If anything was proved today all you smegg haters are dead wrong about him

[Macgregor1821]

LOL

WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TODAY in in Vilya moors? AT THIS MOMENT?

smegg is out along with how many creeps and how many freeps are there? :/

[SalloeRamaros]

let me state this from my minstrel: Flipper!....


Next: I seen three against me! How insane is that.

I do agree that freeps are out of control as well, taking out the useless for points.. Remember the raid vs dushuak. Insane! Total a moment moment. I assume I'm awesome because of it... the moors is not fair of course, if those people are setting that example then we assume they are the same so forth that we do it as well. I tried talking to the freeps about the constant visitation on me, totally ignored. I'm not going to call out yet. But shake your head up, I will try to finish my quest anyways, I'm not going to quit!..

The same cries are pulling out from both sides, leave the helpless freeps alone and the greenies. Figure out this guys. I wasn't born yet for these cries.

You cannot stop a guy who thinks he's all that just because he's killing a good warden's creep. Pure glory thoughts going through my death or someones :0.. Oh wells,

[Macgregor1821]

let me state this from my minstrel: Flipper!....


Next: I seen three against me! How insane is that.

I do agree that freeps are out of control as well, taking out the useless for points.. Remember the raid vs dushuak. Insane! Total a moment moment. I assume I'm awesome because of it... the moors is not fair of course, if those people are setting that example then we assume they are the same so forth that we do it as well. I tried talking to the freeps about the constant visitation on me, totally ignored. I'm not going to call out yet. But shake your head up, I will try to finish my quest anyways, I'm not going to quit!..

The same cries are pulling out from both sides, leave the helpless freeps alone and the greenies. Figure out this guys. I wasn't born yet for these cries.

Ah yes I was witness to said incident. I was guilty to using a quick disable after debating, hmm they're going to blow that guy up and me going, I've let so many greenies off the hook then tagging you rationalizing, well they're taking him down anyway not matter what I do.

[UndisputedChamp]

Question to freeps: is Pibb the same joke to you that he is to us?

[SalloeRamaros]

People going to give an F to this, those people who consider themselves elites. What I said in OOC today.....No way of working at this. Try vent.

[timmyloo22546]

how many creeps and how many freeps are there? :/

at one point there was 25 freeps + the ranger.

[SalloeRamaros]

Pibb, you make me jealous with that skin :0.

[Macgregor1821]

[UndisputedChamp]

Hating on America now...

God you are just FULL of brilliant moves

[UndisputedChamp]

and 11:30 really doesn't constitute as "almost" midnight

[Intharth]

@ Halth, we tried TR, that was a no go, we decided to head through isen to try ninja lugz, after finding a few rank 3-6s in isen, we decided we had been called out, turn tailed and took isen. Once the craid wiped us we decided we'll take a more LoS fight and play around with an OP, having said that, we took Aradors End OP.

-btw we were only trying for a rez-

On the way over -just leaving gv- sure enough creeps reflipped isen. So we took a long way to the OP, no sign of creeps the whole journey, and we flipped the OP, sat, and waited. during the wait our numbers upped to full raid as FbF members joined Wakes original raid.

fter around 5-10 minutes of no show, we mapped GV and headed to TR, as stated, what we hoped for was less than what happened.. i actually apologised to someone in my kin who had an unfortunate greenie warg at TR at the time getting roflpwned by 24. We cleared out the bottom, sat, and waited, killed those creeps who tried to enter, waited for the bottom floor to start respawning before heading upstairs and flipping... went to TA, found the same creeps, took it, most left after that.

@Smegg: Unlike your self acclaimed ''dps'' -roflheal- defiler, idc about points, im out to have fun, and i take pleasure in CJing a generally bad and horribly egotistical player. ''Hi my name is smegg, and im only complaining if im not zerging the map and actually dieing''

I don't care, about the 6 other kills i could have got, honestly, i wouldn't waste my time if i did, calling me a tool cuz im doing what i want instead of what you would think i should do, is really pathetic. rofl. besides, im happy cjing you, makes it so much more worthwhile when u call in wargs 30 seconds later just to get points off me <3

[UndisputedChamp]

How does anybody take this person seriously? I can't even be offended by somebody who can't spell their own country correctly. I swear Turbine must get a tax break from having him play....like donating to the needy.

I chuckled..

[Intharth]

If rash laughed, your in the cool kids club!

