A request to extend Moria beyond 4 months

[Seven11]

Wow, my impression of Moria on legendary has been (and still is) very positive. I just hit 54, basically just questing and deeding, and having fun revisiting it all. I have noticed small differences, mostly adding convenience in travelling between points.
Also, my personal light certainly keeps me from falling down a crevice.

Today I did the tankard quest where you drink to the fallen dwarf in various Moria locations - I remember travelling to each point on my own originally (and I don't recall if the locations were even mentioned in the quest dialogue) -
today I just got really drunk, to the point of passing out, then kaplooey!! I woke up in another zone near a new tankard.

I am surrounded by people all of the time in Moria, so it's not dead by my reckoning. Shoot, there are lots of people in all of the zones still - and I will be leveling one or two alts as I imagine others will be doing as well.
In Moria I plan to complete all of the questlines and finish all (or most) of the deeds - I try to play daily, so unless RL hits me hard I should be good.

To the OP's request, I am good either way. If I haven't finished all that I want to do in 4 months, I will just continue my quests/deeds and then move on to the next zone. I wouldn't be averse to 6 months for Moria/Loth either.
I am assuming they will adhere to their original plans, but it's all assumption until/unless they announce something different.

I am on Anor and I love the community there and am still having a blast playing. It has breathed new life into my LotRO experience.

[Aedon]

Here is an idea, do not leave Moria till you are ready. That way those that wish to spend 6-8 months in the Long Dark of Moria can, (I will most likely still be lost in the Great Delving) And those who wish to move on in 4 months can. Some folkd find a need to get through new content rapidly. This leaves them either twiddling their thumbs till the next content, or walking away in search of other games.

[Thurinuor]

I am really happy with the Legendary servers, I love them and I have fun as 2007. But: the timeframe is too short! 4 month for all SOA content was not enough. I am in Angmar and everybody moved to Moria. I played dozens of days but I had no chance to catch up (because I finish all deeds in all areas). Moria should stay more than 4 month. 6+ month!

[onemadhatter]

Here is an idea, do not leave Moria till you are ready.

<sarcasm>Here is an idea, go play on a server where content past Moria exists. Many such servers exist! I know, shocking to learn this!</sarcasm>


I genuinely don't understand the "we are already at level cap and want to move on..." comments when you could simply go to a "live" server and play that content! It exists past Moria! You can double the current level cap on legendary!

There are MANY of us who want to experience the content at cap with readily available groups at a slower pace. It's the reason many of us quit playing lotro years ago, because we couldn't keep up. If you have a desire to quickly burn to cap and move on, I'm really confused as to why you are even playing on a server released with old content.

Another poster mentioned how the scaling is broken in Moria. That was something I didn't understand until now, but yes I think that is true when classic 12 man instances are being 6 manned with ease. If you want this fixed or rescaled, why are you complaining here about wanting to get to Mirkwood as quickly as possible instead of requesting an extended timeframe and calling for a reworking of the scaling in the meantime? I mean, seriously, if that's your justification for quickly releasing content because you are "already bored". Again those of us wanting a slower release are NOT bored.

It would also be nice if a VIP server existed that matched live, with free transfers, for those who want a VIP only but get quickly tired of Anor & Ithil. There are lots of us who are very happy and want a longer time with Moria - as the poll reflects. I think MORE people will leave with quicker releases because we are enjoying "old lotro" and that's why we are here again.

Personally, I do not care for PVMP and was very glad it was not implemented. I'd actually consider a compromise from my position on PVMP if Moria was extended and PVMP implemented for those of you who are "bored". I think that is a viable solution because it does genuinely seem people are in two camps on the PVMP and release timeframe.

How about 6+ Moria release, and a focus to reimplement PVMP in the middle of it. Would it keep all you bored naysayers who don't want to play on existing servers happy?

[Dorothir]

... because we couldn't keep up.

