the server is inactive

[Bels_illuminati]

A troll is someone who makes replies on a thread simply to garner a reaction from other people. We've discussed the topic, what you're doing now is beyond the topic, analysing and picking apart every persons post that doesn't agree with yours.

And you say it is just a game, well in that case leave the server. Or better yet leave this thread.




PS. If you think that years of playing in the same server with the same people, and in many cases having real life friendships and meetups as a result, even marriage and children is 'silly' then you have your answer as to why I and others dislike the attitude that everything must be how an MMO 'should' be.

This small intimate server suits mine and many others style of gameplay. If it doesn't suit yours fine, go play on another or another game altogether, there is no need to out down other people's style of enjoyment just because it doesn't suit your own. If you really, truly cared about the server you would think of solutions to problems as you perceive them, and try and create a positive atmosphere on the health of our community on these boards to present a good image to potential new players.

The time for that has gone and all you've achieved so far on here is to give a bad image to new players reading your posts and to cause several of the current community to take offence.

In the expectation of being multipart quoted (I never said I was upset by it (that is the language of trolls btw putting emotions into others posts) simply that I perceive it as rude) I will say that there is no more to say (and my battery is running out ).

[zimble]

A troll is someone who makes replies on a thread simply to garner a reaction from other people. We've discussed the topic, what you're doing now is beyond the topic, analysing and picking apart every persons post that doesn't agree with yours.

I realize you have a God complex, but it isn't for you to decide when a topic is discussed, I've ignored many posts that offer differing views to mine, but I'll reply to those who directly reply/quote me, if I so wish, especially if they are rude like yours. (perhaps you are trolling me)

As for "picking apart" rubbish, if you don't like my quoting, tough, that is simply how I reply much of the time, if you can't cope with people replying on a public forum, don't post on one.

Or better yet leave this thread.

Have you ever considered following your own advice?

[zimble]

PS. If you think that years of playing in the same server with the same people, and in many cases having real life friendships and meetups as a result, even marriage and children is 'silly' then you have your answer as to why I and others dislike the attitude that everything must be how an MMO 'should' be..

Apparently an MMO should be the way you like it.

This small intimate server suits mine and many others style of gameplay. If it doesn't suit yours fine, go play on another or another game altogether, there is no need to out down other people's style of enjoyment just because it doesn't suit your own. If you really, truly cared about the server you would think of solutions to problems as you perceive them, and try and create a positive atmosphere on the health of our community on these boards to present a good image to potential new players.

I'd rather not do a disservice to new players, better to present a realistic image than a false one, the server pop is very low, which is especially &&&&&& for new / low level players or those who don't play peak time much. If you think you've presented a good image to new players, think again.

...current community to take offence.

Seriously if you take offence at the mention that Gilrain has the lowest server pop and that does have some in game consequences, then you need to seek help.

In the expectation of being multipart quoted..

Correct, and again I realize just as you think Gilrain is your own personal server only, that this is your forum only, but you will be waiting a very long time for me to change my formatting, merely because it offends you for some bizzare reason.

[Bels_illuminati]

The problem you have is you refuse to consider the good things about a low pop server with a mature community. For instance it isn't like swtor or rift. We have a core, stable base of players with real, emotional attachment to not just the game but the server too. Gilrain isn't about to collapse into nothingness, after all it has been way lower pop than now and has come back stronger.

Now it does have problems, for instance new players will struggle in early zones, and will have to make the effort if they want to end up raiding regularly etc. it will be tough to find groups while levelling and sometimes the moors can be pretty quiet. The AH can be quiet sometimes but stuff sells well and if you want something a quick shout in global will be rewarded with multiple tells.

However personally I find way more positives to suit me. For instance I far prefer questing with a low population. I prefer it too for pvp because I enjoy smaller scale stuff and can't abhor raids and zerging. I like the knowledge many people have of one another and the fact bad behaviour genuinely leads to a bad rep. I certainly prefer having less lag and no prospect of login queues. I like the fact new players that join kins feel wanted and appreciated. The time people take to help new guys is nothing short of astounding compared to other games, and while not unique to our server is still a positive of a close and respectful community.
In fact the posts in this thread are testament to the fact that people do like gilrain, and want to speak up when it seems threatened.

Now I realise I've taken a bit of a step back and got back on topic. But I don't wanna end this thread with a petty comeback. Basically gilrain is awesome for those that enjoy it. For those that don't there are other servers and other games. You said that I wanted the server to suit me, well no, I picked this server BECAUSE it suited me. I don't want to mould it to myself, simply allow myself to enjoy what it has to offer, good and bad.

It's a bit like when you said an MMO should be the way you like it. Well frankly yes! Why play an MMO you dislike? When I found I didn't enjoy swtor I didn't post lots of stuff about the game in a bad light, I just filled out my questionnaire, packed up and came back here. To an mmo I know i enjoy, not because I forced it to, but because it just fits my idea of what an mmo should be.

Anyway wanted to end on topic and more positive. I hope you can see why I and others feel strongly about gilrain, and the fact we all have a choice of different types of server to play lotro on is a good thing.


