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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,204

    Vilya Wargs Undervalue the use of Shadow Pack (Pee Debuff)

    Why you want to use Shadow Pack in a warg pack(or raid with multiple wargs) to debuff rather than to grief and be a jerk.

    3348 both tactical mitigation and physical mitigation. Big whoop? So what? I'll pee on corspes all I want and jump their bodies because I'm boss. You don't think the skill Shadow Pack is useful? You're dead wrong.

    In a group as little as two wargs, if you both pee on an immobile Freep, guess what? That debuff will stack, and you'll be reducing their mits by 6696. Which is roughly 10%-15%(?) tactical mitigations for anything over 10k(?) mits. Anything at 7k or less will obviously lose A LOT more and be reduced to 0% or really close.(Light/medium armoured) This is because of the DR you get when you get above a certain number of tact mits. I didn't do all the calculations (or much at all) so don't ask me. Just know that 10-15% mitigations is a good number for a debuff.

    It really starts getting OP when you stack 3 of them... 10044 mitigations. A WHOPPING 10044. Meaning screw medium and Light armoured classes, they'll be reduced to 0% no questions about it! Heavy armoured classes will take a BIG hit from this, because now you're going below that Diminish Returns number. 13.4K(58.4%) to 3.4k(23.5%) for my Champ is a huge hit.... 34.9% Lets just say 35% mitigation for 10s in the puddle. Stun me/knock down or flayer and I'll die REALLY fast. It'll be like I'm naked. Only thing to save my neck is 30% incoming damage reduction from Audacity. (Not sure if damage goes through incoming damage first then mitigations or the other way around, that's another thread.)

    IF it stacks more than three, which I haven't tested, it could be the most op debuff in the game...

    EDIT* Looking at it another way.... My champ which I've built to have the minimal requirement of tact mits for a heavy is now squishier than my Hunter. Meaning 3-4 wargs with good rotations will kill me in a knockdown stun before I can react... Meaning ezpoints...Meaning what most wargs try to get.

    I have two good rotations and I'm willing to share.

    Sudden maul, rend flesh, eye rake, bestial claws.
    Bestial claws, sudden maul, rend flesh, eye rake, bestial claws.
    If you get the sudden maul debuff, rend flesh + eye rake + bestial claws will go off SUPER fast. It will be like one animation for three skills...and with positional that's so devastating. Imagine 3-4 wargs executing the same rotation behind a player, they'll be burst down in seconds. Three of the pee debuffs and a 6k-7k morale freep and you'll probably kill them before they know they were stunned.
    Last edited by eagleeye64; Jan 19 2013 at 04:29 AM.
    Brandywhine / Vilya
    Fortiscor R10 / Slownkite R9
    Beastt R7 / Diggaa R12
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  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    40
    Just when i tought i was gonna pwn with capped tact mit...

 

 

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