This is something I don't get. How are you unable to keep up with a 4 month schedule? Even on a casual basis, it's easy to hit L50 in a couple of weeks, and L60 in another week. Are you using the XP blocker pocket?

[Kronovan]

This is something I don't get. How are you unable to keep up with a 4 month schedule? Even on a casual basis, it's easy to hit L50 in a couple of weeks, and L60 in another week. Are you using the XP blocker pocket?

Sadly for me this just isn't so. This is my 1st play through of LOTRO and it's become apparent to me that I level up much slower than other players. There are players in my kinship that went from lvl 50-60 in the amount of time it's taken me to get to 53. It's not a question of whether I can reach level 60 with my PC in the 4 month window, but whether I'll have the opportunity to level up a 2nd PC too. I just bought the Mines of Moria expansion a month ago (have a policy of only using earned in-game LP for such purchases) and would dearly like to start a 2nd Runekeeper PC. The reality though, is having had to miss about a month of play during the SoA window due to work demands, I didn't manage to break 50 before the MoM unlocked - got in to Moria 5 days late. And trust me when I say, I do play often and for decent length sessions.

I think something players that have played through LOTRO before miss, is that these legendary servers are not classic servers. That means there's a number of game play features that weren't there in the original SoA content, or MoM expansion for that matter. While that does mean a first time player is treated to some nice new content and play features, it also considerably ups the amount that has to be learned. TBH, I've been at times overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the knowledge required to play optimally. If I had one beef so far it would be about the quality of the few in-game tutorials, which IMO haven't been very good. Fortunately there are some true sages in my Kinship to help. It all means though, that I stick with my one PC as that keeps me closer level-wise with the majority of players and gives me more opportunity to play with groups.

I realize a few years down the road when I finally get to end content I can start a 2nd Runekeeper PC, but that probably means I'll play them mostly solo due to a diminished server pop. I've no doubt I'd level my 2nd PC quicker, so even an extension of the current windows by a couple of months could probably make a difference for me. I'm playing a Lore-master and enjoying the game very much, but admittedly I do feel I'm missing out a bit by not playing another class I'm equally interested in. Anyhow...it's not my intention to wine or demand sympathy, just to give a perspective from a n00b player who's struggling to keep up.

[Gwinthilnel]

Sadly for me this just isn't so. This is my 1st play through of LOTRO and it's become apparent to me that I level up much slower than other players. There are players in my kinship that went from lvl 50-60 in the amount of time it's taken me to get to 53. It's not a question of whether I can reach level 60 with my PC in the 4 month window, but whether I'll have the opportunity to level up a 2nd PC too. I just bought the Mines of Moria expansion a month ago (have a policy of only using earned in-game LP for such purchases) and would dearly like to start a 2nd Runekeeper PC. The reality though, is having had to miss about a month of play during the SoA window due to work demands, I didn't manage to break 50 before the MoM unlocked - got in to Moria 5 days late. And trust me when I say, I do play often and for decent length sessions.

I think something players that have played through LOTRO before miss, is that these legendary servers are not classic servers. That means there's a number of game play features that weren't there in the original SoA content, or MoM expansion for that matter. While that does mean a first time player is treated to some nice new content and play features, it also considerably ups the amount that has to be learned. TBH, I've been at times overwhelmed by the sheer volume of the knowledge required to play optimally. If I had one beef so far it would be about the quality of the few in-game tutorials, which IMO haven't been very good. Fortunately there are some true sages in my Kinship to help. It all means though, that I stick with my one PC as that keeps me closer level-wise with the majority of players and gives me more opportunity to play with groups.

I realize a few years down the road when I finally get to end content I can start a 2nd Runekeeper PC, but that probably means I'll play them mostly solo due to a diminished server pop. I've no doubt I'd level my 2nd PC quicker, so even an extension of the current windows by a couple of months could probably make a difference for me. I'm playing a Lore-master and enjoying the game very much, but admittedly I do feel I'm missing out a bit by not playing another class I'm equally interested in. Anyhow...it's not my intention to wine or demand sympathy, just to give a perspective from a n00b player who's struggling to keep up.

