World Transfers

[maartena]

To Transfer Kinship:
1. Choose destination world and announce this to your kinship via MOTD, emails, etc
2. Transfer your Kin-leader character to the preferred world via the character transfer interface in the launcher
3. When you log in on the destination world with the Kin-leader, the kinship will be already created and ready for you. As Kinmates join that world they will be auto-added back to the kin. All items from housing or storage will be granted back to the character they were bound to, or in the kin-leader's storage.

Vyvyanne,

At some point in time there was an idea of a "left behind" kin leader so the transfer could be made easier. Will the kinship immediately and completely disband when I click the "go" button, or will people logging in to the old server still log on to a kinship so they can talk to eachother?

Also: when I send a kinmail today, will everyone get it, even if the kin gets disbanded? And how long will they get it for? 30 days? What if someone logs in in 60 days from now, will he know where we went?

Also, I have a Tower of Orthanc in my kinhouse that is bound to someone else outside the kin. That particular character however, has transferred to a different server over 6 months ago, so he no longer exists on this server. He had said I could keep the tower at that point in time. His alts are on the server though, and he has expressed interest in getting that tower back now that the transfers are coming. Is the only way for him to get the tower back to have that character on the server? What if he creates a character with that exact name on the old server, will it transfer back to it?

[Eldarian_Grace]

I would think that folks with maxed slots on multiple servers are outliers. You can't plan something like this around outliers. You have to plan around what makes up the bulk of your population. Someone on here has posted that they have maxed out the slots on every single server. You cannot make that person whole.

A lobectomy might help

[PoeticNightmare]

Wow this whole thing is just a sad read. Any one else get a bit choked up reading it. Anyways just have a couple of things

Choked up with excitement! I am incredibly happy about this. I haven't played in a long time. Most of that is due to certain changes on the game and overall direction. But, I'm still in love with the story and world so the main thing that has kept me from playing is the fact that my sever is practically empty and my kinship almost always empty. It's disheartening to play without anyone to talk to. The transfers breathe some life into the game for me so that I can meet new people and see activity all around me. Oh, and maybe actually find something on the auction house for once lol.

[Calyniel]

Agreed.


If I have paid for 11 slots on Withywindle, then I should be entitled to access all 11 characters on the destination server of my choice, without any extra payment. If that means moving all of them to Laurelin and having say 16 slots in total (say I have 5 existing characters there plus 11 incoming), or moving all 11 characters to a different server and having 11 slots there, then that is how it should work. It's the same method that SOE applied when doing server mergers in EQ2 and I see no reason why it can't be done here. Under no circumstances should I have to pay extra to access characters which I am being forced to move. If I've paid once for the extra slots, I should not have to pay a second time for them.

i have to agree with this, if one has already paid to open the slots once on a server that is being closed one should not be forced to buy any new ones on the destination server. I only have 8 characters so it's not a big expense for me but others in my kinship have many more than the 6 allowed.

[maartena]

Agreed.

I have 11 characters on Withywindle plus a number of characters on Laurelin (5, I think). I assume Laurelin will be remaining, and that Withywindle will close. It would appear that if I transfer from Withywindle to another server (not Laurelin) I will only have the default slots on that server - would that be 6?

The same principle should apply to both character slots and shared vault slots: what has been paid for on the closing server should be automatically applied on the destination server (in addition to any existing characters and shared vault slots on the destination server).

Not a problem, when you buy a character slot or shared vault or shared wardrobe slot, they are ACCOUNT WIDE, so you have the same amount of character slots on each server.

[SjsharksBoy]

If you have a reaver on Server A, and you transfer a reaver from Server B onto server A, what happens? Does the reaver from server B replace the original reaver on server A?

[Annariel]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: despite my worries that I could lose my character name, house, etc, I'm also kind of excited that I might finally find out what it's like to play an MMO... I still haven't reached level 50, so it's rare for me to see more than a few characters around. Sometimes, I'm the only one in my area! I'm looking forward to seeing some activity out in the game world, rather than /world chat...

[maartena]

You will have 9/6 and in order to play the 3 extras you will need to delete a character or get extra slots. All of your characters do not have to go to the same world, however.

