Two broad issues concerning creepside

[NoodleBoy]

Has anyone noticed how it is impossible to get black steel keys creepside? They do NOT drop from mobs and are nowhere to be found on the Lotro store. Without keys, you cannot open adventurers steelbound lootboxes, meaning that:
1. they are completely trash drops
2. You cannot get anymore sigils of battle as the only way they would drop was from opening lootboxes. In case anyone does not know what sigils are and do, here is a brief(ish) explanation: Sigils are used to buy very usefull things from creep vendors as well as cool stuff like skins. There are three kinds, lesser sigils of battle, greater sigils of battle, and sigils of dedication. Sigils of dedication are awarded depending on how old your account is. Whenever the anniversary comes around and your account hits a certain year, for example 3, you get a sigil of dedication. I think you get one every odd number of account years, like 1 year old, one sigil, 3 years old, two sigils, 5 years, 3, and so forth. There is no problem in obtaining these. The other kind of sigils, sigils of battle, are achieved as a rare(ish) drop from lootboxes, yet it is impossible now to open lootboxes because it is impossible to get keys. Why is this such a big deal? Greater sigils of battle allow you to purchase certain traits and skills regardless of your rank. Like if you were a rank 3 defiler, you could get the blight skill (rank 10) for one greater sigil of battle and also the enhanced blight trait (rank 15) for another greater sigil. This gives that defiler a huge advantage because the enhanced blight reduces incoming healing by 75% I think, and that makes it a lot easier to win fights if the freep(s) cannot heal up. Since rank 3 defilers are pretty much trash, having improved blight could help a lot. They could also buy higher rank heal skills for greater sigils helping them more. So basically, greater sigils of battle allow you to buy any skill or trait for just one of those sigils (to get skills or traits without greater sigils of battle, you have to be the required rank, and have to pay anywhere between 500-2k commandations).Without greater sigils of battle, one that wants to buy skills and traits without being that rank, now has two alternatives: Just do it (rank up and buy the skill via comms) lol, or buy it off of the Lotro store ( you probably could have guessed), and to buy it off of the Lotro Store is not cheap (you probably could have guessed that too, lol). Greater sigils of battle also allow you to buy exclusive skins that cannot be obtained with anything else. So that is what greater sigils of battle do, and why they are important. Now for lesser sigils of battle. Lesser sigils of battle can buy you any map no matter what rank you are or deeds you have done. Creeps have special maps that allow them to travel around the Moors quicker. These are nice because creeps do not have horses and they can escape from incoming freeps. To get these maps without lesser sigils, you have to complete deeds, which require you to complete x many quests for a keep/fortress. It is kinda nice to be able to buy these maps with lesser sigils if you are a greenie and don't have anyone to help you complete the deeds. Lesser sigils of battle also allow you to buy exclusive skins which cannot be obtained with anything else. So in Summary, Greater sigils of battle=skills, traits, skins. Lesser sigils of battle=maps, skins. Please add black steel keys as a drop or even in the Lotro store, because we cannot obtain sigils of battle without being able to open boxes which require keys.

3. the lootboxes can also drop skills. Imagine being a rank 1 Blackarrow and you get the vital target skill (rank 7) from a lootbox, then realize it can hit for 40k+. Joy! No more spending eternity killing mobs! Oh wait, you can't open boxes.
4. Among many other things, boxes also gave you commendations sometimes, which you use to buy skills, skins, and traits (if you are high enough rank to be eligible to buy them).

My conclusion for issue number 1: Please add black steel keys on creepside so they can open lootboxes and get beneficial items as well as exclusive skins.


Issue number 2: SSG just doesn't put effort into creeps. Many people know this by now and there are many things that prove this such as some traits that have not been scaled since years. I remember looking at this one spider trait that gave around 3.3k tact mit. when slotted, and some other things. I remember thinking to myself, man, the tact mit corruption will give you like more than 3x as much mitigation. I think this was when 115 was the cap, cannot remember the update, but I also remember when they were adding one of the Mordor raids, they were also adding "many improvements to monster play..." I logged on to my warg, only to notice that it was doing LESS damage than before. Another one of my kinnies also noticed this and thought they reduced the dps by like 3k. Before this update reavers really sucked. I logged on to my reaver and noticed that on all skills, the damage was raised by just 300-400 damage. Freeps also got the 115 audacity gear (please do not post anything on this thread related to the 120 audacity gear that has not come out). But one of the main reasons I am saying this is because just yesterday I heard about the 2019 rewards box they give you using the code reward2019. One of my friends used it and got a whole bunch of goodies. I thought to myself hey, sigils (of battle) are unobtainable, I wonder if opening one of these boxes on monster play will give you some sigils of battle or comms or something. So I opened one of my alt accounts, logged on to monster play, entered in the code, received the box, and opened the box. Lo and behold, I got a bunch of stinking freep stuff on a reaver... dyes, experience tomes, etc. SSG did not care to alter the rewards for anybody opening the box on monster play. Anyways, I was kinda upset and wish they would put more effort into creeps. They need to do a major update to monster play and PvMP in general. They can't keep doing slothfull and ineffective changes to monster play whenever the freeps get an update (that is if they even scale/update monster play at all). SSG should care some more about creeps and what they have to say, whether they pay or not. It seems like creeps opinion is flushed down the drain, just because a majority of creeps do not pay and most freeps pay. Like whenever you see freeps QQing for a nerf on creeps, creeps get nerfed. And how long have creeps been begging for an adjust to skills and traits? That is what really makes me upset. Think about this, how many more people would play and pay the game if there was good Pvp?

[danr607]

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...e-Lootbox-keys

We know.

