Release Notes U17!

[Tirian-Hammerfist]

No skirm camp in Minas Tirith? That's a silly oversight!

[bucko39]

Update 17 is live

[GithlithMonaghan]

Didn't find a fix for the broken eagle-rez (what's broken is that the eagle doesn't rez - ever). It's been a year since it's been broken I believe. Has it been fixed, yet not mentioned?

[Arbor]

No skirm camp in Minas Tirith? That's a silly oversight!

Skirmish Camp is in the Training Grounds

[Tirian-Hammerfist]

Skirmish Camp is in the Training Grounds

Excellent! Although this should show up on the map - I filtered for barterers on the Minas Tirith map, and none showed up aside from those at the front gate.

[matalan]

Any unique loot drops to look out for in the two new epic battles? I can understand if bluenames don't want to spoil anything, but knowing may be nice

[ainor]

Didn't find a fix for the broken eagle-rez (what's broken is that the eagle doesn't rez - ever). It's been a year since it's been broken I believe. Has it been fixed, yet not mentioned?

I created a thread in the BR forums about the many Lore-master buggs, asking if any of them would be fixed in U17. I specificly mentioned Sacrifice (the eagle rez) and Enfeeble but also some other buggs. All of these buggs have been around for about 1-2 years. During this time they have had no fix and not even a comment from the devs. I'm not even sure if they are aware of them.

The replies to this thread from other LM's were embarrassingly few. So few that I honestly think that most LM's have left lotro already, and the ones still around don't care about buggs, at least not enough to visit the forums.

@Vyvyanne:
Could you please ask the non existent LM dev if these buggs will ever get fixed? Are you aware that some of these buggs have existed for 1-2 years? I would very much like to know this.

[Iris_Piperylie]

Finally!! some good treats in this update!

Thank you for:
raising the crafting item stack maximum to 500. Cooks and farmers have needed this for years!
allowing all levels to gather crafting materials while mounted. Although it doesn't make sense, it is a time saver and a way to make a quick getaway when gathering resources in dangerous zones.
making the checkbox to disable combat music. It never felt heroic hearing the combat music when fighting a bug or rat.

Not sure about the other things mentioned in the release notes but these three so far are long-awaited and it is nice to see them put into the game.

[BangoTwinkletoes]

No skirm camp in Minas Tirith? That's a silly oversight!

Perhaps they're still working on the "In the middle of a bloody great siege by the hosts of Mordor" camp

[Evelwyn]

Suggestion. I am getting pretty tired on having to click away from processed items after processing them. Like destroying weapon racks. I destroy one and it is still highlighted, and I double click on a ranged skill to hit the nearest baddie and: nothing happens.

[Tom58]

they knew there was going to be video issues with this release but they release anyway. I have tried to play this new area and every 5-10 mins it freezes up I have to ctrl alt delet to get out of this game. FIX IT TURBINE or dont release any new junk

[maartena]

It is not a memory leak, it is just a really large area with a lot of high detail. We are looking into creative ways to reduce the client memory footprint without compromising on the grandeur of the city, but we did not want to hold the experience back in the meantime. Reduced graphics settings will help if you run into the problem. Not the best solution, I know, but it is a major challenge with an epic city like this.

I know a 32-bit client can only run on 2 GB of memory. Since pretty much all PC's that were sold since Lotro even began are capable of 64-bit, perhaps a 64-bit version of the client/executables can be developed? Then the application can award more memory to itself.

[cdq1958]

I know a 32-bit client can only run on 2 GB of memory. Since pretty much all PC's that were sold since Lotro even began are capable of 64-bit, perhaps a 64-bit version of the client/executables can be developed? Then the application can award more memory to itself.

If I am not mistaken, a 32 bit client that is large address aware can use a 3GB virtual address space on a 64 bit host operating system with no issues. The client is that, for you can adjust the userva variable on 32 bit hosts to give it up to 3GB virtual address space. The one time I had a crash during the beta was when the client reached that 3GB user virtual address space. I reported it.

That said, I believe that they need to tweak their texture memory caching algorithm.

[spelunker]

It is not a memory leak, it is just a really large area with a lot of high detail. We are looking into creative ways to reduce the client memory footprint without compromising on the grandeur of the city, but we did not want to hold the experience back in the meantime. Reduced graphics settings will help if you run into the problem. Not the best solution, I know, but it is a major challenge with an epic city like this.

Its downright painful to out read the EP more or less admitting they rushed an update.

[Thurallor]

If I am not mistaken, a 32 bit client that is large address aware can use a 3GB virtual address space on a 64 bit host operating system with no issues. The client is that, for you can adjust the userva variable on 32 bit hosts to give it up to 3GB virtual address space. The one time I had a crash during the beta was when the client reached that 3GB user virtual address space. I reported it.

That said, I believe that they need to tweak their texture memory caching algorithm.

I think it's actually a 4-GB limit. But the limit is per-process. So Turbine engineers theoretically could split the application into two processes to circumvent the limit. Of course that would require significant redesign effort since the two processes would have to communicate without sharing an address space.

[Daniyel]

It is not a memory leak, it is just a really large area with a lot of high detail. We are looking into creative ways to reduce the client memory footprint without compromising on the grandeur of the city, but we did not want to hold the experience back in the meantime. Reduced graphics settings will help if you run into the problem. Not the best solution, I know, but it is a major challenge with an epic city like this.

a 64-bit version of the client?