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  1. #1
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    Unhappy Weaver lack of responsiveness ?

    I haven't play my Weaver for a long time but now i see they are soo long delays between 2 skills ?

    Those idle states are back more than ever between skills (120 ms latency here), why the worst on the spider weaver ?

    I suppose everyone just gave up hoping for better responsiveness of their skills but when it comes to more than 1 sec, it's barely playable ^^

    Waiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valgalad View Post
    I haven't play my Weaver for a long time but now i see they are soo long delays between 2 skills ?

    Those idle states are back more than ever between skills (120 ms latency here), why the worst on the spider weaver ?

    I suppose everyone just gave up hoping for better responsiveness of their skills but when it comes to more than 1 sec, it's barely playable ^^

    Waiting...
    "Haven't played my weaver for a long time" ruined any chances of normal responce you might have gotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valgalad View Post
    I haven't play my Weaver for a long time but now i see they are soo long delays between 2 skills ?

    Those idle states are back more than ever between skills (120 ms latency here), why the worst on the spider weaver ?

    I suppose everyone just gave up hoping for better responsiveness of their skills but when it comes to more than 1 sec, it's barely playable ^^

    Waiting...
    The game is currently a piece of #### , ..
    Turbine moved data centers , supposedly to new hardware and since then nothing works.
    Skill lag is only one of the new features of LOTRO, others include invisible walls, roll backs , multiple crashes while changing areas or mapping , npcs doing strange things, eyc.etc
    Maybe Turbine are attempting to kill the game to forgo any new updates.
    Most people have already left and dont care one way or the other any more.

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    Not to mention, weaver class is essentially broken in that it's so ridiculously OP.

    Just another indicator that Turbine devs are clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intolerance View Post
    Not to mention, weaver class is essentially broken in that it's so ridiculously OP.

    Just another indicator that Turbine devs are clueless.
    weaver class is fine as it is. weavers dont have those ridicilous selfheals like guards or wardens. íf weavers had that, thén they would be op, but now..
    its more in balance then you realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fighterkill View Post
    weaver class is fine as it is. weavers dont have those ridicilous selfheals like guards or wardens. if weavers had that, thén they would be op, but now..
    its more in balance then you realize.
    I wonder what class you play.........

    Weavers have a reflect, a 20k heal from their pet, and burrow which pretty much gives them a second life and you want more heals? You must be joking.

    Weavers also aren't balanced given their bleeds ignore 30% resistance, ignore mits, and pass through all my bpes. Thats just unheard off in terms of every other classes bleeds (warden bleed stacking is for another discussion)

    Also are you really trying to complain about guardians a TANK class that gets their heals from grabbing more aggro and attention (cough cough point of the class) then your lost. Guards are supposed to be tough to kill thats why they are guards....

    Wardens have the whole package but any good weaver can kite them before they can do any damage or run away from them without a scratch so i dont see the issue.


    Overall if your complaining that Weavers need a buff then its obvious you will never be happy with any changes the devs make for balance since you just wanna play the easiest click 4 skills to win class out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucks View Post
    I wonder what class you play.........

    Weavers have a reflect, a 20k heal from their pet, and burrow which pretty much gives them a second life and you want more heals? You must be joking.

    Weavers also aren't balanced given their bleeds ignore 30% resistance, ignore mits, and pass through all my bpes. Thats just unheard off in terms of every other classes bleeds (warden bleed stacking is for another discussion)
    Freep classes with tactical DoTs which bypass "all my bpes":

    Loremaster
    Fire RK
    Warden

    I don't think "unheard of" means what you think it means.



    Weaver ranged skills are essentially "tactical" skills and all have resist checks instead of bpe checks. This came about at Moria release.


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    [QUOTE=Sezneg;7536491]Freep classes with tactical DoTs which bypass "all my bpes":

    Loremaster
    Fire RK
    Warden

    I don't think "unheard of" means what you think it means.



    Weaver ranged skills are essentially "tactical" skills and all have resist checks instead of bpe checks. This came about at Moria release.[/QUOTE


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    Quote Originally Posted by bucks View Post
    I wonder what class you play.........

