World Transfers

[cdq1958]

From only two servers? WOW.

Not really, to me. I did three sets of transfers.

[GRiella]

Question. Why can we move only to Palantir? Isn't that a private server?

[Wirbel]

Question. Why can we move only to Palantir? Isn't that a private server?

If you are moving from El or Estel, you can choose the remaining worlds for a destination. Palantir is listed for copy, not move.

[GRiella]

If you are moving from El or Estel, you can choose the remaining worlds for a destination. Palantir is listed for copy, not move.

Ah, I see. Thank you. About Estel. Does anyone know when will we be able to move from Estel. From what I understand, after reading the announcement it should have been alongside with El and yet no sight of it in transfer. :/

[maartena]

Ah, I see. Thank you. About Estel. Does anyone know when will we be able to move from Estel. From what I understand, after reading the announcement it should have been alongside with El and yet no sight of it in transfer. :/

You should have been able to move from Estel since last Monday the 14th of September. If you have characters on Estel but no transfer button on your client, I would contact Turbine support.

[Wirbel]

Ah, I see. Thank you. About Estel. Does anyone know when will we be able to move from Estel. From what I understand, after reading the announcement it should have been alongside with El and yet no sight of it in transfer. :/

Check that you are on the right account, too.

[HeirOfNumenor]

Perhaps transfers might be faster if the new datacenter hardware was already in place, yes?

[Vovo]

I opened the transfer window to see all of the worlds listed! This surprised me.

Ever curious, I chose one of my worlds to transfer, and then checked the boxes for character name and shared items etc.

On the page where the 'remaining worlds' are usually listed, there was only Palantir listed.

Is this a bug? or have I missed an important announcement?

I see other posts on this verrry long thread accept this as normal. I've seen no announcement, so it doesn't seem normal to me. Is it some special case, for people in the Palantir Club?

Or does Turbine want those of us with Bullroarer loaded to test something?

[RJFerret]

That'll cause a LOT of confusion if it remains that way this weekend. I see the same.

[maartena]

That is confusing indeed.

If you are a member of the private Palantir Preview Program, you should see the copy to Palantir. Everyone else should not. Since the transfer button does not appear until AFTER you have logged in, it should be easy to flag who has, and who has no rights to see the PPP copy. With all the transfers going on right now this will confuse people.

Turn it off, or make it so only PPP members will actually see it.

[RJFerret]

We had to put the MoTD in kin as "We can NOT transfer yet" as EVERYONE logging in was first saying "we can transfer now, our server is in the list" before even salutations. Confusion reigns. :-(

[Agamur]

I logged in today and I checked the transfer button like every other day since I see it, today I saw all my characters on all servers. When I went through the process of moving my only character from Snowbourn to Palantir I restarted my launcher after receiving an email confirmation about the successful transfer, but when I logged in to Snowbourn I found out my character is still there... How is that possible?! Did I miss something about the Palantir server?

[GRiella]

You should have been able to move from Estel since last Monday the 14th of September. If you have characters on Estel but no transfer button on your client, I would contact Turbine support.

Check that you are on the right account, too.

Ah! >.< Sorry, I mistook Estel (where I indeed don't have charas) with Eldar (where I do). Very sorry for that. ^^;

I logged in today and I checked the transfer button like every other day since I see it, today I saw all my characters on all servers. When I went through the process of moving my only character from Snowbourn to Palantir I restarted my launcher after receiving an email confirmation about the successful transfer, but when I logged in to Snowbourn I found out my character is still there... How is that possible?! Did I miss something about the Palantir server?

I think it's because it's copy only and not move. At last that what I've been told a little bit above.

[Adrial]

Overall the process has been going very well. Thousands of transfers have been completed without issue since Monday without issue. We did see the transfers taking longer than expected during peak traffic and the team is looking into ways we can optimize this further. The only other surprise was the longer than normal forum bans that came with the process. We are also looking at ways we can try to resolve this as well.

Beyond the above listed there were no other issues we did not know about from a technical standpoint. There were a small number of transfer failures, but we knew that in some rare cases this would occur and our CS team is working to help anyone who runs into an issue.

Once we get through the weekend and have a chance to analyze the data, we will have more information.

So this means that there is hope that one of my husband's toons, a fellow kinmate's toon, and one of mine will eventually make it to Landy. Right?

[maartena]

I logged in today and I checked the transfer button like every other day since I see it, today I saw all my characters on all servers. When I went through the process of moving my only character from Snowbourn to Palantir I restarted my launcher after receiving an email confirmation about the successful transfer, but when I logged in to Snowbourn I found out my character is still there... How is that possible?! Did I miss something about the Palantir server?

Did you happen to notice that the Palantir server was listed under the "COPY" section, not the "MOVE" section?

