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  1. #1
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    Legendary server merge in the future?

    Have the devs discussed the possibility of merging the 2 legendary servers? Ithil seems very quiet and averages 120 people online.

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    Yes, please set a date for the merge so people Will start transfer already.

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    No thank you. No merges please.

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    I'd be ok with that, both populations are low.

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    Population is low on LG servers . wow is out someone sent tell to devs to show them how they should do their job.
    And BTW a company needs to advertise and attract new people right? 0 commercial and a nearly 60 years old com manager? Is this the face of the company to attract new people?
    Where is LG pvp?
    The face I talked before talks all the time about their music community on streams ( while dieing in a solo quest inst from 3 mobs) which is some individuals only. in all servers rarely you see people playing music.
    While every night last 2 weeks we have caped creeps on EN server and a lag fest cause the face of our company eat the food of the hamsters that run the server .
    Wow >>> Lagtro..... 0 changes on pvp, rng endgame , 2 instances that do not even drop stats for you class on items in t5
    And now LG servers population goes down.
    1 more expansion then new lotro will come propably and finally retire this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LELEGOURAS View Post
    Population is low on LG servers . wow is out someone sent tell to devs to show them how they should do their job.
    And BTW a company needs to advertise and attract new people right? 0 commercial and a nearly 60 years old com manager? Is this the face of the company to attract new people?
    Where is LG pvp?
    The face I talked before talks all the time about their music community on streams ( while dieing in a solo quest inst from 3 mobs) which is some individuals only. in all servers rarely you see people playing music.
    While every night last 2 weeks we have caped creeps on EN server and a lag fest cause the face of our company eat the food of the hamsters that run the server .
    Wow >>> Lagtro..... 0 changes on pvp, rng endgame , 2 instances that do not even drop stats for you class on items in t5
    And now LG servers population goes down.
    1 more expansion then new lotro will come propably and finally retire this one.
    or how not. I guess we will see how popular it is in 3-6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinara View Post
    No thank you. No merges please.
    They should have merged it long ago… A merge doesn't hurt anyone if SSG inform players to start move for free. Give players a month to move their characters and kinships and be done with it. Unless they start to market the Legendary server with Rise of Isendgard the population wont grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wispsong View Post
    or how not. I guess we will see how popular it is in 3-6 months.
    It will be very popular. They just added 13 new servers for the US, and like 9 new servers for EU. Each server holding 25k+ players. There is right now a total of 86 severs! Many servers have 20-30k players in queue.

    There are 6 content releases in classic alone, with expansions to come. This wont die, ever. wow had 1.2Million views on Twitch alone yesterday. Please this is the biggest publicity Blizzard has had in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotroVidz View Post
    It will be very popular. They just added 13 new servers for the US, and like 9 new servers for EU. Each server holding 25k+ players. There is right now a total of 86 severs! Many servers have 20-30k players in queue.

    There are 6 content releases in classic alone, with expansions to come. This wont die, ever. wow had 1.2Million views on Twitch alone yesterday. Please this is the biggest publicity Blizzard has had in years.

    It is popular right now. I'm thinking about trying it myself. The question is how popular it will be a few months down the road. LS were popular too when they came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wispsong View Post
    It is popular right now. I'm thinking about trying it myself. The question is how popular it will be a few months down the road. LS were popular too when they came out.
    Yeah, LS would have been popular still if it was a true classic server. The first month it was always 1k+ players online, but once people got to endgame and realised it was so poorly balanced that you could 3 man raids people left in droves. The LS also had store, and faceroll landscape, and trait trees.. It was NOTHING like vanilla Lotro. Also the best gear didn't come from raids or instances, they came from random drops on landscape aka, essence gear.

    You can't compare legendary server with wow classic, because wow classic is exactly like it was back in the day. The balance, difficulty, gear progression etc, are completely intact. Not like the legendary servers, where everything is broken in one way or another.

    Even if the population drops by 50% on wow classic it will still have a huge amount of players. I'm on 1 of the newly added EU servers on classic, it was low today, now its 6k players in queue.. The most populated has 30k in queue atm.

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    No thank you. If the servers merge, that'll be my monthly subs gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign50 View Post
    No thank you. If the servers merge, that'll be my monthly subs gone.
    great argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by icefriend View Post
    great argument
    Don't be narrow-minded. Who do you think is ultimately in control of any merge? :hint: It's not you, hence it's not you I need to convince.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign50 View Post
    No thank you. If the servers merge, that'll be my monthly subs gone.
    Why exactly would you unsub because of a server merge with an avarage of 120 players online? You will be offered a free transfer that takes 1minute to complete weeks or months before the actual server closure, what's the big deal?? To split the small legendary community is beyond stupid.

    I transfered from Ithil long ago, because the low population makes it very hard to get a group going at certain times. More people more fun, and it's not like Anor is crowded or anything, small population there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotroVidz View Post
    Why exactly would you unsub because of a server merge with an avarage of 120 players online? You will be offered a free transfer that takes 1minute to complete weeks or months before the actual server closure, what's the big deal?? To split the small legendary community is beyond stupid.

