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  1. #1
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    CC Cancelling Out Bear Form

    So its a bit ridiculous that CC cancels bear form, especially in the moors as you are stunned/knock-down/daze every 10 seconds.

    Can this please be changed.

    And do freeps even get DR on CC anymore? I know creeps do but I never seem to see the duration of CC going down on freeps.
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    So this is getting beyond a bloody joke. Seriously can't play in the moors.

    Seeing as all our major skills are Bear form and CC breaks us out. Running red line I get in bear form, get stunned (breaks bear form), wait for 5sec cooldown on skin change, DPS for 2sec and get stunned again (breaks bear form).

    As every class but the Reaver has a stun on a 10sec cooldown, this mechanic is pretty game breaking.
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    This affects PvE as well, and is one of my biggest annoyances with Beorning. Stuns etc should NOT reset your bear form, period.

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    Yep, signed this is my main loss of DPS. Only real DPS is done in bear form and when you can't get in it or stay in it when you have plenty of wrath you may as well be doing the DPS of a pet which btw we look like but thats a whole other issue..
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    At the very least I'd like to see an anti-stun/daze element added after using Skin-Change. Or Shake Free could add a preventative aspect like SOP: R. Or yeah, no deactivating when we're cc-ed. How is it not just treated like a stance?

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    Many of the mobs have/use stuns.
    With the update that makes mobs use these stuns more frequently, bear form becomes impractical.
    Thus, with all the stun-users, half the class becomes unusable.
    Stuns dont knock Minies or Wardens out of their stances.
    Stuns shouldnt knock you out of bear form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbz280291 View Post
    As every class but the Reaver has a stun on a 10sec cooldown, this mechanic is pretty game breaking.
    actually weavers don't have a 10 sec cd on stuns either the stun has a 20 sec cd+ either a 10 sec (with r11 trait) or 15 sec delay where it can be removed before the stun hits making it 30-40 sec cd theres a knockdown on a 1min cs and a 2 mez's on 30 sec cds (the 3 target aoe is r9) there is a FEAR on a 10 sec cd though but with its high resist rate its more like 20-30 secs between applications. My ba at r10 doesn't have ANY mez/stuns at all since not everyone has all the storebought stuff( the gash stun is a r11 trait and cd becomes 20 secs and the headshot knockdown is r14 and has a 15 sec cd)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisanewname;7271866 My ba at r10 doesn't have ANY mez/stuns at all since not everyone has all the storebought stuff[b
    ( the gash stun is a r11 trait and cd becomes 20 secs[/b] and the headshot knockdown is r14 and has a 15 sec cd)
    The gash stun actually doesn't make the cd longer... tooltip may say so on trait, but the actual cd doesn't go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisanewname View Post
    actually weavers don't have a 10 sec cd on stuns either the stun has a 20 sec cd+ either a 10 sec (with r11 trait) or 15 sec delay where it can be removed before the stun hits making it 30-40 sec cd theres a knockdown on a 1min cs and a 2 mez's on 30 sec cds (the 3 target aoe is r9) there is a FEAR on a 10 sec cd though but with its high resist rate its more like 20-30 secs between applications. My ba at r10 doesn't have ANY mez/stuns at all since not everyone has all the storebought stuff( the gash stun is a r11 trait and cd becomes 20 secs and the headshot knockdown is r14 and has a 15 sec cd)
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    Signed.

    It's ridic and totally gamebreaking in the moors in particular.

    Also any spider claiming he can't CC a freep with any form of CC once every 10 seconds is seriously, seriously poor at their class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrildar View Post
    Signed.

    It's ridic and totally gamebreaking in the moors in particular.

    Also any spider claiming he can't CC a freep with any form of CC once every 10 seconds is seriously, seriously poor at their class.
    I never said anything about not being able to use a form of cc every 10 secs what i said was that the STUN wasn't on a 10 sec cd like was claimed.It's actually really easy to spam cc when u have 2 roots,a stun,mez and a fear all on 30 secs or less cd and a knockdown on a 1 min cd but for the most part its not really needed with how op spiders are overall .though i still think it would be nice if it could be used EFFECTIVELY as an interrupt but between the induction on mez/knockdown the 10/15 sec delay on the stun and the animation/resist rate(at least vs lights) on fears u really either need to be a psychic or really lucky to be able to interrupt now and thats really the only weakness to spiders and all the advantages like over the top damage (its WAY to high) lots of cc,self heals, and high mits there needs to be some kind of drawback lol.

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    At the very least there should be a passive trait in blue that makes Bear form on a 0s CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisanewname View Post
    I never said anything about not being able to use a form of cc every 10 secs what i said was that the STUN wasn't on a 10 sec cd like was claimed.It's actually really easy to spam cc when u have 2 roots,a stun,mez and a fear all on 30 secs or less cd and a knockdown on a 1 min cd but for the most part its not really needed with how op spiders are overall .though i still think it would be nice if it could be used EFFECTIVELY as an interrupt but between the induction on mez/knockdown the 10/15 sec delay on the stun and the animation/resist rate(at least vs lights) on fears u really either need to be a psychic or really lucky to be able to interrupt now and thats really the only weakness to spiders and all the advantages like over the top damage (its WAY to high) lots of cc,self heals, and high mits there needs to be some kind of drawback lol.
    Why are you here? A spider can permanently CC a bear by mezzing, latent poisin, root, webs, FM, or fear when not to take out of bear form. You're right not every BA has stun skills, only 99.9999999%.

    Beoring only has one stun which is relient on a 1 minute CD, and must be in bear form. Hard to get the stun if you can't even use skills in bear form lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbz280291 View Post
    So its a bit ridiculous that CC cancels bear form, especially in the moors as you are stunned/knock-down/daze every 10 seconds.

    Can this please be changed.

    And do freeps even get DR on CC anymore? I know creeps do but I never seem to see the duration of CC going down on freeps.
    Signed...

    Really gets old quick getting knocked out of bear form. I did troll slayer deed in Lonelands, and omg it got old. Every single troll out of 180, stuns you or dazes or whatever they do
    At the least it would be better like someone else said if the bear switch skill was on a way shorter cool-down. Eliminating the forced change would be ideal.
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