Not sure about the other members in SoD but my goal isn't to win at all costs and argue about who is better cause they can kill a creep. My goal is what I originally posted at the beginning of this thread. LET YOU GUYS KNOW what our raid times are so you can either A) come join us or B) come kill us.

Ranking in the top 15 on infamy/renown really shouldn't be important to anyone.... so what you play alot and kill people alot (whippity Doo) you get a gold star but are you having fun?

Goal is to have fun..... everything else who cares..

SoD isn't a full pvp kinship we try to raid and have fun. Our numbers and skill levels always vary and we are in no way an elitist kinship.

So for the last time anyone interested come join the fun...either side.

P.S thanks for all the posts everyone certainly means you care.