    Weavers have a reflect, a 20k heal from their pet, and burrow which pretty much gives them a second life and you want more heals? You must be joking.

    Weavers also aren't balanced given their bleeds ignore 30% resistance, ignore mits, and pass through all my bpes. Thats just unheard off in terms of every other classes bleeds (warden bleed stacking is for another discussion)

    Also are you really trying to complain about guardians a TANK class that gets their heals from grabbing more aggro and attention (cough cough point of the class) then your lost. Guards are supposed to be tough to kill thats why they are guards....

    Wardens have the whole package but any good weaver can kite them before they can do any damage or run away from them without a scratch so i dont see the issue.


    Overall if your complaining that Weavers need a buff then its obvious you will never be happy with any changes the devs make for balance since you just wanna play the easiest click 4 skills to win class out there.
    Not that I don't agree that weavers are in a good spot, but the 30% resistance skill with 5 venom does not apply to the DoT ticks of skills, only the initial application. So yea, you essentially cannot resist the application of skills, but you should resist a fair bit of the ticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucks View Post
    I wonder what class you play.........

    Weavers have a reflect, a 20k heal from their pet, and burrow which pretty much gives them a second life and you want more heals? You must be joking.

    Weavers also aren't balanced given their bleeds ignore 30% resistance, ignore mits, and pass through all my bpes. Thats just unheard off in terms of every other classes bleeds (warden bleed stacking is for another discussion)

    Also are you really trying to complain about guardians a TANK class that gets their heals from grabbing more aggro and attention (cough cough point of the class) then your lost. Guards are supposed to be tough to kill thats why they are guards....

    Wardens have the whole package but any good weaver can kite them before they can do any damage or run away from them without a scratch so i dont see the issue.


    Overall if your complaining that Weavers need a buff then its obvious you will never be happy with any changes the devs make for balance since you just wanna play the easiest click 4 skills to win class out there.
    I don't know what's worse, your asinine comparisons, or the fact your Freep goggles are so strong you readily think someone is asking for Weavers to be buffed when they said nothing of the sort.

    Ah, Lotro.
    "It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed,
    though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope."

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    Quote Originally Posted by fighterkill View Post
    weaver class is fine as it is. weavers dont have those ridicilous selfheals like guards or wardens. íf weavers had that, thén they would be op, but now..
    its more in balance then you realize.
    Ummm if you consider guardian and wardens op(which they are) well weaver is right there with them and none of those classes I'd consider balanced for pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    ......readily think someone is asking for Weavers to be buffed when they said nothing of the sort.

    Ah, Lotro.
    TBH, the way freeps are "balanced" atm, all creeps need a buff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    TBH, the way freeps are "balanced" atm, all creeps need a buff.
    Change that to:

    "I want my cake, I want to eat it, and I want to eat everyone else's too."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    TBH, the way freeps are "balanced" atm, all creeps need a buff.
    Yeah...no.
    "It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed,
    though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope."

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitewhimsy View Post
    Yeah...no.
    Why not? With the exception of hunters, Freeps are more powerful than creeps.

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    i think part of the reason skills seem so clunky is that it's not really NEEDED to be really fast since skills can't really be spammed like other classes due to longish cooldowns (most damage skills have 10sec+ cds) so if it was sped up more you would probably end up with everything on cd or be forced to be a melee class and sorta limiting your debuffing options since its kind of hard to get off an induction in melee range due to setbacks/interrupts from the faster attack speed freep melee tend to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    Why not? With the exception of hunters, Freeps are more powerful than creeps.
    Agreed, for the most part, but Spiders are, inarguably, the most overpowered creep class in the Ettenmoors. In addition, they are by far the easiest Creep class to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGilthanas View Post
    Why not? With the exception of hunters, Freeps are more powerful than creeps.
    Soloability be damned. Giving every class self heals with the ability to DPS, etc... is how we got into this mess.

    Hunters are fantastic in groups. And it's hilarious people love to point them out as this flawed class, when it's one of the better balanced ones. Not being OP = broken, as per Lotro's never ending escalation of rhetoric.
    Last edited by infinitewhimsy; Feb 16 2016 at 06:00 PM.
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