First of all, welcome to the world of LOTRO! We are glad to have you

I can see things from both sides. I am one who levels at an average pace, but people were flying to 60 on day 1 of Moria. Heck, like 4 hours in people were "Ding 60!" in world chat! My advice is try not to get stressed about that and level at your own pace. Lots of us are still in the lower 50s in Moria, and many are still in the Shadows of Angmar areas. The main point of playing any game is to have fun right?

As a first-timer in LOTRO, I would suggest really soaking it all in and put the time it takes you aside. If you are in a kinship of decent size there will be people of all levels who are interested in playing alongside you. Also, from what I've seen in Anor, lots of people in general are willing to help, answer questions, and run things as well.

Not sure what server you are on, but if you're on Anor and would like a hand or have any questions, just send me a message

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

First of all, welcome to the world of LOTRO! We are glad to have you

I can see things from both sides. I am one who levels at an average pace, but people were flying to 60 on day 1 of Moria. Heck, like 4 hours in people were "Ding 60!" in world chat! My advice is try not to get stressed about that and level at your own pace. Lots of us are still in the lower 50s in Moria, and many are still in the Shadows of Angmar areas. The main point of playing any game is to have fun right?

As a first-timer in LOTRO, I would suggest really soaking it all in and put the time it takes you aside. If you are in a kinship of decent size there will be people of all levels who are interested in playing alongside you. Also, from what I've seen in Anor, lots of people in general are willing to help, answer questions, and run things as well.

Not sure what server you are on, but if you're on Anor and would like a hand or have any questions, just send me a message

The Fun is a point of view. Certain players have a different goals and desires and their definition of fun is rather different,unique and Alien to you or somebody else We all would not be here if we are not "having fun" wouldn't we? Why she/he plays the game or will he/she becomes the slave of game which turns into pure addiction/obsession and "fun destruction" ? It should not be your concern.

Do not mistake me, I heard the same story countless of times. I play the game for fun. Fun is the main point. You have to look it for twenty different sides. Quite contrary once one hit level cap it is only the true beginning. What I find rather silly is how many players worry or even attack others for their rushing or bother about others if they will think ~ Oh he is a such a slow at levelling. So,let them rush and allow them to complete the content in the way they desire.

Hitting 60 is just a number. One can return and experience massive amount of content in anytime.

Moria was Re- released indeed and it does not mean it will ruin your "levelling experience" Hit stone{XP disabler} and park your character at level 50 or when Siege Mirkwood arrives once more , use Stone again and lock them at level 60.

@Kronovan

I was a First-Timer in ages past and I never asked help at all. I encourage everyone to learn everything alone without the aid of none. You will feel more accomplished. Besides that there are way more than enough detailed Tutorails even for a complete newbie not only in Lord of the Rings Online,but one who is a complete stranger in MMO gaming.

I am not shocked nor surprised anymore The problem is not with SSG or Legendary servers, Tis in ridiculous demands and greed of players and I will say it openly. We never are satisfied, Observe the enormous amount of negativity and frustration on forums despite their best efforts. Such is the human nature, easy to bash and complain ,present negative aspects in their eyes, forget about hundreds and thousands of positive ones, It may not be directed to a single gaming company ,but to sole individual as well. An example. You have a player A Yourself. You did aided thousand players and did great deeds, you will do one bad deed and they always shall remember the bad and everything else is instantly forgotten, same for SSG. Look at now, They locked Turtle,Watcher lack of balance and here we go: Legendary servers are horrible, game is dying, the end has come, waste of time. Sorrowful it is. I will refrain myself from other words,because I know well where it leads.

It became a mockery. It would not matter if they extended Moria to 6 months or 12 months, same old ballad will repeat inevitably once more , three + threads will emerge on how "bad" Legendary servers are.

