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  1. #1
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    A Mass Transfer to YOUR Server?

    A lot of servers are dying out - especially in the Moors. Many people want action, but don't want the constant RvR and lag associated with Brandywine. I'm trying to organize those who enjoy small group PvP into picking an alternative mass transfer location, in the hopes of creating a mid-high population moors with a retained focus on small group action. I've set an arbitrary minimum of 50 people committed to transferring a character - certainly not enough to serve as a decent moors population in itself, but enough to hopefully get things started. It looks like we'll hit that number relatively soon, and now we need to get some information on what server might be the best choice as a small-group, Brandywine alternative.

    I'm curious about the state of your server. Answers to any of these questions would be much appreciated!

    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?

    Thanks!

    If you're interested in joining in, please /sign here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...fer-Discussion or contact me via PM.
    Last edited by harman097; Aug 20 2014 at 05:08 PM.

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    The link takes me to the general LOTRO forums page
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    Fixed it! Faulty copy/pasting...

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    Everything below is for the past week or 2. May have to wait a little bit more to see if the action stays as good as it has been.

    1) Our current state isn't too bad, we've recently been getting good group fights going for a good amount of time in the day. No telling how long this will last though, these group fights just picked up and have been going nicely for the past week or so. No side really dominates the other for the majority of the time, if one side has too many, people will alt to the other side to create more balanced fights. One problem we have is that people like to play with their friends which is 100% understandable, but usually results in too many people flipping to help at 1 time, and just flipping the balance towards the other side. Another problem would be when only 1 or a few flip sides and these people are included in our very small population of actually good creeps/freeps. We do have a lot of people who rage quit after 1 wipe though while blaming others aka Tree of Life.
    2) For the past week(our only good week since the update so far) there have been a nice 10-12 creeps out for most hours. <--Non questing creeps. Our server doesn't have any serious or real tribes because of alot of different groups of people and a good amount of casuals. Good amount of high ranked creeps.
    3) Read Above. PvPers are spread around alot of kins.
    4) Yes
    5) Welcomed by anyone who pvps.
    6) 1v1s are usually happening at appropriate times and when there can be decent action, people get together to gank them to create this action.

    The action is usually anywhere between 2-10 pm server time.

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?
    1)Asylum/No QQ dominated
    2)No QQ are the only quality tribe and they are mostly all high ranked, all other creeps are irrelevant
    3)Asylum is the only quality kin and they are mostly all high ranked, all other freeps are irrelevant
    4)No, peak hours consists of about 20ish creeps(on a good day) grouping up and being farmed by a 6 man Asylum group until they leave
    5)Welcomed, Asylum/No QQ could always use with more food
    6)Fantastic, when Asylum/No QQ approves of them happening, when they dont there are no 1v1s

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  7. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    A lot of servers are dying out - especially in the Moors. Many people want action, but don't want the constant RvR and lag associated with Brandywine. I'm trying to organize those who enjoy small group PvP into picking an alternative mass transfer location, in the hopes of creating a mid-high population moors with a retained focus on small group action. I've set an arbitrary minimum of 50 people committed to transferring a character - certainly not enough to serve as a decent moors population in itself, but enough to hopefully get things started. It looks like we'll hit that number relatively soon, and now we need to get some information on what server might be the best choice as a small-group, Brandywine alternative.

    I'm curious about the state of your server. Answers to any of these questions would be much appreciated!

    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?

    Thanks!

    If you're interested in joining in, please /sign here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...fer-Discussion or contact me via PM.
    1) Current state there's always something out and if not the freeps that are online roughly have about 6-7 of them who have good creeps. We get some small to big group action from time to time. We all know each other mostly so we keep it even as much as we can.

    2) There is a good size ammount id say prolly 20ish and got some ranks in there. Id say mostly r8+ is what we have. Rank really doesnt mean much tbh though.

    3) We def have a strong hundred on most of the time can dip into the 60s but that's stating from glff cant really tell. We have kins not designated for just one thing really. We can do pretty much anything in my kin. We have a bunch of ranks on freepside pretty even with creeps.

    4) We can get up to raid v raid but not usually. happened a couple of days this week but mostly group fights (6-8) is what we have at the moment.

    5) Mass transfer would indeed be welcomed. Can always use more in the moors would definitely bump it up to raid v raid if we got a good 50 people no doubt.

    6) There's always some sort of 1v1 since again we kinda all know each other so we test builds and rotations and such. There are gankers but meh that's everywhere really.

    This server is basically a small-mid moors action at the moment if we had another 50 to that than i can see it easily being med-high. Would motivate more people to go there too.

    Hope this helps.

