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    Best Mini Shield lv100

    Basicly what the titles say, been looking for ages for a good mini shield at the normal loot list and the skraid lootlists. Currently using Greater Resolute Shield of Tactics which is equivalent to the one that drops in Helegrod Drake Wing (same stats and everything). I know one drops in Rift Skraids with fate and something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazen View Post
    Basicly what the titles say, been looking for ages for a good mini shield at the normal loot list and the skraid lootlists. Currently using Greater Resolute Shield of Tactics which is equivalent to the one that drops in Helegrod Drake Wing (same stats and everything). I know one drops in Rift Skraids with fate and something.
    I believe the Greater Resolute Shield of Tactics is currently the best pve shield in the game. Here is a list of some level 100 teal shields.


    Greater Resolute Shield of Tactics

    Armor - 1931, Critical Defense +1544, Will +239, Vit +205, Tactical Mastery +768, Critical Rating +614


    Shield of The Preserver (Drops from Eastern Gondor instances on T2)

    Armor - 1971, Critical Defense +1616, Will +252, Vit +216, Tactical Mastery +482, Fate +108


    Greater Resolute Shield of Fate

    Armor - 1931, Critical Defense +1544, Will +239, Vit +205, Tactical Mastery +461, Fate +102


    Greater Resolute Shield of Finesse

    Armor - 1931, Critical Defense +1544, Will +239, Vit +205, Critical Rating +461, Finesse +2811


    Greater Resolute Shield of Penetration

    Armor - 1931, Critical Defense +1544, Will +239, Vit +205, Tactical Mastery +461, Critical Rating +614, Finesse +937
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    Ty for the reply, I figured as much. I was hoping I somehow missed a shield that had max morale on it.
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    Sorry to necro a somewhat older thread, but i'm wondering if these shields still drop? I know that they got rid of some of the old loot tables for older instances, and i've run Northcotton Farm probably 15 times total, and haven't seen the shield drop. I've been running it at both 100 and 105.

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    105 northcotton farms drops the shield got mine on second run. unlucky much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuku View Post
    Sorry to necro a somewhat older thread, but i'm wondering if these shields still drop? I know that they got rid of some of the old loot tables for older instances, and i've run Northcotton Farm probably 15 times total, and haven't seen the shield drop. I've been running it at both 100 and 105.
    "Greater ..." is the actual U12.1 Loot Table, for all classic instances.
    At 105, there is also the "Shield of the Preserver" from T2 Osgiliath instances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuku View Post
    Sorry to necro a somewhat older thread, but i'm wondering if these shields still drop? I know that they got rid of some of the old loot tables for older instances, and i've run Northcotton Farm probably 15 times total, and haven't seen the shield drop. I've been running it at both 100 and 105.
    All shields that existed at 100 should have a 105 version that drops from the same instances set at level 105. I got my teal 105 tactics shield from NCF t1 105. It took me four tries. I did feel lucky to get it on my 4th try. I expected to have to run in over a dozen times.

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    I've always found it intersting how so many Minstrels swear Mastery is useless healing and then use the Mastery shields.

    The Finesse one is objectively best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    I've always found it intersting how so many Minstrels swear Mastery is useless healing and then use the Mastery shields.

    The Finesse one is objectively best.
    That's because finesse is completely useless in healing... Mastery has at least some use, not needed tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawbar View Post
    That's because finesse is completely useless in healing... Mastery has at least some use, not needed tho.
    When in healing it means you are trying to keep your group alive, correct? For example in Dome of Stars people need to interrupt the Door Wardens or the group gets hit with a massive AoE hit and a stun that can kill the group if the Door Warden gets his induction off, so by using Piercing cry to interrupt the Door Warden you are keeping your group alive, if that gets resisted and no other person in your group interrupts then squishy group members will die.

    Finesse can help in many ways, you can use your fear to fear an enemy away which is especially helpful in Ruined City T2C to fear the Harrowing Spirit away from the tank if the tank has built aggro over your heals so that AoE can be used, you can't do this if the Fear is resisted because of your low finesse.

    Also most Minstrels trait for the Cry/Call reset in Blue line because it resets Cry of the Chorus but if you want to help by doing a bit of DPS you can also utilize it to reset Piercing cry and Call of the second age, for instance you are in an AoE fight you use Call of the second age and cancel the long animation with Soliloquy of Spirit, Chord, Triumphant or Cry of the chorus and that will hit 50k+ and then the cry/call reset on healing skills procs and then you can do that same 50k+ hit again. Again you can't do all of this without Finesse.