Will you, during the transfer period, make character slots on sale? And I don't mean a measly 20% off, but something like 50% off for the entire period till October 1st, so people have a chance to re-activate their "locked" characters and it being less of a burden to the wallet?

Also, would it not be a nice gesture to give everyone that is going to transfer off of servers 1 extra character slot for free, just as a gesture of good will?

[Mar-Evayave]

Choked up with excitement! I am incredibly happy about this. I haven't played in a long time. Most of that is due to certain changes on the game and overall direction. But, I'm still in love with the story and world so the main thing that has kept me from playing is the fact that my sever is practically empty and my kinship almost always empty. It's disheartening to play without anyone to talk to. The transfers breathe some life into the game for me so that I can meet new people and see activity all around me. Oh, and maybe actually find something on the auction house for once lol.

This in a nutshell. Haven't been able to stay on Riddermark for more than a few minutes at a time for over a year. Tried (ages ago, when West Gondor launched) to get back into the server. But the AH was dead and I had no one to play with, and was having a hard time soloing gear for myself. The quest rewards weren't doing it for me, and the option of questing with friends on the harder quests simply wasn't there.

Compared to Landroval. Booming AH industry, loads of people to call on if I get stuck, plenty of friendly chatter.

[maartena]

If you have a reaver on Server A, and you transfer a reaver from Server B onto server A, what happens? Does the reaver from server B replace the original reaver on server A?

This is a really good question! Normally you can only have 1 of each type of creep, and the free account players may have have reavers on quite a few servers. Will they get lost?

[Macroscian]

Good times! I accept that my older characters on small servers may lose their names. It is splendid that they don't just disappear but can be transferred. Of course there may be a few bumps and a frenzy on the 3rd but I suspect it will be fairly smooth.

Sorry to see BW server being off-limits somewhat extra but I'll just have to make do with the 21 characters rolled so far. The riddermark characters will simply have to move to Landy instead, if only to secure a few mithril coins. One name lost isn't all that worrisome.

[Thorgrum]

Can I get the name "Don Rickles" permanently assigned to me by chance? I'll pay up to 1000 TP for it.

[Schinderhannes]

Will there be an EU-testserver? (temporary or permanent)

[maartena]

It might be good to make the Rename token tradeable, so the loser can negotiate with the winner for their name.

I don't think this is a good idea... It will create economic problems with people trying to extort high prices from people willing to pay for a name, and those who are not caring about names but have 20 toons getting filthy rich.

[Gallantgirl]

On Gilrain, whether we are going to celebrate not moving or celebrate (with tears) moving- we'd like to hold a party event at the place our server is named for, The River Gilrain. Sadly it poses logistics issues as it's in Gondor and many people with only low level characters wouldnt' be able to travel. If anyone has a wonderful suggestion we'd surely love to hear it!
Many Thanks in advance!

[PoeticNightmare]

This in a nutshell. Haven't been able to stay on Riddermark for more than a few minutes at a time for over a year. Tried (ages ago, when West Gondor launched) to get back into the server. But the AH was dead and I had no one to play with, and was having a hard time soloing gear for myself. The quest rewards weren't doing it for me, and the option of questing with friends on the harder quests simply wasn't there.

Compared to Landroval. Booming AH industry, loads of people to call on if I get stuck, plenty of friendly chatter.

Landroval is exactly where I want to go. Did you find it that much more populated than Ridder? That's great news. I logged on to see the cosmetic weapon changes and went to the AH to buy some. There was literally nothing in one handed or two handed axes, no great swords, and 2 one handeed swords.

[Melkorjrrt]

i still havent seen anything regarding normal barter items on different toon. IE landscape, festival, trophy and crafting. as of now if you transfer to Bullroarer those items arent transferred. and all that is talked about is shared barters being tranferred. plz clarify.

[maartena]

i still havent seen anything regarding normal barter items on different toon. IE landscape, festival, trophy and crafting. as of now if you transfer to Bullroarer those items arent transferred. and all that is talked about is shared barters being tranferred. plz clarify.

Every item in your wallet will transfer over to the new server.

[Capt.Hunor]

Beginning August 3rd the service will be available for copying characters to the Bullroarer Test World and for free moves between the ten worlds (5 US and 5 EU) that will be remaining available after the end of this year. This is just the beginning of the process.