    I transfered from Ithil long ago, because the low population makes it very hard to get a group going at certain times. More people more fun, and it's not like Anor is crowded or anything, small population there as well.
    Why? I'm not interested in losing a bunch of names that i've grown to like, TBH. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotroVidz View Post
    There are 6 content releases in classic alone, with expansions to come. This wont die, ever. wow had 1.2Million views on Twitch alone yesterday. Please this is the biggest publicity Blizzard has had in years.
    You've got that winning combo of calling dissenting opinion *beyond stupid* mixed with hyperbole about WoW classic (won't die, ever. Really? I wish my palantir could see into the future).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign50 View Post
    Why? I'm not interested in losing a bunch of names that i've grown to like, TBH. Simple as that.
    How do you know your names are taken? You can always get a -1 behind it if so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign50 View Post
    You've got that winning combo of calling dissenting opinion *beyond stupid* mixed with hyperbole about WoW classic (won't die, ever. Really? I wish my palantir could see into the future).
    Well, classic private servers had around 500k players that has now moved to classic. If those private servers are more active than most mmos except BFA I'm pretty sure it wont die..Just use common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign50 View Post
    You've got that winning combo of calling dissenting opinion *beyond stupid* mixed with hyperbole about WoW classic (won't die, ever. Really? I wish my palantir could see into the future).
    A lotro server can handle 1600 players, now we have an a community with around 500 active players, why split that in two just because you have grown on some silly names none cares about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotroVidz View Post
    why split that in two just because you have grown on some silly names none cares about.
    You may not care, I do. Sorry you can't understand that. If your attitude is any reflection on how you consider the rest of the community, then it's better it stays split. You're also misguided if you're thinking an LS merge will solve or significantly improve grouping issues, because who knows how many of those "120 online players" care to do group or raid content, or will even stick around after any merge (such as myself)? My family and friends, that are active players, stick together. We RP and enjoy Ithil *because* it's quieter. We're not alone in this, but I would hardly fathom a guess as to how many of us there are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimenuir View Post
    How do you know your names are taken? You can always get a -1 behind it if so
    I didn't join LS during launch, I was late to the party. I also didn't have the foresight to immediately duplicate or check names on both servers. +1 isn't so great for RP value... that's part of LotRO's charm for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LotroVidz View Post
    Well, classic private servers had around 500k players that has now moved to classic. If those private servers are more active than most mmos except BFA I'm pretty sure it wont die..Just use common sense.
    Initial launch is in no way linked to longevity (arguing "common sense" when you're buying into initial hype?). We'll see if the subscription fee for those who want pure classic sustains itself, considering private servers continue to be free. Also, not every player on those private servers suddenly subscribed to play classic, a lot of players who are already WoW players with existing subs are also trying it out. You're running on assumptions, likely to inflate your argument. If anything SSG should wait and see how classic pans out after a few months to gauge its impact.

    BTW trying to do any direct comparison between private servers and Blizzard's classic is fallacious. While most people assume classic equates to vanilla, it's not always the case. Many of those private servers you're counting pops from include differing versions of WotLK, BC, Cata and MoP, which Blizzard's classic may not deign to touch. Private servers can cater to a much greater range of interests than Blizzard's version ever will... oh, and like I said, they're free (legality aside).
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    I feel like if people haven't migrated to Anor already because of the low population on Ithil, they don't want to. Transfers are free and easy. They like their names, they like the quiet...something. Would forcing them to move make them decide to stop playing at all? Probably a few of them. Not sure what it costs them to run a server, but maybe little enough that they don't want to lose revenue.

    I think what would help the LS more is a clear announcement of expansions more than a day or two in advance, and not launching around the same time as a content update on live servers. SoM was a weak expansion to begin with, in that the gear was not much of an upgrade from 65, and little of the L65 content offered much in the way of exciting reward. And they released Vales 8 days prior to SoM, so people were off doing that when Mirkwood launched. If there was a way to shoot the LS in the foot, they found it. I hope RoI is handled differently.
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    Merging the Legendary Servers now would only be an admission of defeat for SSG on the whole Legendary Server concept. Probably not a good idea right now PR wise. Having said that, Lotro server populations on a whole seem to also be in a steady decline. I play on Gladden and Landroval and I have seen their populations decline considerably since Mordor released and according to some Lotro population tracking sites my observations seem correct. I am sure there are many reasons for this which I will not get into here. My concern is that SSG doesn't seem to know how to stop it.

    I also have to admit that I too am not a happy camper when it comes to this game but I have managed to endure its highs and lows since June 2007. I have invested so much time and money into my characters that it is unlikely I would ever completely abandon them unless I was forced to in the event Lotro shuts down at some point for good.

    I just wish the executives at SSG or who ever is calling the shots over there would figure out what they are doing wrong before it is too late.

    This game has such great potential and the only reason it will ever fail is because those now involved in its development let it...

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    Last edited by welden; Aug 29 2019 at 06:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by welden View Post
    Merging the Legendary Servers now would only be an admission of defeat for SSG on the whole Legendary Server concept. Probably not a good idea right now PR wise. Having said that, Lotro server populations on a whole seem to also be in a steady decline. I play on Gladden and Landroval and I have seen their populations decline considerably since Mordor released and according to some Lotro population tracking sites my observations seem correct. I am sure there are many reasons for this which I will not get into here. My concern is that SSG doesn't seem to know how to stop it.

    I also have to admit that I too am not a happy camper when it comes to this game but I have managed to endure its highs and lows since June 2007. I have invested so much time and money into my characters that it is unlikely I would ever completely abandon them unless I was forced to in the event Lotro shuts down at some point for good.

    I just wish the executives at SSG or who ever is calling the shots over there would figure out what they are doing wrong before it is too late.

    This game has such great potential and the only reason it will ever fail is because those now involved in its development let it...

    Welden
    I couldn't agree more!
    Also it should be noted that they should not have made a second Legendary server to begin with!
    They should have been aware that the high numbers were only people from all the regular servers making fake toons to reserve their names.
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