    If you are healing in Yellow and try to use the -9% outgoing damage debuff but your ballads keep getting resisted, you need finesse.

    I could write a full on Essay why Finesse is needed on all classes in all lines just the majority of people don't play their class to the full extent of what is given to them hence why I never see out of kin Minstrels stacking 4x+ anthems (3x anthems from yellow and 1x for every other trait line you have bought) by trait swapping before a fight so they give 20k+ mastery and have Instant Bolster courage for 1 minute into a fight while in Blue and never see Yellow minstrels utilize the instant Bolster courage/IF combo for healing/buffing a group especially now that Anthem of composure stacking can overcap Resistance and Tactical Mitigation for the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawbar View Post
    That's because finesse is completely useless in healing... Mastery has at least some use, not needed tho.
    Invocation of Elbereth and Piercing Cry are extremely useful, unless you're a brainless bolster bot. Minstrel has arguably the single best interrupt in the game and can reset it, it's folly to neglect it.

    There's also some niche cases where it is useful, like debuffing Light Mitigation with Call of Earendil if you've a Warden in the group. I also like it b/c I use a swap for CotSA in the Moors to provide an AoE 20% Inc Healing debuff.

    And why wouldn't you stack some Finesse? To have 60k morale instead of just 55k? You effectively gain nothing from Morale after a point.

    Personally Finesse is one of the things I look for when deciding if a Minstrel is actually good/understands the nuances of the game, and the shields are always a dead give away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    Invocation of Elbereth and Piercing Cry are extremely useful, unless you're a brainless bolster bot. Minstrel has arguably the single best interrupt in the game and can reset it, it's folly to neglect it.

    There's also some niche cases where it is useful, like debuffing Light Mitigation with Call of Earendil if you've a Warden in the group. I also like it b/c I use a swap for CotSA in the Moors to provide an AoE 20% Inc Healing debuff.

    And why wouldn't you stack some Finesse? To have 60k morale instead of just 55k? You effectively gain nothing from Morale after a point.

    Personally Finesse is one of the things I look for when deciding if a Minstrel is actually good/understands the nuances of the game, and the shields are always a dead give away.
    lol what are u even talking about. first of all he is asking about pve, secondly even in pvp getting the shield with finesse is absolutely wasted stats since u get like what 700 finesse? lol great boost.
    get nothing with more morale? and you claim to play in ettens also? you are not that kind of guy i would invite in my group. heal me with finesse mate, definately helps when trying tou outheal 20 creeps dmging your 6man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evadar View Post
    lol what are u even talking about. first of all he is asking about pve, secondly even in pvp getting the shield with finesse is absolutely wasted stats since u get like what 700 finesse? lol great boost.
    get nothing with more morale? and you claim to play in ettens also? you are not that kind of guy i would invite in my group. heal me with finesse mate, definately helps when trying tou outheal 20 creeps dmging your 6man
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    Look upon the face of scrubbery and despair.

    The readiness to have an opinion and no facts, truly, the Lotro everyman.
    lol comming from a "minnie" with finesse lol. gotta penetrate that blue line skills mate rofl
    loved the Insults tho just shows u are a salty dude, who is going offensive mode because he knows he is wrong lol. build that finesse now little guy!
    just another m4d cuz b4d american situation

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    You're trying too hard.
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    though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope."

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    Look upon the face of scrubbery and despair.
    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    You're trying too hard.
    u wut bruh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evadar View Post
    lol what are u even talking about. first of all he is asking about pve, secondly even in pvp getting the shield with finesse is absolutely wasted stats since u get like what 700 finesse? lol great boost.
    get nothing with more morale? and you claim to play in ettens also? you are not that kind of guy i would invite in my group. heal me with finesse mate, definately helps when trying tou outheal 20 creeps dmging your 6man
    I use finesse for my distract, fear and PC even in PVE. It's especially useful in PVP for flexibility. The fact that you don't is fine but why mock others just because they've got a different opinion? Get a grip, "mate", he probably wouldn't want your group because your attitude takes more tolerance than most of us slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaniemooch View Post
    I use finesse for my distract, fear and PC even in PVE. It's especially useful in PVP for flexibility. The fact that you don't is fine but why mock others just because they've got a different opinion? Get a grip, "mate", he probably wouldn't want your group because your attitude takes more tolerance than most of us slot.
    i didnt insult anyone in my first post i said finesse is a wasted stat and saying otherwise just means you are an average minnie. wanna compare our stats, and Wartabs? i have healed worlds first OD at 65. server third kin bfe and flight at 85 and cleared all the instances first in server. do you really wanna play that game with me mate? compare who is the better minnie? lol 2k and 4k posts dont make you smarter, just another forum posting addictive with 90% negative contribution

