World Transfers

[AllySanders]

I've been keeping up with this thread, but with 92 pages to sort through.....

what was the latest word on whether or not Turbine was going to open transfers again between remaining worlds? I had thought that the last posting I saw on the subject said that there would be one last free transfer of some sort between the remaining worlds - something along the lines of 1 transfer to a new world but after that paid, but the other night in world chat, someone insisted that was not the case, that they had heard in a podcast by Frelorn that all transfers between remaining worlds would be paid only from now on.

So is my hazy memory on the subject somewhere in the vicinity of what was said, or is it official that if you are on a remaining world, you're stuck there?

[Urwendil]

I've been keeping up with this thread, but with 92 pages to sort through.....

what was the latest word on whether or not Turbine was going to open transfers again between remaining worlds?

This: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...t=#post7449304

[Mar-Evayave]

Only if you pay for it...... *evil laugh*

More than willing. Nothing else to spend my TP on.

[clay9300]

I would like transfer toons from Snowbourne and Vanyar (currently European servers) to one of the North American servers.
Can I do this during the server changes?
or Can I pay to have this type tranfer done?

[maartena]

I would like transfer toons from Snowbourne and Vanyar (currently European servers) to one of the North American servers.
Can I do this during the server changes?
or Can I pay to have this type tranfer done?

Nope. Due to technical limitations that exist (database duplicate ID issues) transfers between European and American servers is currently impossible.

[Urwendil]

I would like transfer toons from Snowbourne and Vanyar (currently European servers) to one of the North American servers.
Can I do this during the server changes?
or Can I pay to have this type tranfer done?

Unfortunately no & no per: https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-transfers (see under "Region Transfer").

[the_antisocial_hermit]

I would like transfer toons from Snowbourne and Vanyar (currently European servers) to one of the North American servers.
Can I do this during the server changes?
or Can I pay to have this type tranfer done?

No. This type of transfer is not possible due to the way the data of the two databases were originally done (Turbine and Codemasters). There are some longer explanations about exactly why it is not possible (using the same character ID range and how there are so many ID's tying in character's achievements, etc.) a couple of times in this thread, but I don't remember exactly where they are, or I'd link/state a page number. Basically, it would require a lot more work, money and downtime than is worthwhile.

ETA: Two more were much faster than I! One even with a link.

[EB64]

I log in every evening to check the transfers window to see if they opened transfers from Nimrodel early and just failed to announce it...
Sadly, every evening I'm disappointed...

[Vovo]

I've been keeping up with this thread, but with 92 pages to sort through.....

what was the latest word on whether or not Turbine was going to open transfers again between remaining worlds? I had thought that the last posting I saw on the subject said that there would be one last free transfer of some sort between the remaining worlds - something along the lines of 1 transfer to a new world but after that paid, but the other night in world chat, someone insisted that was not the case, that they had heard in a podcast by Frelorn that all transfers between remaining worlds would be paid only from now on.

So is my hazy memory on the subject somewhere in the vicinity of what was said, or is it official that if you are on a remaining world, you're stuck there?

This is the advice that I've been working with:

Aug 26 2015, 11:42 PM Vyvyanne Executive Producer

World Transfer Status Update 8-26-2015

For those concerned about the free transfer timeline between remaining worlds that we originally set to end on October 1st, we are adjusting this plan. We will no longer have a time frame for free transfers, but are instead working out a way for everyone to have a chance to change their mind on their destination server once before having to pay to do so again.

[Vovo]

I log in every evening to check the transfers window to see if they opened transfers from Nimrodel early and just failed to announce it... Sadly, every evening I'm disappointed...

I read (on the previous page) the following:

Today, 05:17 AM maartena
New servers announced by Vyvyanne!

World transfers off of Eldar will be available on October 5th.
World transfers off of Firefoot will be available October 6th.

So it would seem they continuing with 1 EU and 1 US per week.....

As you are interested in Nimrodel, you might find Maartena's post (albeit unofficial) interesting. But I do recall at some point, in the recent past, being told officially that depending on technical success or hurdles the timetable may speed up or not .

[Vovo]

I would like transfer toons from Snowbourne and Vanyar (currently European servers) to one of the North American servers.
Can I do this during the server changes? or Can I pay to have this type tranfer done?