I can perfectly understand people cannot play due to their work schedule ,kids,other hobbies,illness even or simply shortage of time. It makes sense. What does not make sense is The mentality of Player B: There is no balance, my class is not OP and everything else is horrific! I hate it and automatically the sinking of everything positive which remains. So player B wants the Improved PvMP or greater challenge and immediately the Legendary servers are complete waste, one of the examples. Even with 30 minutes - 1Hour per day you should be able to hit 60 in less than a month, or Let us give 1,5 month and then you have 2,5 months to experience instances and finish additional content, but as I mentioned before, it wont be end of the world at all. I comprehend too the other approach, There are those who want to slow it down, read every single quest, explore and finish each area before proceeding to next one. I will give you one kinship as an example on Ithill,The way of Tortoise , they are still locked at 32 despite level cap being 60.

You surely are overwhelmed ,but soon you will realise how simple it is, Naturally if you wish to know your class well or incredible amount of content game has then it can take months and even years, It matters not if one is a newbie,experienced,veteran/elite,Genius you always will learn something new and be intrigued by particular quest,soundtrack,festival,even t,instance, Be a witness to strange story,talk with random passionate players and so on...

Take my advice: Experience each region by completing most if not all quests,deeds and thoroughly explore it before to the next one. You may buy XP disabler at LOTRO Store for 100 LP.

As for others, If you seek a true challenge then you are in the wrong game. I can guarantee you Dark souls franchise will eat your nerves and test your sanity so much that LOTRO will look heavenly in comparison. Test yourself with No damage runs or finish the entire game without dying for example.

I will speak for myself. My definition of fun is when I slaughter the army of Orcs,Goblins,Uruks,Drakes,Regm yl,Nameless horrors,Dragons,Brigands,Bugan s and other vile fiends or sometimes simply when logging in ,ridding around the Middle-Earth,listening to soundtrack,participating in festival, exploring new and mysterious lands,Learning about new content,lore etc.. and yes I do love my Luminous Ladies and I am not afraid to openly express myself and I never was more happy with LOTRO than now and I shall stand firm behind my opinion even if I have to stand alone and against everyone else.

Best Regards,

High Queen of the Noldor

[Delador]

OMG I really hope moria will NOT be extended beyond 4 months oO

What the hack wanna you guys do in Moria beside from questing? Painting the walls? Wait until Hytbolt thou :P THere you can paint the city 1000 times to get the set
Just kidding, but really, 4 months are by far enough time to enjoy every quest in Moria. Running a thousand time the same instances which can be even solo'ed by lot of classes. Yes there are a lot but nevertheless since they just took 10 minutes per instance while facerolling most players will lose interested in running them. Even DN tooks about 30-40 min with a 6 man grp. At the end of SoA before moria lunched there where just rare efforts to find grps for instances. At least there was a t2 and t3 mode on which a few kins were working on and those modes were funny becasue it brings a full raid on the table.

Since there is no plan for t2 and t3 modes the 4 month will be pretty much enough that every one can level his alts to level 60 and run 1 billion times into the grand stairs and so on. But to be honest I think a lot of players will just barley make it up to mirkwood while there is no real reason to gear up just to..... gear up another time for lvl 65. Thus you just make the deeds and quest in instances and than you'll just barley run those instances again.

I really loved moria and I still enjoy leveling but one time and no more. And yes I can understand that few gyus wanna do the same thing 2 or 3 times but tbh that wouldn't take more than 4 months even if you read every quest text 2 or 3 times....
And remember there are another ~14 weeks of Moria left, maybe first play those weeks, than decide if you wanna enlarge the moria release ;-)

[Vinteal]

I am also a returning player. I joined the legendary server a bit late. I also think that when they hit the 6 month mark or 12 month mark, open a 3rd legendary server with transfer availability if you are under 50. Just my thoughts.