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Thread: My 2 cents.

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    My 2 cents.

    I know it was never going to perfect from the start but I need to list somethings I feel NEED to be looked at.

    I'll be focusing on redline mostly as that is my preferred play style both pve and moors.

    1. Our interrupt needs to be in both forms. The point of an interrupt is to quickly interrupt the targets induction. How can I do that in man form "quickly". I can't
    2. We need a slow in redline. It is basically a necessity for a melee class in the moors, not necessarily in pve but it is useful.
    3. Because we have no ranged except for vigilant roar (yay) we need that slow. Anyone that doesn't want to die, wont. (our in combat sprint does not always work out in theory)
    4. I feel like we need more skills. 4 attacks in man form and 4 in bear form. Not much of a rotation to work with and gets boring. Fast.
    5. Any chance to change the bears appearance? Cosmetics for the bear would be badass. Shooting for the stars I know
    6. Slam gives the chance to provide a heal, yet we have no way (if 1v1 in moors or pve) to actually take advantage of that. Maybe add a 5th melee attack with a stun or chance of one?
    7. Wrath pots.
    8. Personally I think we bring nothing to a group. Other classes can out dps us, can outheal us, can out buff us. Something needs to be given to the class that is appealing. We are just a filler

    Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of the class and mostly positive about it but 1-8 irritate me the most. Otherwise good job
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    9. Forgot to add - being dropped out of bear form on stuns/dazes/knockdowns. As bear form is regarded as our main/burst dps, it can be dealt with way too easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladestr View Post
    I know it was never going to perfect from the start but I need to list somethings I feel NEED to be looked at.

    I'll be focusing on redline mostly as that is my preferred play style both pve and moors.

    1. Our interrupt needs to be in both forms. The point of an interrupt is to quickly interrupt the targets induction. How can I do that in man form "quickly". I can't
    2. We need a slow in redline. It is basically a necessity for a melee class in the moors, not necessarily in pve but it is useful.
    3. Because we have no ranged except for vigilant roar (yay) we need that slow. Anyone that doesn't want to die, wont. (our in combat sprint does not always work out in theory)
    4. I feel like we need more skills. 4 attacks in man form and 4 in bear form. Not much of a rotation to work with and gets boring. Fast.
    5. Any chance to change the bears appearance? Cosmetics for the bear would be badass. Shooting for the stars I know
    6. Slam gives the chance to provide a heal, yet we have no way (if 1v1 in moors or pve) to actually take advantage of that. Maybe add a 5th melee attack with a stun or chance of one?
    7. Wrath pots.
    8. Personally I think we bring nothing to a group. Other classes can out dps us, can outheal us, can out buff us. Something needs to be given to the class that is appealing. We are just a filler

    Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of the class and mostly positive about it but 1-8 irritate me the most. Otherwise good job
    All great suggestions. The idea right now is to let the class sit in the live environment for a little while and then address concerns like these in a future update. It won't be a 15.1 update, but the following update is a realistic target.

    Once we have a good idea of what we are planning, I can post some of the ideas for us all to discuss.

    -Jinjaah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinjaah View Post
    All great suggestions. The idea right now is to let the class sit in the live environment for a little while and then address concerns like these in a future update. It won't be a 15.1 update, but the following update is a realistic target.

    Once we have a good idea of what we are planning, I can post some of the ideas for us all to discuss.

    -Jinjaah
    Definitely. Putting the ideas out there is the main thing I guess. Thanks for an inside word Jinjaah, refreshing to get a reply
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    Got my beorning to lvl38 and now it feels boring. I play mostly red line and all what I do is spam 3-5 buttons for wrath in man form and when in bear form - I use only thrash skill because it's low cost, 1 sec cd and does huge damage, all other skills can't compete with it.
    Here is my thoughts how to make this class more fun:

    - in-combat/out-of-combat wrath mechanics should be changed: no wrath penalty in combat and 3 wrath per sec in out of combat state, all wrath depleted if you stay more than 9 sec out of combat also your character will auto-shift to man form

    - thrash should be nerfed: more wrath cost/longer cd or less damage

    - more skills in bear form, also add some skills what will generate wrath

    - more trait skills in red line

    - man form: add quick interrupt skill with 5-15 sec cd, make rending blow (blue line) tier 1 skill

    - relentless maul - more damage and maybe less wrath cost

    - fix auto-shifting in bear form when stunned

    - add wrath potions

    - more cc skills

    - move some t1-t3 trait skills (like raging blow/sacrifice/turn the tides) to higher tiers

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    I would like to see my main hotkey bar switch to bear skills when I hit the bearform button...
    OR
    Make the Man-only skills do different things when in bear form.
    Right now, bearform abilities are clunky to get to.
    And it makes my hand hurt when I have to hold shift while hitting bear only skills, if Im not using the mouse.

 

 

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