And EU also has the German and French worlds afaik.

I hope it will be:

1 EN RP
1 EN
1 DE
1 FR
Last one can be EN or DE RP as well I guess, I thought they had quite a playerbase?

1 EN RP
1 EN
1 last one can be EN
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3 Servers

Have you something that I not have? For example more then?;

[krypto182]

So after reading the article if I read the housing transfer thing correctly all my stuff goes into escrow I will have to completely redecorate my house from scratch just great I better start taking screenshots to make it easier.

[lockecd]

I am glad to hear this news, and so very happy I took the time to clean and clear out my bags, and banks. Should I move I didn't want to take any junk with me.

[Almagnus1]

Piecing together everything in the thread, if I want to end up on Brandywine with a free transfer, all I have to do is wait until transfers reopen to Brandywine, and for my server to be closed, correct?

[celticladywolf]

Agreed.

I have 11 characters on Withywindle plus a number of characters on Laurelin (5, I think). I assume Laurelin will be remaining, and that Withywindle will close. It would appear that if I transfer from Withywindle to another server (not Laurelin) I will only have the default slots on that server - would that be 6? I'd then either have to pay a second time for the slots those extra characters have already paid for, or split my "party" and move 5 of them to a different server. Even if I have any extra slots on Laurelin, the character names are mainly duplicated between the servers and I'd not want to have to change any, yet the number of servers being retained is so small I might not have any choice - especially as the EU players are even more restricted in this respect because of the French and German language servers. In any event, I wouldn't want to split my characters between different servers, they are my "party" and are mutually self-sufficient in terms of tradeskills etc.

If I have paid for 11 slots on Withywindle, then I should be entitled to access all 11 characters on the destination server of my choice, without any extra payment. If that means moving all of them to Laurelin and having say 16 slots in total (say I have 5 existing characters there plus 11 incoming), or moving all 11 characters to a different server and having 11 slots there, then that is how it should work. It's the same method that SOE applied when doing server mergers in EQ2 and I see no reason why it can't be done here. Under no circumstances should I have to pay extra to access characters which I am being forced to move. If I've paid once for the extra slots, I should not have to pay a second time for them.

The same principle should apply to both character slots and shared vault slots: what has been paid for on the closing server should be automatically applied on the destination server (in addition to any existing characters and shared vault slots on the destination server).

Lastly, can we please be told now which servers are affected. It is immensely frustrating to be told all the details of the transfer arrangements except the most important one - which servers are affected.

I don't understand what the uproar is about the character slots. If you bought 11 character slots, you have 11 character slots on each and every server...could you not just for example move the 5 Laurelin characters to another server and then have the slots free for the 11 Withywindle characters? I'm not trying to slight what you are feeling, just to understand the turmoil going on.

[celticladywolf]

Piecing together everything in the thread, if I want to end up on Brandywine with a free transfer, all I have to do is wait until transfers reopen to Brandywine, and for my server to be closed, correct?

Yes, that is how understand it as well.

[kickman77]

I don't understand what the uproar is about the character slots. If you bought 11 character slots, you have 11 character slots on each and every server...could you not just for example move the 5 Laurelin characters to another server and then have the slots free for the 11 Withywindle characters? I'm not trying to slight what you are feeling, just to understand the turmoil going on.

Because some people have multiple characters on multiple servers and being FORCED to consolidate them down (even though it may be a small portion of the community) we are ebing forced.

We understand we can keep our toons split, but some of us have multiple toons on multiple servers and are afraid there may be some overages... and to be forced to pay if that overage occurs does not seem fair or right especially if we are forced to move.

For instance...

I have 13 roons on Meneldor
5 on Arkenstone
5 and landroval

Now lets say for the sake of this Arkenstone is closing and Meneldor is closing (just theory and speculation here) that means I have 18 toons I need to move... If my Kin goes to landorval, and I want to follow, I am now forced to pay to unlock those slots or delete my toons or whatever.

So like I said, it is a small portion of the community but, we would just like an answer if they can offer a few more free slots for those that are leaving closing servers or offer a MAJOR discount on character slots/ We arent asking for the world on a platter just the ability to not lose access to our toons