The official word on transfers between regions:

Jan 31 2015, 01:49 AM Vyvyanne

New Transfer Features...

Region transfers: Existing characters on EU and US worlds will have a data conflict moving to a different region, so we are only able to support transfers of characters from an EU world to another EU world and US to US.

[Aedelric2]

Tentative, completely made up non official, I-will-not-be-held-to-it, suggestive, potential possible schedule based on the above:

Eldar (EU): Oct 5th.
Firefoot (US): Oct 6th.

Anduin (EU): Oct 12th.
Nimrodel (US): Oct 13th.

Morthond (EU): Oct 19th.
Windfola (US): Oct 20th.

Maiar (EU): Oct 26th.
Imladris (US): Oct 27th.

Vanyar (EU): Nov 2nd.
Dwarrowdelf (US): Nov 3d.

Withywindle: (EU) Nov. 9th
Silverlode (US): Nov. 10th

Snowbourn: (EU) Nov 16th
Vilya (US): Nov 17th

Meneldor (US): Nov 23d. (Monday).

I came up with a potential, suggestive, unofficial, made-up, speculative (am I clear enough) schedule, based on 1 week per world on each geographical side:

Sep. 14th 2015: Elendilmir (US), Estel (EU)
Sep. 21st 2015: Riddermark (US), Gilrain (EU)
Sep. 28th 2015: Firefoot (US), Eldar (EU)
Oct. 5th 2015: Nimrodel (US), Anduin (EU)
Oct. 12th 2015: Windfola (US), Morthond (EU)
Oct. 17th 2015: Imladris (US), Maiar (EU)
Oct. 26th 2015: Dwarrowdelf (US), Vanyar (EU)
Nov. 2nd 2015: Silverlode (US), Withywindle (EU)
Nov. 9th 2015: Vilya (US), Snowbourn (EU)
Nov. 16th 2015: Meneldor (US).

That would mean we would be complete before Thanksgiving.

Oh Maartena, didn't you learn from the first time? Better not mention Thanksgiving this time around or we will have the greatest war this age has ever seen since the Battle of the Five Armies.

[Marancil]

Na, I wont mess with that again....

Soon I will target the US date standards. But in another thread.

Happy to see news about Firefoot, in fact so happy I included it in my signature for all to see.

[The-Eragon]

Hello, all!
I just had a few questions about problems I am experiencing with the LOTRO World Transfers.
First off, I heard that LOTRO sent out an email to all users about the World Transfers, I was currently on a unusable email account, so I changed it to my email account but I didn't get the email from LOTRO. Is it important? Do I need it? Either way could I please get a resend if possible?
Secondly, I learned out the LOTRO Worlds Transfers about a month ago (it's October 1st) and I was pretty excited, I have tried to do the Transfer every single day since the button appeared and it would come up but didn't show any available worlds for me to Transfer from, but I watched a show on YouTube of a guy Transferring from some of the worlds I have. Is this a glitch? Is something wrong with my account? Do I need the email? Or are the Transfers not ready yet, and on that condition how did this guy do it?
Please help.

[maartena]

Hello, all!
I just had a few questions about problems I am experiencing with the LOTRO World Transfers.
First off, I heard that LOTRO sent out an email to all users about the World Transfers, I was currently on a unusable email account, so I changed it to my email account but I didn't get the email from LOTRO. Is it important? Do I need it? Either way could I please get a resend if possible?

It's not important. It was just an announcement to make sure people that have not logged on to the game or have been disconnected from the game altogether for a while have a chance to log back on and transfer. Since you already know, you are active, and you are here.... there isn't any information in the email that you don't already know.

Secondly, I learned out the LOTRO Worlds Transfers about a month ago (it's October 1st) and I was pretty excited, I have tried to do the Transfer every single day since the button appeared and it would come up but didn't show any available worlds for me to Transfer from, but I watched a show on YouTube of a guy Transferring from some of the worlds I have. Is this a glitch? Is something wrong with my account? Do I need the email? Or are the Transfers not ready yet, and on that condition how did this guy do it?
Please help.

