no one wins unless the reaver doesnt have fear pots.)

There are classes that beat reavers though, i killed 2 rank 9 reavers on my guard (using the 5 minute cds). Ive beaten reavers on my champ pretty easily, rank 10s. Same thing for burg. Hunter can kite unless they keep potting their slows. This game does revolve around crits though. Its no secret that a warg can get a good 3k+damage in 5 seconds if they crit. (cant pot a knockdown and they have a high% to get a crit on their pounce from stealth) Burgs are the same way, if you pot their mez the stun will last 5 seconds and they can get a ****load of damage in that 5 seconds.

On the flipside, on my rank 3 reaver i beat a couple burgs and hunters. Even got a minstrel down that didnt kite me. At rank 3, dont have much skills and cant chain them together like the high ranks but im still taking down rank 9 rank 8 freeps. Now rank doesnt mean they have alot of new skills but it does mean they spent some time in the moors.

What defines ezmode? really it has aspects of the player, it has aspects of the crits that each side receives and which class are matched up against each other.

Also this thread is mostly about 1vs1ing but as a previous poster said. A hunter or Ba can sit there in a raid and just dps without moving. An rk can do the same and rack in points. Healers do the same thing. What is ezmoding? If you define ezmoding as standing there and shooting your bow. You can say ezmoding is charging in and chaining 3 skills together and running back to the healers. Or getting bubble and continually dpsing. Its all ezmode in the end.

[olagaton3434]

Minstrel vs Reaver. Minstrel wins every time no matter what rank the reaver is just because they can kite them literally forever with echoes of battle.

You really must not have fought any great OR smart reavers. Seriously, the reaver should be using line of sight objects to prevent the minstrel from attacking from range, and if the minstrel is simply going to land Echos of Battle and sit around letting it go through the 9k morale of a reaver, the Reaver might as well just log off instead of waiting around.

Part of being a great player is knowing when it's a pointless fight, and when it's worth giving it a try.

[klover307]

beaten reavers on my champ pretty easily,

i want to fight the reavers on your server! lol ;D champs kinda have a downside and its hard to be consistent without blowing almost all your cooldowns or having VERY advanced tactics aoe kiting and such and being creative. ive literally had a brutal clobber combo plus the auto attack (five attacks total) get bpe'd by a r4 reaver... thats just sad lol and thats not even talking about their near 40% westernese mits and such.

as for 1v1ing with my burg.. i found myself hitting with my full hele set max crit rating SS for 900 damage with the QK capstone and almost maxed damage from stealth/ positional damage legs. i told myself okay ill just dance with him a little with dust in his face in TaG and get some crit chains out. by the end of at least 5 crit chains the 9k reaver was down to about 7k... so i said okay ill hip RaA re trip loc/aim and get another ss out and while still in TaG he turned around and dev striked me for my remaining 2k health. i got him to about 5k health after the last SS and a crit chain or two and came no where close to killing him even after using 2 perfect SS's on him WHILE i was in TaG for one lol. i am by no means trying to QQ about reavers bpe/mits, i dont think i burg should be able to go toe to toe with a reaver honestly, but seriously blowing that much on him hipsing offensively and everything just to get him hardly to half health is just stupid.

reavers do take the majority of the deaths and probably feed out more reknown that every other class combined, but unless its a mini, rk /some lms the reaver should almost always have the advantage solo. anything that needs to get close has it rough with a reaverminus some exceptions and tactics some can employ. (guards can usually compete pretty close, and wardens im not too sure about)

[EATENG300]

(guards can usually compete pretty close, and wardens im not too sure about)

Shield (healing) wardens have a field day with reavers, and pretty much every other class. Spear (DPS) wardens not so much unless they kite with javs.

[Rconsole]

Classes in themselves arnt ezmode.

True say.

Ezmode is a playstyle, not a class.

Just like Overpowered is a Verb.

[mariustko1]

I only play a few classes, but I will break down which ones I think is the most easy-mode out of them, using a 1v1 standard

Hunter- easy to win on with the right legacies, you should beat most creep classes with very high consistency. With fear pots, and a crit or two you can beat any defiler you run across, but almost the only class it's not a high probability if you're in practice. Not entirely EZ-mode, but it can be with some practice.

Champ- more iffy as far as straight fervour goes, using no CD's you should be able to get most wargs, but reavers will be more difficult, and will require stance-dancing. Also remember to use bracing often, then you can win. Other 4 classes are lolz vs. a good champ. Not going to define this as ez-mode per-se.

Burg- if you play it right, and don't lag out... you don't lose. I would define this as most EZ-mode of the 3 classes I play on freepside.

just my opinion on the situation

-M



PS: it's more the player than the class.