MIssing the good Ole days in moors

[Agost]

This is a major part of the problem. Creeps are limited to who is online in the moors. Freeps have people everywhere doing PvE, and they can just call to them to come to the moors. So what happens is... freeps increase in numbers while creeps stay static. Once the freeps get overwhelming numbers... the creeps start to leave. I can't really blame them... after all, we are all in the moors to get infamy/renown. If the points are not flowing... what is the point?

Yeah I defiantly (edit: defiantly? warden much?.... read "definitely") understand that.. Always seems like when we have a good fight going (like yesterday when we were fighting on STAB for about 20 mins haha, back and forth from EC to red TA) someone in GLFF will ask how the moors are, and the response is "good! lots of creeps at STAB".... The response to that statement is usually 5+ more freeps showing up.

Turbine set up the moors balance intending that creeps would outnumber freeps, therefore freeps do better 1v1 many times. That concept is somewhat harmfull to PvP now. RoR will be an attempt to even out the scales a little.

[asearchforreason]

Yeah I defiantly understand that..

You've been playing your warden too much.

[Agost]

You've been playing your warden too much.

lol!!!... hmmm, you may be right. D: (I will leave the typo to remind myself to start working on my weaver more :P)

[Gutzag22]

Another big issue is, even with the creeps grouped up, they never have enough healers online to compensate for the massive amounts of single target and AOE damage the freeps do. Creeps dont have a whole lot of AOE damage and freeps do. So when all the creeps in your group are dying super quick and you have MAYBE one filer or WL per group, what are ya gonna do?

Especially with the number of mini's/cappies out now.

[guitarguy12410]

But it seems thats a big part of creep mentality is when they see lots of freeps they either hide in rez, or they log off because they dont want to group back up and push out. So dont go blaming the freeps for causing you guys to quit.

Lol at this. I was on creepside most of yesterday and it was good for the most part. I don't see where you're getting the "hide in their rez part" since most of the fight yesterday was as Evo said at either Stab or red TA. Most of the creeps didn't start logging off until you guys starting outnumbering us by about 3 or 4 to one. I was in a raid most of the time I was online yesterday and we logged after many new freeps starting showing up (given a few creeps had already logged just because of RL). Also I have to disagree with you saying we "don't want to group up and push out". There were several times yesterday to where the fight would go from the tryant room in red TA to all the way back to EC (or vice versa). And also as I said I was in a raid most of yesterday so dunno where you're getting that part from either. But overall the fights yesterday were pretty decent. Would love for more freeps/creeps to come out though. I miss the Ainur days when there would be lots of RvR action (or atleast bunches of freeps/creeps out).

[asearchforreason]

Another big issue is, even with the creeps grouped up, they never have enough healers online to compensate for the massive amounts of single target and AOE damage the freeps do. Creeps dont have a whole lot of AOE damage and freeps do. So when all the creeps in your group are dying super quick and you have MAYBE one filer or WL per group, what are ya gonna do?

Especially with the number of mini's/cappies out now.

This is true. It was pretty brutal the other day when there were something like 4 captains out. Anyway, creep healing (WLs especially) is getting a decent boost with RoR so hopefully that will help.

[GoogleKeithBoadwee]

Merge us with Brandywine. It's the only way.

[Neomoth]

I'm reading over this a little and it makes me giggle seeing some people who hated Ainur back in the day are praising them since they are gone lol

[Aragorn26282]

Today was really fun for me (about 12am-3pm server time). We (freeps) started outnumbered (just me and Kraumbro) and were killed a bit in TA (but we got some kills too) then others came and after a fight in oc, the rez camp started (alas). I feared that creeps would gonna leave but I appreciated much they stayed and after a bit they broke the siege e moved again in OC...and so the fight continued. So thanks creeps and freeps for this! Very fun :-) Cya :-P

[apb8808]

I'm reading over this a little and it makes me giggle seeing some people who hated Ainur back in the day are praising them since they are gone lol

Lol I thought the same thing. As one of the few Ainur who preferred creep side, I recall sentiment being far more hostile toward us. Whether it was creep OOC or glff when someone's frustrations had finally boiled over to air it out for the whole server to enjoy. There was lively debate from some of our own members within the kin on whether how we played was good for the server or not.

I was always of the opinion that DD would be better off without Ainur(strictly PvP speaking) because there wasn't a strong enough creep infrastructure at the time to maintain coordinated RvR fighting. Just looking at the leaderboards it doesn't look like it changed at all. Too many wargs, not enough healers.

- Render/Presdas

[Glorahealz]

Lol I thought the same thing. As one of the few Ainur who preferred creep side, I recall sentiment being far more hostile toward us. Whether it was creep OOC or glff when someone's frustrations had finally boiled over to air it out for the whole server to enjoy. There was lively debate from some of our own members within the kin on whether how we played was good for the server or not.

I was always of the opinion that DD would be better off without Ainur(strictly PvP speaking) because there wasn't a strong enough creep infrastructure at the time to maintain coordinated RvR fighting. Just looking at the leaderboards it doesn't look like it changed at all. Too many wargs, not enough healers.

- Render/Presdas

Filers ftw ;.;

[Eomon]

Just get rid of all the OP classes, leaving solo cappies vs. creeps. Much fairer fight, problem solved

[guitarguy12410]

Honestly I think a server merge would be great. It would be an amazing way to get PvMP more alive and as well as just progress more with PvE (like get more t2's down). I server merge would definitely open up more PvMP and PvE favored kins.

[RainsLegacy]

Morefire the downfall of this though, is the fact getting smaller servers to combine into 1 server for moors.

Basically what they need to do is what happened on an old game i played called AirRivals or Aka for the older Fellow mates (space cowboys) lol. Or American Version: AceOnline. Basically the concept is Grinding lvls while fighting off the opposite nation, either way, in general there was a place called arena, which you could set organized ( Brigade Fights*Clans* ) or just natural 1v1's etc. Basically this is the proposition that should be placed in to the game, allow us to pvp on our server, but also allow us to pvp along side others, if wanting to be. Personally, it would enhance a lot, or in general, Make Moors F2P, Because no offence, majoirty of your vip dont moors, lol majority of them just use it to save cash :P