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    Housing update postponed? What's happened with it?

    So I'm reading the article that Massively has posted with a preview and more info about Helm's Deep, which you can read at http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09...ne-helms-deep/
    and I noticed the following statement:

    It will not contain traditional instances or skirmishes (more on that later), the much-anticipated housing update, or more mounted skills.
    So now I'm wondering- is the housing updated postponed? Part of a different update that will come later (or sooner?) Or is something else happening? Hoping it's not canceled, but really wondering as it was something that I, and I'm sure many others, was looking forward to.
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    From what I read (I think one of Sapience's posts from today) the housing update is scheduled for after the expansion, and not tied to the expansion.

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    Perhaps I am mistaken, but I do not believe it was ever stated that the Housing revamp would come *with* Helm's Deep, just that we would be getting it sometime this year. Far as I know that is still the plan.

    Sapience confirms that we're still getting it here:
    https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=6899081 #post6899081

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    The housing update is not part of the expansion. That doesn't mean we aren't still planning on making changes this year (after the expansion launches).

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    If ever I had a digital sad... this is it.

    Someone on the Massively article posted a comment that the 'housing update' was, after years and years, almost as 'mythical' as the lore. It's starting to feel that way, to be sure.

    I don't give one whit about 'Big Battles'. Rohan had/has so much lag on a warsteed that it's almost unplayable at times. Not looking forward to anything 'bigger', thank ye. But I WAS looking forward to some reskins/redesigns, and hopefully, more housing hooks.

    Oh well. Maybe NEXT year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaynith View Post
    Oh well. Maybe NEXT year...
    why do you think we would have to wait that long? who's to say they can't push this out with the next update (NOT HD) but the next update/patch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaynith View Post
    I don't give one whit about 'Big Battles'. Rohan had/has so much lag on a warsteed that it's almost unplayable at times. Not looking forward to anything 'bigger', thank ye. But I WAS looking forward to some reskins/redesigns, and hopefully, more housing hooks.
    Agree 100%. The housing update is the only thing I'm looking forward to out of any of the proposed changes that have been discussed. Of course, 'this year' means up until December 31, but that's a long time to wait for things for which we've been asking for years (and we haven't even been told what the changes will be when we're at the most 4 months out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaynith View Post
    If ever I had a digital sad... this is it.

    Someone on the Massively article posted a comment that the 'housing update' was, after years and years, almost as 'mythical' as the lore. It's starting to feel that way, to be sure.

    I don't give one whit about 'Big Battles'. Rohan had/has so much lag on a warsteed that it's almost unplayable at times. Not looking forward to anything 'bigger', thank ye. But I WAS looking forward to some reskins/redesigns, and hopefully, more housing hooks.

    Oh well. Maybe NEXT year...
    I want the housing update too

    I wonder though why you get so much warsteed lag? I don't get much at all. In fact I now have the wildermore pocket item on 6 lvl 85 characters. I ran warband raids for two months straight on all my toons everyday. I never got this unplayable lag, and judging by the groups of familiar faces that joined my raids I don't think they were getting it either.

    I am no computer guru so I guess maybe turbine could have some issue that only effects you and people like you, but using common sense I can only assume your lag is stemming from your system and/or connection.

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    I'm really disappointed about the no new housing in Helm's Deep as well.

    I was REALLY hoping to get all the housing #### that bound to me out of my shared storage and placed into my house or at least some new-fangled housing storage.

    (And no, I don't want to delete it...)

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    I have been waiting YEARS for a housing update... It's probably my most wanted update!

    Very disappointing it seems to keep getting pushed back. I SO hope it finally becomes a reality. And hopefully in the near future!
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    This isn't new - in fact, I don't think they ever said the housing update would come with the expansion. Here's what Sapience said back in early June:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience
    You're also correct that housing changes aren't specifically targetted at the expansion (that's why they don't appear on the announcement's list of features), but are targetted to this year. So you may see some elements go live before others (like the escrow changes we made recently).
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    i am more worried about the not containing traditional instances... might be a reason for me to quit the game... but well it looks like they at leist will still release the housing update which is needed.
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    At this point in time, I'm more interested in what kind of housing update we're actually going to get than when we're going to get it.

    Also, I'm willing to wait if that's what it takes to get more and freely movable hooks. But the longer I hear no news, the bigger the 'if' grows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainothon View Post
    At this point in time, I'm more interested in what kind of housing update we're actually going to get than when we're going to get it.