You are probably on a server that is currently not open for transfers. Currently only 4 servers are open (Gilrain, Riddermark, Elendilmir, Estel), and 2 more will be added next week (Eldar, Firefoot).
Transfers between the remaining 5+5 servers will not be available until after the hardware upgrades, probably some time early december. ("late fall" is the only info we have on that).

[HeirOfNumenor]

("late fall" is the only info we have on that).

The definition of "late Fall" according to Turbine is unknown at this time - even to Turbine...


(sorry Maartena - I couldn't resist )

[maartena]

The definition of "late Fall" according to Turbine is unknown at this time - even to Turbine...


(sorry Maartena - I couldn't resist )

Everything turbine will happen EXACTLY confirm the timeframe presented in my signature. Although it COULD be "soonish" or "soonerish" instead, depending on how "soon" they define "soon".

[Wirbel]

Hello, all!
I just had a few questions about problems I am experiencing with the LOTRO World Transfers.
First off, I heard that LOTRO sent out an email to all users about the World Transfers, I was currently on a unusable email account, so I changed it to my email account but I didn't get the email from LOTRO. Is it important? Do I need it? Either way could I please get a resend if possible?
Secondly, I learned out the LOTRO Worlds Transfers about a month ago (it's October 1st) and I was pretty excited, I have tried to do the Transfer every single day since the button appeared and it would come up but didn't show any available worlds for me to Transfer from, but I watched a show on YouTube of a guy Transferring from some of the worlds I have. Is this a glitch? Is something wrong with my account? Do I need the email? Or are the Transfers not ready yet, and on that condition how did this guy do it?
Please help.

Also, if you have characters on the remaining worlds, you may want to have them all logged in recently to protect your names from immigrants.

[The-Eragon]

You are probably on a server that is currently not open for transfers. Currently only 4 servers are open (Gilrain, Riddermark, Elendilmir, Estel), and 2 more will be added next week (Eldar, Firefoot).
Transfers between the remaining 5+5 servers will not be available until after the hardware upgrades, probably some time early december. ("late fall" is the only info we have on that).

Actually, the guy I watched Transfer went from Landroval to Arkenstone, I tried the same thing but it didn't work.
I know that the four worlds you mentioned are available for Transfer, but how did this guy go from Landroval to Arkenstone? It doesn't work for me.

[Vovo]

Actually, the guy I watched Transfer went from Landroval to Arkenstone, I tried the same thing but it didn't work.
I know that the four worlds you mentioned are available for Transfer, but how did this guy go from Landroval to Arkenstone? It doesn't work for me.

Transfers between remaining worlds were open for transfer, but are currently not open for transfer. Please read the following:

Aug 20 2015, 01:26 AM Vyvyanne Executive Producer

Transfers Begin today for the Remaining Worlds! 8/19/2015

Today the new transfer process officially begins!

With the patch that has gone live this morning, we have made transfers available to players moving between the following worlds. We will be starting with opening the remaining EU world transfers this morning and then will move to remaining US worlds this afternoon.
EU: Laurelin, Gwaihir, Sirannon, Evernight, Belegaer
US: Brandywine (off world only), Gladden, Landroval, Crickhollow, Arkenstone

Transfers between these worlds will be free until October 1st. Transfers to Brandywine are currently not available, but we do intend to make them available in the coming months.

We will be opening transfers off of the closing worlds starting in the next few weeks based off the performance of this initial set.

For details and FAQ regarding the new transfer process and world closures, please see the following article: https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/world-transfers

Thank you,
Athena “Vyvyanne” Peters
Executive Producer”

After the initial transfers took place, another announcement was made; and I have highlighted an important part that relates to your query:

Aug 26 2015, 11:42 PM Vyvyanne Executive Producer

World Transfer Status Update 8-26-2015

First I want to thank everyone who participated in the initial transfers that occurred last week. Due to some unrelated connection issues we had to turn of the service after only a short couple days and before we could really kick off US transfers, but in that time we received a lot of data that will help us improve the service even more. If you attempted a transfer last week and encountered any issues, please open a ticket with Customer Support and they should be able to help you out.

We are releaseing a patch this morning with the improvements and at that time we will open up the service for 48 hours for the 5 Remaining US worlds: Arkenstone, Crickhollow, Landroval, Gladden and Brandywine (off world only) to shuffle among themselves. The service will then be turned off again Friday morning as we assess the data and wait for some of the new hardware effort to catch up to our transfer progress.

