Don't add mounted mobs if mounted combat is broken!!!

[Silver_ArrowWind]

As soon as I enter the new area I notice a ton of mounted mobs, do i have to remind the devs our warsteeds have 4k morale when mobs hit 10k??? and even if i trait sacrifice in medium it still takes FOREVER to kill ONE single mob with mounted skills because they haven't been scaled or cared for since atleast level 100 if not earlier. Not everyone plays a ranged class to kill the mobs from a distance. War steed health and damage are a joke, nicely said, at 100+. Does anyone from the dev team even play this game? no offense. Mounted combat should never return, it was and is an all time low of this game and nothing short of a total revamp (and a fix of rubberbanding which is utopic) would fix it.

[Zohal]

It's a bug:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8003524 #post8003524

[Silver_ArrowWind]

If its a bug it means the beta testing of this game is inexistent. You can't miss a bug THIS obvious. I tried to quest only to be aggroed by mounted mobs every 15m and spend 3min to kill 1. I ended up logging off because I can't be arsed to deal with this.

[Elmagor]

Come on, they have only 138K health and they only in 1 area in location

[groucho42]

It's a bug:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8003524 #post8003524

A bug is something that it not expected. This is a known problem that should have been fixed before release. It's either ineptitude or laziness.

[OldMadeOfLions]

This is a known problem that should have been fixed before release. It's either ineptitude or laziness.

There's also a third option: our QA team by necessity had to become very good at mounted combat, so it doesn't generally strike them as being a problem; they didn't realize it wasn't intended for these guys.

In our files it can be easy to confuse Warg-riders with Warg-riders, but this mix-up will make us delve a little deeper next time, just to be safe.

MoL

[Seregthol]

If its a bug it means the beta testing of this game is nonexistent.

A distinct possibility.

[Thranthir]

There's also a third option: our QA team by necessity had to become very good at mounted combat, so it doesn't generally strike them as being a problem; they didn't realize it wasn't intended for these guys.

In our files it can be easy to confuse Warg-riders with Warg-riders, but this mix-up will make us delve a little deeper next time, just to be safe.

MoL

While I see your jest.. mounted combat is not doable on the higher level area's.. your warsteed has only roughly 3000-6000 morale and enemies hit you with much higher hits, so once you're in range of combat you will get knocked of your warsteed almost instantly.. this means that QA has had no chance of fighting these mobs as if it was supposed to be mounted combat or at least would have noticed the fact that mounted combat is broken.

Thanks for replying nonetheless, as we do understand from your previous comment in a different thread that it wasn't intended to be mounted combat

[Laurelinarien]

If they got so good that explains why our Crafted lvl 85 Bridles still give half the Fury as TA looted ones. Heck, it may even explain why our Crafted Class LIs are STILL giving 42-46 HPS while the TA looted ones start at 56 HPS!

I should get better at LOTRO!

P.S: can I get an Invincibility Cloak too? That'd make my experience so much better.

[OldMadeOfLions]

P.S: can I get an Invincibility Cloak too? That'd make my experience so much better.

In this particular world it would be a Ring, and by all accounts it mostly didn't, depending on how much you enjoy having fingers.

MoL

[Thranthir]

In this particular world it would be a Ring, and by all accounts it mostly didn't, depending on how much you enjoy having fingers.

MoL

MoL with you being active at this time.. any chance you could give Chapter 1.4 NPC's a nudge? Loads of players on Evernight waiting for Agnar Brokentooth and Reithvald Red-ember to spawn.. but nothing is happening.
I've been standing here for nearly 1.5 hours since my ticket has gone in but no response as of yet

[Seregthol]

In this particular world it would be a Ring, and by all accounts it mostly didn't, depending on how much you enjoy having fingers.

MoL

I think many of us would have been willing to give up a finger (in-game ) in exchange for this new area to have been reviewed and fixed a bit longer before release. As it is, it's very frustrating.

[Gandolf_TheOld]

Come on, they have only 138K health and they only in 1 area in location

You must have come in from the north. In the southern area around and south of Limlok (along the line of Sundergrot, Limlok, The White Mare and Shulgmokh); those damnable Wrag Riders are all over the place. As a squishy, a LM, I have found they are most easily fought from the ground and ranged down. Target the rider keep turning follow your mini-map indication and start your attack as they approach. Please note these riders usually come in threes. Oh, forgot one thing, keep turning and do not get dizzy.

