Update 17?

[Almagnus1]

Has there been any word on when U17 will be coming, or what is slated for U17?

[Leixy]

16.2 Is the PvMP map for Osgilliath.

Update 17 is likely the Fall update for Minas Tirith around US Thankgiving holiday in November.

"Minas Tirith: For the late Fall"

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...%80%99s-Letter

[LethalLethality]

I really hope Minas Tirith is a full expac and not just a small region.

[Yula_the_Mighty]

I really hope Minas Tirith is a full expac and not just a small region.

If we were getting a full expansion in 2015 it would have been announced in the annual Producer's Letter that came out in January. This year's big activity that is still underway is the server move and consolidation which is going to be done until Fall of this year.

My personal opinion. Helms Deep (November 18, 2013) is the last full expansion for Lotro. The earliest that the sixth expansion pack would be released would be Fall, 2016. At that point Lotro would be a very old online game approaching its tenth year in live.

Warner Brothers is likely to completely end Lotro development within the next five years. Just depends on how quickly the paying player population declines. The MMO market is really really saturated currently. There are too many products available for us to choose from.

[siipperi]

Maybe we take U16.2 first, going to be more interesting anyway, unless they make new classic dungeon raid for Minas Tirith. Minas Tirith looks to be small regional update with lots of BBs, for players who like that content.

[bucko39]

Still waiting on some crafting love...

[Herwegur]

Any estimate for when to expect 16.2?

Episodic content I think is launching in that one too.

[TheMule1983]

Any estimate for when to expect 16.2?

Episodic content I think is launching in that one too.

What is taking Leixy so long to answer this? He is the all knowing!

[Leixy]

What is taking Leixy so long to answer this? He is the all knowing!

Since it is primarily a pvp update, you guys should've applied to the PvMP council, you'd know more that way.

I could see Turbine skipping the beta process for Osgilliath PvMP map entirely. Sticking to just PvP and Palantir councils alpha testing. Because Turbine knows PvMPers are going to hate and rage about anything Turbine actually beta tests.

[Vyvyanne]

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

[TheMule1983]

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

Wait a second, are you saying Leixy was wrong?

[kickman77]

WAIT.... Cosmetic weapons... tell us more please

[Leixy]

Wait a second, are you saying Leixy was wrong?

I'm salivating at the thought of the beta threads we'll get this weekend. =D

[Galadhloth]

Cosmetic weapons??? More info please!!

[robbie1435]

It seems that Cosmetic weapons has taken the light from the PvMP map.

COSSSSMETICCCCCC WEAAAAPOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNSSSSSS SSSSSSSS

[Arasul123]

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

But Seriously, instead of adding cosmetic weapons, why not fix the cosmetics we have. Half the gear we get we can't customize, and when you can the colorization is seldom where it makes a difference. Can't count the amount of times I thought 'this would look awesome in blue' only to have it come out purple and not in the spot I want it.

Not being a programmer, I figured maybe it was too hard to fix.... until I logged into GW2 and saw what a 21st MMO cosmetic system looked like. Seriously, 30 seconds on that customization and then come back to LOTRO and you feel like your computer crashed and you had to go back to using DOS.

I get that you guys don't want to spend any money on fixing stuff that you're not going to make money on (Being a subscriber since the beginning I'm all for capitalism), but SERIOUSLY if you're gonna waste the time for cosmetic weapons, why not spend a couple minutes and figure out how to actually customize the stuff we've got (and I won't even go down the Housing cosmetics... would be happy if my Nadhin could actually be a Blue that wasn't purple....oh, and the blue be WHERE I WANTED IT TO GO).

SERIOUSLY>

[DeadlyGazebo]

WAIT.... Cosmetic weapons... tell us more please

Especially tell us if it includes cosmetic shields! I've got a shield that's been stuck in my vault since eastern rohan waiting for the day that you'd let me equip it cosmetically, because so many of the useful-stat shields are so ugly...

[djheydt]

Cosmetic weapons.... after all these years of "it
can't be done..."

Cool.

But it's ironic, because after all these years of me
complaining about the LM's staffs Eruanne has gone
through, with weird-looking deely-dads atop them,
now she finally has a staff whose appearance I like:
an image of the White Tree.

I still hope cosmetic staff appearances will include
some that look like plain ol' sticks of wood.

[Leixy]

@Arasul I believe there's over 300,000 cosmetic items in the live database, going back through and re-designing each one would be too much.

[Esterian]

But Seriously, instead of adding cosmetic weapons, why not fix the cosmetics we have. Half the gear we get we can't customize, and when you can the colorization is seldom where it makes a difference. Can't count the amount of times I thought 'this would look awesome in blue' only to have it come out purple and not in the spot I want it.

Not being a programmer, I figured maybe it was too hard to fix.... until I logged into GW2 and saw what a 21st MMO cosmetic system looked like. Seriously, 30 seconds on that customization and then come back to LOTRO and you feel like your computer crashed and you had to go back to using DOS.

I get that you guys don't want to spend any money on fixing stuff that you're not going to make money on (Being a subscriber since the beginning I'm all for capitalism), but SERIOUSLY if you're gonna waste the time for cosmetic weapons, why not spend a couple minutes and figure out how to actually customize the stuff we've got (and I won't even go down the Housing cosmetics... would be happy if my Nadhin could actually be a Blue that wasn't purple....oh, and the blue be WHERE I WANTED IT TO GO).

SERIOUSLY>

There is always someone finding the hair in the soup....

GW2 is indeed a younger program. Small HINT: It got released later

It realy hurts to read posts like yours.

[Herwegur]

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance.

I really like how your soon really means soon, thanks for replying!

[Warmutkan]

Shocked that none of the hornets stung you when you kicked the nest with the S-word, Vyv.

Good to hear that we'll be hearing more from the team toward the end of the week. Curious about oh so many things.

[Siddharta]

SOON!....LOL
Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

1 Question:
Is 12-MAN NEW RAID possible?

[fredtellier]

@Arasul I believe there's over 300,000 cosmetic items in the live database, going back through and re-designing each one would be too much.

The u16 database was posted, you can count them.
A lot less than 300 000.

[Wanderv]

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

Cosmetic Weapons!

Cosmetic Weapons!

We just got used to that new PvMP-map isn't myth and now this! Oh Turbine. Soooooo, how about new multiboss raid and housing revamp? :P Joke Though if you'll do these, you obviously will be the best Lotro producer.