Quote Originally Posted by DiogoVP View Post
Things have derailed since U16 and U17 just came to make things even worse.

Besides the grind we have for essences and morgul crests, any newbie lvl 100 player will also grind for virtues, class trait points, scrolls of empowerment, star-lit crystals, gold epic battle jewelleries.

To have 79 class trait points, a player will literally need to complete all the deeds of Old Anorien, which means that he'll spend quite some time to get it...

For the gold epic battle jewelleries he'll be spending dozens of hours to get the gold jewelleries.

Now players need an average of 85 ASOEs per LI, which is 190 if you have two LIs, (but we know that there are players that have more than 2 LIs, specially if they are guardians or minstrels).

We all need an average of 10 Crystals per LI, which is at least 20 per toon.

All of that wouldn't be a problem if the prices for 85 ASOEs and Crystals weren't so inflated.

This grind is absolutely unfriendly to the players that like to gear up multiple alts and newbie lvl 100 players.

I absolutely reccomend reading this thread before posting here, if you haven't done it yet:
There is NO pve content in this game that requires any player to undergo that degree of grind to it's fullest extent. All instanced group content can be accessed at lower levels (if necessary at T1) in order to experience it and even on level it is just not necessary to through all of that above. The only exception being pvp but quite honestly who on earth would spend all the above to play a sub-standard pvmp addon to what is a pve game. What you've described above is just a path for to obtaining ePeen and phat l00tz bragging for the l337 kids. Also with U17, a player with master T10 crafting and a fat wallet full of gold can pretty much obtain all they need from the market to kit themselves in armour, jewellery, essences, offhand and LIs. The store provides even more opportunity for shortcuts - store purchased legacy tier scrolls, crystals plus of course the ability to sell a couple of GotV tokens for 8k plus gold or whatever the going rate is but use of the store is not necessary.

Now, the U17 quest design is grindy and a player cannot avoid that without forgoing the content completely and so that is an issue. But gear grind is no different from my teenage daughter complaining that she must have several hundred quid so she can buy the latest over-priced designer labelled whatever when something similar from Primark will do just as well - but I won't be telling her that!!