[Phakdush]

Has anyone noticed how it is impossible to get black steel keys creepside? They do NOT drop from mobs and are nowhere to be found on the Lotro store. Without keys, you cannot open adventurers steelbound lootboxes, meaning that:
1. they are completely trash drops
2. You cannot get anymore sigils of battle as the only way they would drop was from opening lootboxes. In case anyone does not know what sigils are and do, here is a brief(ish) explanation: Sigils are used to buy very usefull things from creep vendors as well as cool stuff like skins. There are three kinds, lesser sigils of battle, greater sigils of battle, and sigils of dedication. Sigils of dedication are awarded depending on how old your account is. Whenever the anniversary comes around and your account hits a certain year, for example 3, you get a sigil of dedication. I think you get one every odd number of account years, like 1 year old, one sigil, 3 years old, two sigils, 5 years, 3, and so forth. There is no problem in obtaining these. The other kind of sigils, sigils of battle, are achieved as a rare(ish) drop from lootboxes, yet it is impossible now to open lootboxes because it is impossible to get keys. Why is this such a big deal? Greater sigils of battle allow you to purchase certain traits and skills regardless of your rank. Like if you were a rank 3 defiler, you could get the blight skill (rank 10) for one greater sigil of battle and also the enhanced blight trait (rank 15) for another greater sigil. This gives that defiler a huge advantage because the enhanced blight reduces incoming healing by 75% I think, and that makes it a lot easier to win fights if the freep(s) cannot heal up. Since rank 3 defilers are pretty much trash, having improved blight could help a lot. They could also buy higher rank heal skills for greater sigils helping them more. So basically, greater sigils of battle allow you to buy any skill or trait for just one of those sigils (to get skills or traits without greater sigils of battle, you have to be the required rank, and have to pay anywhere between 500-2k commandations).Without greater sigils of battle, one that wants to buy skills and traits without being that rank, now has two alternatives: Just do it (rank up and buy the skill via comms) lol, or buy it off of the Lotro store ( you probably could have guessed), and to buy it off of the Lotro Store is not cheap (you probably could have guessed that too, lol). Greater sigils of battle also allow you to buy exclusive skins that cannot be obtained with anything else. So that is what greater sigils of battle do, and why they are important. Now for lesser sigils of battle. Lesser sigils of battle can buy you any map no matter what rank you are or deeds you have done. Creeps have special maps that allow them to travel around the Moors quicker. These are nice because creeps do not have horses and they can escape from incoming freeps. To get these maps without lesser sigils, you have to complete deeds, which require you to complete x many quests for a keep/fortress. It is kinda nice to be able to buy these maps with lesser sigils if you are a greenie and don't have anyone to help you complete the deeds. Lesser sigils of battle also allow you to buy exclusive skins which cannot be obtained with anything else. So in Summary, Greater sigils of battle=skills, traits, skins. Lesser sigils of battle=maps, skins. Please add black steel keys as a drop or even in the Lotro store, because we cannot obtain sigils of battle without being able to open boxes which require keys.

3. the lootboxes can also drop skills. Imagine being a rank 1 Blackarrow and you get the vital target skill (rank 7) from a lootbox, then realize it can hit for 40k+. Joy! No more spending eternity killing mobs! Oh wait, you can't open boxes.
4. Among many other things, boxes also gave you commendations sometimes, which you use to buy skills, skins, and traits (if you are high enough rank to be eligible to buy them).

My conclusion for issue number 1: Please add black steel keys on creepside so they can open lootboxes and get beneficial items as well as exclusive skins.


Issue number 2: SSG just doesn't put effort into creeps. Many people know this by now and there are many things that prove this such as some traits that have not been scaled since years. I remember looking at this one spider trait that gave around 3.3k tact mit. when slotted, and some other things. I remember thinking to myself, man, the tact mit corruption will give you like more than 3x as much mitigation. I think this was when 115 was the cap, cannot remember the update, but I also remember when they were adding one of the Mordor raids, they were also adding "many improvements to monster play..." I logged on to my warg, only to notice that it was doing LESS damage than before. Another one of my kinnies also noticed this and thought they reduced the dps by like 3k. Before this update reavers really sucked. I logged on to my reaver and noticed that on all skills, the damage was raised by just 300-400 damage. Freeps also got the 115 audacity gear (please do not post anything on this thread related to the 120 audacity gear that has not come out). But one of the main reasons I am saying this is because just yesterday I heard about the 2019 rewards box they give you using the code reward2019. One of my friends used it and got a whole bunch of goodies. I thought to myself hey, sigils (of battle) are unobtainable, I wonder if opening one of these boxes on monster play will give you some sigils of battle or comms or something. So I opened one of my alt accounts, logged on to monster play, entered in the code, received the box, and opened the box. Lo and behold, I got a bunch of stinking freep stuff on a reaver... dyes, experience tomes, etc. SSG did not care to alter the rewards for anybody opening the box on monster play. Anyways, I was kinda upset and wish they would put more effort into creeps. They need to do a major update to monster play and PvMP in general. They can't keep doing slothfull and ineffective changes to monster play whenever the freeps get an update (that is if they even scale/update monster play at all). SSG should care some more about creeps and what they have to say, whether they pay or not. It seems like creeps opinion is flushed down the drain, just because a majority of creeps do not pay and most freeps pay. Like whenever you see freeps QQing for a nerf on creeps, creeps get nerfed. And how long have creeps been begging for an adjust to skills and traits? That is what really makes me upset. Think about this, how many more people would play and pay the game if there was good Pvp?

You're whipping a dead Horse

SSG don't really care about Creeps, there are many things that have not been updated since at least level 65 when I started playing.

They can't even give us a new Bird to keep the other one they gave us many years ago company.

[subadar]

The Bird has a squirrel for company

the mere fact that this abomination they call pvmp is a paid for service is bad enough

please dont add insult to injury by adding store only black steel keys for marginal creep boons