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  8. #7
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    Vote Dwarrowdelf for Mass Transfer 2014

    1. Our server isn't that populated, recently the biggest fight we had was 16 freeps vs 10 creeps. If you log in randomly during peak hours, you'll probably find somewhere between 5-8 on either side. We all know each other in the moors, so if things get too zergy on either side, people will flip over to help the losing side. I'm not trying to say we are flipper dominated, I feel like there is a certain stigma attached to that word. We just don't want an entire side ragequitting over something stupid, because that does happen. *Tree of Life*

    2. Creeps currently have a good amount of high ranked/experienced players. There's only a handful of tribes to begin with. For the most part, people create tribes based on their freepside kinship. (Uprising/Lost Legion, No QQ/Asylum, Hot Babes/Classy Babes, Tree of Death/Tree of Life) Since Dwarrowdelf is kind of small atm, if you are r9, that's like being r12 on a server like Brandywine.

    3. Can't really measure freepside populations because GLFF has been decommissioned, but we used to have somewhere between 60-110 online back when it was used more. Kins aren't entirely PvP oriented, most do PvE and flip to Ettenmoors if there is action.

    4. At peak hours, weekends usually have something like raid vs raid. On weekdays, you will probably find somewhere between full fellowship and 12-man raid. Usually we don't form raids unless one side is already overpowered because people QQ if things get too zergy. Creeps are forced to gimp themselves because some freeps are lacking experience/audacity/gear/rank/skill.

    5. Definitely welcomed.

    6. 1v1s happen at GTA when few people are on. It ends when action picks up or if more people log in. Obviously there is some ganking, every server has it. We have some of our own local gankers but they aren't very good or high ranked. For example, when there is no doubt that a person is about to die, and BOOM a low rank burglar hits CGD on them to steal the KB and brag about it in World Chat. I'm not going to name any names but *Ninjashadows* creeps/freeps get jealous of other creeps/freeps who beat them in 1v1s and end up ganking them. Best to ignore these people as they don't contribute much when there is group play happening.
    Last edited by Hejazia; Aug 22 2014 at 10:39 AM. Reason: typos

  9. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by harman097 View Post
    1) What is the current state of your PvP? Freep dominated? Creep dominated? Flipper dominated?
    2) What is your creep population like? Are there quality tribes? Are there a decent amount of high ranked creeps left playing?
    3) What is your freep population like? PvP kins? High ranked freeps?
    4) Do you currently have Raid v Raid at peak hours?
    5) Would a mass transfer of PvP'ers be welcomed or shunned?
    6) How is your 1v1 scene here? Is it frowned upon with lots of 1v1 gankers and OOC hate? Or are there a decent amount who enjoy it?
    Overall I have to agree with Vrax, Jak and Hej with their input and comments on the matter.
    1) Current state of Dwarrowdelfs PvMP is pretty decent at the moment. I think once people got geared up and fixed their LIs, they started coming to moors again. It isn't like it used to be anymore, but slowly getting better. Neither side is really more dominated than the other. If seems unbalanced then some people will flip to make it more even to keep the fight going.
    2) Creep Population is OK. Some of our high rank creeps ended up transferring to Branydwine unfortunately, but we do have a couple R9s, 10s, 11s and 12s, plus a rare few 13 creeps. There are a few good tribes out, but they are small and mostly just the creep side version of their freep kinships, which isn't a bad thing! Means most of us try to be organized, instead of all over the place
    3) Freep Population is about the same as creep. Neither side is ever really unbalanced. Quite a few high rank freeps, but overall, there are more red and blue rank freeps that I have seen.
    4) During the afternoon or evening is when there are some group, and sometimes raid action going on. It always picks up on weekends.
    5.) A mass transfer would be welcomed!! Would make things a lot more fun and get to know some new people!
    6) 1v1s are alright. Sometimes if people are 1v1ing for too long, say, more than 2 or 3 hours, then some people try to gank to create some action if there is enough creeps/freeps there at the moment. Obviously there are a few people who get upset by this but in my opinion I would rather try to create group action than sit at GTA watching the same people 1v1.

    I really hope you guys end up transferring to Dwarrowdelf. I know it has a reputation of being a bit 'troll' like, but it's not a bad server at all. There are so many friendly people always willing to help one another out.
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  10. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakreal View Post
    1) Current state there's always something out and if not the freeps that are online roughly have about 6-7 of them who have good creeps. We get some small to big group action from time to time. We all know each other mostly so we keep it even as much as we can.

    2) There is a good size ammount id say prolly 20ish and got some ranks in there. Id say mostly r8+ is what we have. Rank really doesnt mean much tbh though.

    3) We def have a strong hundred on most of the time can dip into the 60s but that's stating from glff cant really tell. We have kins not designated for just one thing really. We can do pretty much anything in my kin. We have a bunch of ranks on freepside pretty even with creeps.

    4) We can get up to raid v raid but not usually. happened a couple of days this week but mostly group fights (6-8) is what we have at the moment.

    5) Mass transfer would indeed be welcomed. Can always use more in the moors would definitely bump it up to raid v raid if we got a good 50 people no doubt.

    6) There's always some sort of 1v1 since again we kinda all know each other so we test builds and rotations and such. There are gankers but meh that's everywhere really.

    This server is basically a small-mid moors action at the moment if we had another 50 to that than i can see it easily being med-high. Would motivate more people to go there too.

    Hope this helps.

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