why so expensive? Freeping not exactly free

[doctorwhofan]

Why do I have to pay 20 mithril coins for 6 hours of moors play but for 595 TP I can have a creep access forever?? I wish there was a set price for freeps. I mean, I'd pay more and per character access as long as I can freely leave the Ettenmoors and return (for festivals, deeds or such). Otherwise, I really cannot afford to do this. THis with my server (the Big "E") complaining about the lack of PvP playing. I want to, but a subscription is not possible at thistime.

[Jillymala]

Why do I have to pay 20 mithril coins for 6 hours of moors play but for 595 TP I can have a creep access forever?? I wish there was a set price for freeps. I mean, I'd pay more and per character access as long as I can freely leave the Ettenmoors and return (for festivals, deeds or such). Otherwise, I really cannot afford to do this. THis with my server (the Big "E") complaining about the lack of PvP playing. I want to, but a subscription is not possible at thistime.

There is a set price for Freeps, it's called VIP sub.
Creeps don't have access to everything freeps have so it wouldn't make much sense to charge more for creep classes.

[Elgrind]

That call a "balance" on an "old access system"...
Honestly with that state in moors. I should separate VIP and "subscription for moors".
So you can pay only for access in Moors. Pay in game(Mith.Coin) is really nonsense and expensive.

The Core problem(my own opinion from Snowbourn):
A old system, when freeps have to only pay TP for class(once) and they have free access to moors = more numbers, lots of creeps.
Freeps = have to be VIPs, more OPs skill(compensation for less freep number), less players enter in moors(VIP payment) = less number.

Now situation is "balanced" and PvP almost dieing every night(prime time) + daytime(freep/creeps rather do PvE in grp, than solo roam around finding a fun/fight)
So i blame a old system, which doesnt changed. Also now fight are more like RvR,grp vs grp, so with even number in bothside is fun.
But now 50+creeps vs 20-30freeps that arent fun, but laggy and soon for GV camping...
Yes if i am avoiding those zergball/gv camp, I can roam around map freely, without freeps/creeps there...

[Armdyl]

they never said freeping was becoming free. only time moors became free was when reavers became free.

[LEGENDofALL]

That call a "balance" on an "old access system"...
Honestly with that state in moors. I should separate VIP and "subscription for moors".
So you can pay only for access in Moors. Pay in game(Mith.Coin) is really nonsense and expensive.

The Core problem(my own opinion from Snowbourn):
A old system, when freeps have to only pay TP for class(once) and they have free access to moors = more numbers, lots of creeps.
Freeps = have to be VIPs, more OPs skill(compensation for less freep number), less players enter in moors(VIP payment) = less number.

Now situation is "balanced" and PvP almost dieing every night(prime time) + daytime(freep/creeps rather do PvE in grp, than solo roam around finding a fun/fight)
So i blame a old system, which doesnt changed. Also now fight are more like RvR,grp vs grp, so with even number in bothside is fun.
But now 50+creeps vs 20-30freeps that arent fun, but laggy and soon for GV camping...
Yes if i am avoiding those zergball/gv camp, I can roam around map freely, without freeps/creeps there...

How do you figure in the old system they only(freeps) had to pay once? You either got lucky and spent the $200 dollars for a lifetime acct or you pay monthly(1,3,6,9,12 month) to play in the moors and be VIP. That my friend isn't free and let's be honestly the people who are still paying a monthly bill are helping the game not hurting it.

The large number fights today aren't because they don't change it's the way turbine has made the moors not a solo type area and not as much because reavers are free.

Also the large number fights are a server by server base because there's alot of dead servers hence the games getting old.

[no_idea]

Seriously, Turbine make Ettenmoors one time purchase (2.5K, 5K whatever) but don't charge 15 bucks a month for it. It's not fun being zerged all the time by ftp players (what constantly happens on BW) or make some restrictions for creeps like I suggested here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-on-creepside

[avengingbananaslug]

Seriously, Turbine make Ettenmoors one time purchase (2.5K, 5K whatever) but don't charge 15 bucks a month for it. It's not fun being zerged all the time by ftp players (what constantly happens on BW) or make some restrictions for creeps like I suggested here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-on-creepside

Haha you want creeps to pay for the dreck that is creepside right now? Jokes.

[LEGENDofALL]

Seriously, Turbine make Ettenmoors one time purchase (2.5K, 5K whatever) but don't charge 15 bucks a month for it. It's not fun being zerged all the time by ftp players (what constantly happens on BW) or make some restrictions for creeps like I suggested here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-on-creepside

It should never be a one time price because you can do other stuff outside the moors while creeps can't. Suggestion for you, suck it up and pay for VIP 3 months at a time because it's not that much money

[branvogil]

Seriously, Turbine make Ettenmoors one time purchase (2.5K, 5K whatever) but don't charge 15 bucks a month for it. It's not fun being zerged all the time by ftp players (what constantly happens on BW) or make some restrictions for creeps like I suggested here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-on-creepside

The freep goggles are strong with this one, tin hat time.

[JOHNARA]

Seriously, Turbine make Ettenmoors one time purchase (2.5K, 5K whatever) but don't charge 15 bucks a month for it. It's not fun being zerged all the time by ftp players (what constantly happens on BW) or make some restrictions for creeps like I suggested here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-on-creepside

MMOs aren't exactly free, 2.5k TPs would be less than $30 and 5k TPS would be around $50 and that's the cost of 3 and 6 months VIP.
Turbine used to offer Lifetime Subscription couple of years ago for $200 but they removed them.

So yea...don't wait for cheap Ettenmoors Pass or Lifetime subscription coming back...