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornWollis View Post
    When in healing it means you are trying to keep your group alive, correct? For example in Dome of Stars people need to interrupt the Door Wardens or the group gets hit with a massive AoE hit and a stun that can kill the group if the Door Warden gets his induction off, so by using Piercing cry to interrupt the Door Warden you are keeping your group alive, if that gets resisted and no other person in your group interrupts then squishy group members will die.

    Finesse can help in many ways, you can use your fear to fear an enemy away which is especially helpful in Ruined City T2C to fear the Harrowing Spirit away from the tank if the tank has built aggro over your heals so that AoE can be used, you can't do this if the Fear is resisted because of your low finesse.

    Also most Minstrels trait for the Cry/Call reset in Blue line because it resets Cry of the Chorus but if you want to help by doing a bit of DPS you can also utilize it to reset Piercing cry and Call of the second age, for instance you are in an AoE fight you use Call of the second age and cancel the long animation with Soliloquy of Spirit, Chord, Triumphant or Cry of the chorus and that will hit 50k+ and then the cry/call reset on healing skills procs and then you can do that same 50k+ hit again. Again you can't do all of this without Finesse.

    If you are healing in Yellow and try to use the -9% outgoing damage debuff but your ballads keep getting resisted, you need finesse.

    I could write a full on Essay why Finesse is needed on all classes in all lines just the majority of people don't play their class to the full extent of what is given to them hence why I never see out of kin Minstrels stacking 4x+ anthems (3x anthems from yellow and 1x for every other trait line you have bought) by trait swapping before a fight so they give 20k+ mastery and have Instant Bolster courage for 1 minute into a fight while in Blue and never see Yellow minstrels utilize the instant Bolster courage/IF combo for healing/buffing a group especially now that Anthem of composure stacking can overcap Resistance and Tactical Mitigation for the group.
    I don't agree with a lot in this post, and minis have the lowest resist rate in the game as it stands, but it is very interesting that anthems can stack 4+ times. This is clearly grey area and not intended, but interesting to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evadar View Post
    i didnt insult anyone in my first post i said finesse is a wasted stat and saying otherwise just means you are an average minnie. wanna compare our stats, and Wartabs? i have healed worlds first OD at 65. server third kin bfe and flight at 85 and cleared all the instances first in server. do you really wanna play that game with me mate? compare who is the better minnie? lol 2k and 4k posts dont make you smarter, just another forum posting addictive with 90% negative contribution
    My post count comes from Player Council and HD beta forums. I've never played the post count card but whatever floats your boat, "mate".

    Glad you listed your accomplishments. They must make you feel good to see them in print.
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    To all the "finesse is important" posters; Ofc I use finesse in yellow, or switch to a finesse piece when needed in blue.
    But why o why do get very very little resists with 0 finesse? Please explain me cause that's why I don't use it in blue (and no, I'm not a bc spammer).
    Ballads, cries, fears etc. seems to hit anyway. With or without finesse no difference to me, even with high finesse ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawbar View Post
    To all the "finesse is important" posters; Ofc I use finesse in yellow, or switch to a finesse piece when needed in blue.
    But why o why do get very very little resists with 0 finesse? Please explain me cause that's why I don't use it in blue (and no, I'm not a bc spammer).
    Ballads, cries, fears etc. seems to hit anyway. With or without finesse no difference to me, even with high finesse ratings.
    I use a couple swap pieces in blue. Without them I seem to have a somewhat high number of resists for distraction, although it could be random as well since it doesn't seem to be a consistent result.
    I'd explain it to you, but I'm all out of Puppets and Crayons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaniemooch View Post
    I use a couple swap pieces in blue. Without them I seem to have a somewhat high number of resists for distraction, although it could be random as well since it doesn't seem to be a consistent result.
    so u need finesse to distract? you know there is a book legacy for that right? which you can use on the anthem books? lol

 

 

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