[Macgregor1821]

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Smegg in tonights r vs r

:P

[The_Notorious_Z]

I eat massive amounts of spaghetti

[karasu]

I will solidify Soulthresher's point that we of UnforgivenII do not hate Smegg, we just aren't big fans or have much respect for him as a tactician or player. A lot of the old school creeps disagree with Smegg because we can't relate to his mentality of bailing on fights and letting freeps roll the map while on a Grams sabbatical. I have been creeping since SOA and always went down fighting and never let the freeps take a keep without a good fight, that's just good and entertaining pvp. This map to Grams and withdraw your raid while your fellow creeps break their backs trying to put forth enough effort to maintain a equal fight and hold ground is beyond my comprehension. I remember coming back last month for the first time since Dec. 09 and the first question after hearing the word alot in OOC was &&& IS A SMEGG? LOL good times. Anyways, I believe credit needs to be given for the awesome groups vilya does have, Swordmonkey, Splay and the Budz crew, and Rash and Munja and the Sabo crew, not to forget the awesome defiler Guenk. Take notes from her Smegg she plays your class as its intended, as a HEALER, wake up from your dps identity crisis. Just my two cents, keep on fighting and to all my freep rivals see you out there!

-Demon

[timmyloo22546]

I like where this is going.

[Intharth]

-getting the popcorn-

This is what i note about Smegg raids:

Oh no, there winning a fight, lets use the routine i implement every time we raid up, lets flank them for the millienth time!

Ah dam, they beat our flank, no matter, here comes the Gold taggers to finish up the work, dam they died to!

Lets reflank! this time there a bit further over-extended! Yes! We killed enough to make em retreat!

-at this point freeps will go tr-

Oh look! solo's all over Ta/ec! lets farm em and take TA after 5 mins of pillagin freeps who come down solo!

Sweet, they come back to EC, lets just run in and out for 10 mins see what happens, darn wheres that raid.

-Smegg finally hits TR hotspot when raid is coming down to meet him-

Oh no i died! DAM, Red rooster break!

That's so unfair, theyve got like, equal numbers to us, they hide in a keep whilst we look for them, and then probably went full raid so they could kill us, -our raid got prob 1 extra person probably?- I was leading a good raid and then got beaten by the main fraid, dam, time to leave, i guess they can zerg the map, but its ok, when im back they'l be less, so i can pve to my hearts content!

afk for 20-30 mins guys, see if the raid disbands/lessen and we'll come zerg em.

A note, during this 10-15 mins of smegg zerging solos up and down the map, fraid is regrouping discussing things, talking about tactics and what to do, usually when its an all out open field hunt down, smegg tactics are the easiest to work out. We know how he'l set up his groups classes, so we know how to break them down.

Another note, Smegg, don't get upset just cuz u died, Everyon dies, everyone zergs, everyone ganks, everyone gets some points, some more unfair than others, i know thanks to a warg ive been practicing on CM on how to handle myself, im learning, but thankfully the warg has been fighting fairly and no cool downs, its a shame i can't expect the same in the open, i would like to fight any warg 1v1 with no sprint/hips blown, because im practicing to fight that at the moment, and i would like to learn it better. Sadly i know this is not the case, every warg between TR rez and EC will blow cooldowns to get the kill, heck some even brand before the fight with the hunter, just so its an auto ROFL win.

My point is, very few will fight fair, those that do, well thank you, i appreciate you implementing skill into the fight rather than blowing cool-downs on i win buttons. Hunter doesn't really have a cool down to blow, i guess thats why we ask for fair fights, 1 min cds is our limit in a quick 1v1.

Smegg, you go by the theory you are a dps defiler. I go by the theory you dps till u get hit once, then start rofl healing. Maybe its cause you don't heal your raids you die RvR? WL's and greenie defilers might not be able to keep them up, but that r12 defiler healing? might just be a helping hand in winning the fight. I agree that freep>creep healing, but we gotta make the best of it, so instead of dpsing in a raid, actually heal, you never know, even with 1 less than us you might win.

I'd try to even organise a 12v12 on CM just for the purpose of showing what good defiler healing can do to a fraid. However i suppose you would chicken out and we can't exactly time 12 freeps and say GO TO CM AT THIS TIME, just to set it up, so i assume we'll meet open field, and demons right, guenks a much better healer than you and deserves rank 12 more.