    Also, I'm willing to wait if that's what it takes to get more and freely movable hooks. But the longer I hear no news, the bigger the 'if' grows.
    Sapience has said that it's not going to be a complete rehaul, but more along the lines of expanding upon what's there. My hopes for free placements are very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadd_EU View Post
    Sapience has said that it's not going to be a complete rehaul, but more along the lines of expanding upon what's there. My hopes for free placements are very low.
    My big thing was changes to the hooks. Not so sure about anything being done with that now. So if we get this so called housing revamp this year or next it's not gonna matter too much to me. More then likely the changes they do make which now I suspect are going to be small won't interest me. I think people need to prepare themselves cause I foresee many unhappy people when this goes live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirwillow View Post
    So I'm reading the article that Massively has posted with a preview and more info about Helm's Deep, which you can read at http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/09...ne-helms-deep/
    and I noticed the following statement:



    So now I'm wondering- is the housing updated postponed? Part of a different update that will come later (or sooner?) Or is something else happening? Hoping it's not canceled, but really wondering as it was something that I, and I'm sure many others, was looking forward to.
    A lot of what we said seems to have been omitted. The housing update has always been planned for this year. It is not part of Helm's Deep. If you recall, it wasn't listed in the press release announcing the expansion. What we said in the interview is that Housing is slated for this year, but not in the expansion pack. Look for changes in an update after the expansion releases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    A lot of what we said seems to have been omitted. The housing update has always been planned for this year. It is not part of Helm's Deep. If you recall, it wasn't listed in the press release announcing the expansion. What we said in the interview is that Housing is slated for this year, but not in the expansion pack. Look for changes in an update after the expansion releases.
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    Can ye go into some detail about what some of these upcoming houses changes may be? Maybe a few meat scraps with that bone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    A lot of what we said seems to have been omitted. The housing update has always been planned for this year. It is not part of Helm's Deep. If you recall, it wasn't listed in the press release announcing the expansion. What we said in the interview is that Housing is slated for this year, but not in the expansion pack. Look for changes in an update after the expansion releases.
    I look forward to it. I think it will be super. I also know it takes a lot of thought and development so it's good to see it not rushed out there. Personally I hope they put a lot of stuff in the store along with the update so we can buy things and fully utilize all the space. Looking forward to it when it releases very much so.

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    I'm afraid that if there aren't more customization options and a LOT more hooks to hang the many dozens of housing items some people have, the housing update will be viewed as a failure by most, considering we've all waited an incredibly long time. Players should be able to buy kinship-sized houses at the very least. Heck, tie it to a TP purchase if you must, I'm sure people that actually care about the housing system would be more than willing to pay to increase their options.
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    I will say what I have said before. Keep in mind we've been saying update, not overhaul and not 'new system'. If you're expecting a radically different, or entirely new system you're going to be disappointed. If you're thinking improvements and updates, you're probably going to be a lot more realistic in your thinking and a lot closer to the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I will say what I have said before. Keep in mind we've been saying update, not overhaul and not 'new system'. If you're expecting a radically different, or entirely new system you're going to be disappointed. If you're thinking improvements and updates, you're probably going to be a lot more realistic in your thinking and a lot closer to the reality.

    All I've heard in regards to the housing update is crafting facilities being added to houses or kinhouses. I'd consider that an overhaul, or was that a rumor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I will say what I have said before. Keep in mind we've been saying update, not overhaul and not 'new system'. If you're expecting a radically different, or entirely new system you're going to be disappointed. If you're thinking improvements and updates, you're probably going to be a lot more realistic in your thinking and a lot closer to the reality.

    Maybe they'll add a tree and a bird to each neighborhood and call it the 'Moors housing update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I will say what I have said before. Keep in mind we've been saying update, not overhaul and not 'new system'. If you're expecting a radically different, or entirely new system you're going to be disappointed. If you're thinking improvements and updates, you're probably going to be a lot more realistic in your thinking and a lot closer to the reality.
    Can you at least tell us if there is going to be anything done to the hook system? You don't have to go into specifics just a yes or no would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    we've been saying update, not overhaul
    Kate said "a major revision to the Housing system". To a lot of us, that sounds a lot like an overhaul.
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    1. a : to examine thoroughly
    b (1) : repair (2) : to renovate, remake, revise, or renew thoroughly

    Woe to us if all that was meant is a thorough examination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I will say what I have said before. Keep in mind we've been saying update, not overhaul and not 'new system'. If you're expecting a radically different, or entirely new system you're going to be disappointed. If you're thinking improvements and updates, you're probably going to be a lot more realistic in your thinking and a lot closer to the reality.
    I think of this when I see post after post in the housing forum going on about stables, gardens, extra rooms, etc.

    So Turbine, get out your magic wand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi View Post
    Kate said "a major revision to the Housing system". To a lot of us, that sounds a lot like an overhaul.
    Obviously, "overhaul" is wishful thinking, and the dictionary definition of "revision" is probably more appropriate. Whether it's "major" or not will probably be a matter of opinion, but Sapience is toning down expectations so I doubt the housing enthusiasts will consider it major.

    My guess: crafting in your home, some more flexibility in the hook system to allow additional customization, perhaps some more hooks, and an extra storage chest you can purchase for TP. Oh, and a dozen new threads in the forums asking for an "overhaul" or a "rewrite" within 2 weeks of getting the revisions.

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