Bullroarer and Palantir are copy only, they are used for beta testing. Bullroarer is for public testing, Palantir for private testing. I don't know why it shows up for everyone right now, as it is very confusing....

[Adrial]

And yes, my toon is now safely on Landy. My email just updated right after I posted this. Now to rename him. I'm glad I have some time to work on this because I can't think of a new name right now.

[Montezuma's]

I can't move any my characters from US or EU servers. Only Palantir shows up as available world.

[Karlakachel]

Same here, very confusing, since some ppl in the wolrd Chat (Eldar) are telling us the ransfer works fine....one only needs to be able to read...( a typical Troll ansfer). Checked a few times now but the only available world to copy to is Palantir and no world to move to shows up.

[dori_bolger]

Why all the mystery. It would be nice if Turbine announced when they do something like this.

[Wirbel]

I can't move any my characters from US or EU servers. Only Palantir shows up as available world.

Same here, very confusing, since some ppl in the wolrd Chat (Eldar) are telling us the ransfer works fine....one only needs to be able to read...( a typical Troll ansfer). Checked a few times now but the only available world to copy to is Palantir and no world to move to shows up.

Why all the mystery. It would be nice if Turbine announced when they do something like this.

Only transfers are from Estel and Elendelmir, at the moment.

IGNORE Palantir. It is not a move destination.

[Brenics]

So when can I move my characters to another server.Only see Palantir server to copy too?

[ChromiteSwiftpaw]

So when can I move my characters to another server.Only see Palantir server to copy too?

When they announce that your server is available for transfers.

You don't want to copy your characters, you want to move them.

[Brenics]

When they announce that your server is available for transfers.

You don't want to copy your characters, you want to move them.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Aedelric2]

Turbine has stated that remaining accounts on closing worlds will be available indefinitely
This implies there is no current schedule to permanently close the "closing" worlds. You wont be able to play on them, I guess, but only transfer from them.

Logically they'll wait to see how transfers go this weekend when the weekend crowd is here, then figure out what to do after that, whether to close all transfers and design a new system, whether to open up the next world to transfers, whether to post a schedule, whether to open up the next few worlds, whether to stop transfers of a previous while a next is doing their rush/overload, etc.

The process literally just began a few days ago, they'll need results before any extended plan can be made, or it's just a waste of time/energy/embarrassing when the plan has to be thrown out due to results/better plans.

There's a reason they haven't released a schedule beyond just saying it's all taking place in September, October, November and beyond. If things go to Mordor, then they have all the time in the world to fix things and can point back saying, "We told you these months and everything, we made no promises beyond that." lol

I bet they will leave it open on servers that have already gone. Estel is a ghost town; nearly everyone has transferred already (some are leaving alts around until the very end). I bet that trend continues with the others, so leaving it open won't add to traffic meaningfully as they open new servers. Just a guess though.

Apologies for not phrasing my question clearly. I know that the data on the “closing” worlds will be available indefinitely. However, they will be “closed” in the sense that they, for all intents and purposes, will not be playable.

My point is Turbine has stated the following:
“Look over the list or remaining worlds, choose the world that is right for your Kinship, and choose a date for your Kinship to move.” https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articl...transfer-guide

It is kinda hard to choose a date when they haven’t fully defined the parameters that we have to work within. I understand that this process is experimental to some extent and will remain so until the end (which is why I was requesting “tentative” dates), but I would have thought that they would have already worked out most of the kinks when they were testing the transfers using Bullroarer. I would also expect Turbine to know the population of their own servers as well as how much of that population is “active” (They have to have some kind of data for this otherwise closing servers was a blind move). All of that coupled with the fact they told us to pick a date back in the beginning of August, I don’t think asking for an estimated timeline once the transfer process has already begun, almost mid-September, is unreasonable.

I can see your point about keeping the servers open, but I think that only transferring a pair of servers at a time simplifies things a lot for Turbine in the event that something does go wrong.
So as far as I can tell my questions for Turbine still stand...

1. Could we please get a more detailed but estimated timeline for transfers?
2. Will transfers for previous pairs of worlds still be functional after moving on to the next pair or will the transfers for the previous pair be suspended?

[RJFerret]

1. Could we please get a more detailed but estimated timeline for transfers?

No, we can't. More specific than my prior reply which you quoted, but the same message, we now have this info substantiating it posted a couple hours ago:

That means we have not set an exact schedule and will base it off of many things including analyzing the data from this round, what wee feel the servers can handle, and a couple other factors. We will have more information for everyone on transfers next week. I can say that new worlds will not be open for transfers next week.

IE, the request remains premature as there isn't info to work with to generate an estimate yet. That work will be done next week apparently.