[Macgregor1821]

If smegg and company are going to justify running from r v r fights (I've yet to see them open field r v r against equal sized raid and win and rash hasn't since his credit card fraud days) as do whatever it takes to win infamy and deny reknown, then a more effecient option and likely requirement if the #s imbalance continues is to farm 2nd accounts and friends toons. That guarantees victory and a 2.0 rating. Why did people grief that poor RK...:P

Unforgiven believes in fighting, smegg and company believe in farming but true farming requires pretending to 1 vs 1 on cm or some obscure spot on the map.

I guess Tomhan won't be the only one taking smegg breaks at gv soon enough

[Intharth]

FYI, i have SS of smegg healing himself as soon as he gets hit, and SS of him bailing off to get away, whilst healing.

[karasu]

Oh and one more thing, when Smegg and the smegglies rush a keep kill cg and then dont flip the flag &&& is point. Don't &&&&& at me because I flip the flag after I put forth the effort to kill the npcs, hell yeah I'm gonna flip that &&&&. And Intharth you are spot on man!

[Intharth]

dam creeps flipping TR and what not, it must be the most fought over keep these days :/ wtb rez circle D:

[tyrant01]

OMG it finally POPPED. Now for the clean up.

[Hetweith]

As I've seen many times creeps generally come out with 20+ when the freeps only have 12.

Do creeps want an equal raid fight or just to get such a massive number of creeps to roll the entire map?

Do any of the raid leaders check to see how many freeps are actually out when they start recruiting for a raid?

I mean if creeps just want to win by overwhelming force then getting 30 creeps out (as has happened many times) to confront 18 freeps then sure I can understand that but I wouldn't call that an equal fight and I'm sure others wouldn't either (even on freepside). But atleast just say it and be honest about it cause I can respect that,but I can't respect any creep that says "I want an equal RvR fight" then goes and grabs double or even triple the freep numbers that are out and cleans out the moors.

As for the 20 minute breaks that are taken. I don't think you or anyone would begrudge creeps a break from 10+ freeps when creeps may not be able to acquire 3 times numbers to fight them (As has happened plenty of times) or when creeps have 4defilers,2 warleaders, 12 BAs and a warg pack in the raid and can't possibly break through all the healing,bubbles,hots and shieldwalls that are spammed. At some point in those situations (which happens frequently as well) creeps just have to step back and take a break.


P.S. I normally don't reply to these types of threads since it's generally full of unnecessary gaming drama but I wanted to address just a few points here.

fixed.....

[the_matrix]

Lets take off the rosy freep goggles for a second here. While I certainly can't argue with the observation that often times a medium sized raid rolls single freeps (repeatedly if possible), I simply don't see what the issue is. Now I can say absolutely and positively say that a Smegg raid has NEVER been formed to kill a single freep, but once we have formed a raid we're going to march around the map and kill s*** until there's nothing left to kill (that is the point of the game after all). Of course freeps have three options in that scenario 1) Group Up, 2) Leave, and my favorite 3) try that run from tr rez to ec just one more time. :P

In regards to r v r play, I'll simply repost what I've said before. On creepside we usually disband after we've tried every sort of fight. First we fight you open field, win that, we push you close to a rez. If we win that, we push you into a keep so you have NPCs. Conversely, if we lose the open field we expect you to come fight us. We're not idiots you know (well, I am, but most aren't). If we lose a fight near our rez we withdraw to a keep. If we get our a$$ kicked there, we leave.

I don't see where the blame comes in. In my experience many freep groups leave after 1 or 2 bad losses. On average we stick around for double that (maybe we are idiots) to try to get some good action going. Apologies if the renown fest comes to a close before you've gorged yourself, but them's the breaks.

In regards to the newly arrived Unforgiven group, while I certainly enjoy playing with you guys Smegg and I have long discussed the fact that you implement different tactics to what I just stated above. In my observation Unforgiven raids are willing to wipe their group repeatedly to get 3 or 4 kills each fight, while Smegg (and my) groups tend to take a more reserved approach to fighting. Simply put, Smegg and I try to pick our spots, attempting to have fights that are advantagous to us. Different philosophies, different styles, don't think a rift needs to exist.

Oh and one more thing, when Smegg and the smegglies rush a keep kill cg and then dont flip the flag &&& is point. Don't &&&&& at me because I flip the flag after I put forth the effort to kill the npcs, hell yeah I'm gonna flip that &&&&.

This makes me laugh. The point is to get infamy yet let freeps retain control of a rez circle. You get nothing for flipping the flag except a bunch of freeps sitting in GV.