Currently we expect the new hardware and data center to be available for public testing on Bullroarer in early September and are planning an event around that. More info as we get closer.

In mid-September to Early October we expect to start open transfers off of the closing worlds to the remaining worlds. We will begin with the smaller population worlds so as not to tax the old hardware as we transition to the new but still allowing those on the quiet worlds to start getting to know their new communities. In the October to November time frame is when we expect to be able to do the full switch over to the new hardware and data center for everyone and turn on transfers across all worlds. Please note this is our current timeline and is subject to change based on other delays that may occur during build out.

For those concerned about the free transfer timeline between remaining worlds that we originally set to end on October 1st, we are adjusting this plan. We will no longer have a time frame for free transfers, but are instead working out a way for everyone to have a chance to change their mind on their destination server once before having to pay to do so again.

So once again I want to thank everyone for their patience. This is a monumental task to undertake and we are making every effort to ensure it goes as smoothly as possible, but in order to do that sometimes it means taking pauses or delays in schedule. And this is only the largest of the upgrades we are working on for this year! You should be getting eyes on our new in-game storefront in the coming months as well as a new website coming in the months following that! So many shiny new updates for Lord of The Rings Online coming up both in-game and out, so stay tuned.

Cheers,
Athena “Vyvyanne” Peters
Executive Producer

[maartena]

Actually, the guy I watched Transfer went from Landroval to Arkenstone, I tried the same thing but it didn't work.
I know that the four worlds you mentioned are available for Transfer, but how did this guy go from Landroval to Arkenstone? It doesn't work for me.

There was a period of 48 hours where transfers between the 5 remaining worlds were allowed, but they have since closed that. You will have to wait a while before they open up again.

[HeirOfNumenor]

We will be reopening transfers between remaining worlds after we are on the new hardware. We expect this work to be done towards the end of the Fall.

For those wondering when they can transfer between the surviving worlds on their own respective side of the Atlantic....

[Galwing]

Hello,
I don't know if I'm in the right place with my post...I was searching and couldn't find anything about..it has to do with transfer so I try here...
Is it normal that nothing stacks when transferring shared storage? I have, for example, one new burgundy dye and 4 existing burgundy dyes in my storage and they just won't stack. Nothing does, may it be crafting materials, food, boost items or whatever else, it doesn't stack. I took Adamants out of storage and they didn't stack with the ones in my bag neither. Now I have a terrible overfilled shared storage with loads and loads of duplicates...
Is it a bug that will be fixed or is it just me and I have to live with it? Please let it be the first!!!
Thanks

[Aedelric2]

Hello,
I don't know if I'm in the right place with my post...I was searching and couldn't find anything about..it has to do with transfer so I try here...
Is it normal that nothing stacks when transferring shared storage? I have, for example, one new burgundy dye and 4 existing burgundy dyes in my storage and they just won't stack. Nothing does, may it be crafting materials, food, boost items or whatever else, it doesn't stack. I took Adamants out of storage and they didn't stack with the ones in my bag neither. Now I have a terrible overfilled shared storage with loads and loads of duplicates...
Is it a bug that will be fixed or is it just me and I have to live with it? Please let it be the first!!!
Thanks

Last I heard, it is normal. I don't know if it will get fixed or not. Fingers crossed.

[Giron]

The definition of "late Fall" according to Turbine is unknown at this time - even to Turbine...


(sorry Maartena - I couldn't resist )

Just to mess things upp, I think we should use the Swedish (and Finnish) definition. No set dates, it all depends on the temperature

From Wikipedia:

"In Sweden and Finland, meteorologists use a non-calendar based definition for the seasons based on the temperature. Spring begins when the daily averaged temperature permanently rises above 0 °C, summer begins when the temperature permanently rises above +10 °C, summer ends when the temperature permanently falls below +10 °C and winter begins when the temperature permanently falls below 0 °C. "Permanently" here means that the daily averaged temperature has remained above or below the limit for seven consecutive days. This implies two things: first, the seasons do not begin at fixed dates but must be determined by observation and are known only after the fact; and second, a new season begins at different dates in different parts of the country."