PS. Apologies if anything appeared snarky before, it was meant in the spirit of discussion. Also I was in a bit of a bad mood this evening after some rl &&&&, had a beer now

[Estarriol]

Not wishing to get into the troll aspects of the post but...

Couple of times I log in at 6pm'ish UK time and only person or one other in kin chat, and see no one in Bree or Rivendell or Tinnundir (level of char I am currently leveling) so it does feel quiet and lonely.

Maybe I need a new kin.

[Bels_illuminati]

Not wishing to get into the troll aspects of the post but...

Couple of times I log in at 6pm'ish UK time and only person or one other in kin chat, and see no one in Bree or Rivendell or Tinnundir (level of char I am currently leveling) so it does feel quiet and lonely.

Maybe I need a new kin.

I have sympathy, especially at those levels, surely the worst for activity on any server. I suppose finding a larger kin might be a good idea, my own kin is very quiet at all times except sort of between 7 and 11 in the evenings, you may find that a lot are like this right now.

There are more active kins around however, so just ask in the global channels posted above and I'm sure you'll find a more active home sooner or later. Just have to remember that Gilrain is always at it's quietest before a major xpac and that it has been much worse than this before! Things will pick up after RoR as they always do.

Good luck!

[Estarriol]

I know it gets quiet in August, all MMORPGS do, but this seems worse than usual.

Its not as though I am in an empty kin being in Redux.

I suspect it might be quiet month + players on the Beta = dead kinchat etc.

[Rastko]

I don't agree 100% with anybody here. And again, like almost everybody else here, I will too say something I've already said at least 3 times already. What choice do I have, everybody here seem to repeat same things over and over again, but every time a bit different - just like my parrot does. Now, back to the discussion...

Therefore, yes, the server is a bit inactive for lower lvls. I am almost lvl 75 with my main (because I like to take it easy with lvling and enjoy all aspects of the game), I have a nice kin, and I don't find myself lonely at all. I know the right people to enjoy the game with and I'm happy about that. I often go to EM in the evening and most likely find a freep raid every time i come, so, keeping all of this in mind, I have fun almost all the time while playing like the most of the people here.

I sometimes avoid glff as well, so I don't blame you for that. But I was full of joy the other night when I was looking for a fs on glff for some instances (there was 170+ people online). My IMs tab got almost instantly full of replies. And now while I lvlup my alts i still don't get lonely because I know the right ppl and they know me, and I have a nice kin. Only new ppl on the server can get lonely. But when they find a kin that suits them, their pain will be greatly eased (as many people already said, countelss times).

Now I find it pointless further discussing this topic because we're going nowhere fast, and we have already came to a conclusion (and it seems I am the first one to bring it out like this): Gilrain is just fine the way it is and merging with some other server is a horrid idea. Nothing needs to be changed. Carry on! And may the force be with you!

[podgie_bear]

Now I find it pointless further discussing this topic because we're going nowhere fast, and we have already came to a conclusion (and it seems I am the first one to bring it out like this): Gilrain is just fine the way it is and merging with some other server is a horrid idea. Nothing needs to be changed. Carry on! And may the force be with you!

AMEN!!!

[Tiboric]

I have some mid. lvl and lower char,'s on the server. it does have it's moment's. but up high like all server's there's a large population.

I wouldn't agree with server merge's. But what are some possible option's. Large group of community folk's, through some middle ground ideas forward i'm sure we'd find some fix's or help for lower lvl's.

Mine would be, and this maybe an idea for all server's.. have a start area kin. made up of people starting alt's. and a mix of player's from all kin's. This will help pretty much everyone i'd think, new player's learn the proper ways to fellowship and lvl, craft and understand the setting's. ect.ect. ect. Maybe have a lvl cap at some point mid 30's i'd think just after GA's finished up. This would give the kin's a better quality player pool to recruit from. Also kin's get better idea which player's fit in with there memeber's.

idk, just a thought.

Merge's from my experince's with other games is always questionable. Often ur better to just start over on another server. You may only get ur char.'s merged and lose everything else making it toatlly not worth it.

[Mirhaen]

I personally know couple of people from various kins that are helping low level players almost every day. Shiny example being Zeratic from Khazad Dum kin with her various level chars. She is almost every day in low level areas offering help. So if you don't want to join any kin but struggling with some quests, there are still couple of people to help you out, myself included. Now I do know it's no fun running around with someone much higher level than your own but some of us do have low level chars. However I'm curious why not join a kin?

As for the Gilrain vs. other servers, I'll just say that I came here from Snowbourn. And I prefer quality over quantity.

-Wrena-

[Stealthiness]

From a PVE perspective Gilrain is fine, just join a kin. If you don't want to join a kin, don't play an MMO.

From a PVP perspective Gilrain could use a merge. Specially since people from Beta told me new map will be exceptionally improving for big server's pvp, which we aren't. Also, tendency of Gilrain PVP is not to kill, but to survive, making hugging and qq'ing on the forums number 1 priority, but that is an off topic discussion, so I'll leave it there.