[Gandolf_TheOld]

As soon as I enter the new area I notice a ton of mounted mobs, do i have to remind the devs our warsteeds have 4k morale when mobs hit 10k??? and even if i trait sacrifice in medium it still takes FOREVER to kill ONE single mob with mounted skills because they haven't been scaled or cared for since atleast level 100 if not earlier. Not everyone plays a ranged class to kill the mobs from a distance. War steed health and damage are a joke, nicely said, at 100+. Does anyone from the dev team even play this game? no offense. Mounted combat should never return, it was and is an all time low of this game and nothing short of a total revamp (and a fix of rubberbanding which is utopic) would fix it.

See my above post for how to handle these Warg Riders.

[Arnenna]

There's also a third option: our QA team by necessity had to become very good at mounted combat, so it doesn't generally strike them as being a problem; they didn't realize it wasn't intended for these guys.

In our files it can be easy to confuse Warg-riders with Warg-riders, but this mix-up will make us delve a little deeper next time, just to be safe.

MoL

Is it going to be fixed for this time though? If it can't be addressed, at the very least, most of these riders should be removed. We only need 8 of them for one quest, so stick them all in one area and remove them from everywhere else.

[Thurinuor]

I would love to see this is not a bug and mounted combat will get a scaling to 130.

[Fegefeuer]

I would love to see this is not a bug and mounted combat will get a scaling to 130.

+1 I would also love this

[JoRDee]

Yep another bug that made it on to live that was on BR and reported. Same poop different day.

[Lynore]

There's also a third option: our QA team by necessity had to become very good at mounted combat, so it doesn't generally strike them as being a problem; they didn't realize it wasn't intended for these guys.

In our files it can be easy to confuse Warg-riders with Warg-riders, but this mix-up will make us delve a little deeper next time, just to be safe.

MoL

I actually like mounted combat and got pretty good at it, but the lack of scaling for current mobs has made it pretty ineffective in game. Our mounts and mounted skills haven't kept up. Is that going to change?

[Strider5548]

Guys this really isn't a big deal. They are landscape mobs in one part of the new area and you can kill them easily. Also, some of us enjoy mounted combat even if it hasn't scaled and has bugs.

There are SO many more pressing things that need to be addressed with this game:

-Class imbalance *COUGH* BUFF HUNTERS *COUGH*
-Lag
-Loot system in Remm
-100's of RP items that could be worked on
-UI Improvements

The list goes on and on...

[Wyllshire]

Guys this really isn't a big deal. They are landscape mobs in one part of the new area and you can kill them easily. Also, some of us enjoy mounted combat even if it hasn't scaled and has bugs.

There are SO many more pressing things that need to be addressed with this game:

-Class imbalance *COUGH* BUFF HUNTERS *COUGH*
-Lag
-Loot system in Remm
-100's of RP items that could be worked on
-UI Improvements

The list goes on and on...

Yes, everyone agrees with you that there are MANY problems in this game that need to be worked on. But that does NOT mean that this ridiculous Warg-Rider situation isn't one of them.

[Elmagor]

You must have come in from the north. In the southern area around and south of Limlok (along the line of Sundergrot, Limlok, The White Mare and Shulgmokh); those damnable Wrag Riders are all over the place. As a squishy, a LM, I have found they are most easily fought from the ground and ranged down. Target the rider keep turning follow your mini-map indication and start your attack as they approach. Please note these riders usually come in threes. Oh, forgot one thing, keep turning and do not get dizzy.

My main character is LM, and I NEVER have any problems with mounted combat mobs on this character. He have enough heal, damage and controls to kill any squishy 138K morale goblin who stand on his way. Also LM one of best classes in using war steed, so he can kill them both with war steed or without it on easy. And with area what you mention, The White Mare don't have huge amount of quests to visit it more when 2-3 times.

[Arnenna]

Guys this really isn't a big deal. They are landscape mobs in one part of the new area and you can kill them easily. Also, some of us enjoy mounted combat even if it hasn't scaled and has bugs.

There are SO many more pressing things that need to be addressed with this game:

-Class imbalance *COUGH* BUFF HUNTERS *COUGH*
-Lag
-Loot system in Remm
-100's of RP items that could be worked on
-UI Improvements

The list goes on and on...

It's quite a big deal for melee classes. Try keeping in close combat with these far ranging mobile foes once you've been dismounted. It's not a problem for ranged classes, they have plenty of powerful ranged hits they can throw.

[groucho42]

There's also a third option: our QA team by necessity had to become very good at mounted combat, so it doesn't generally strike them as being a problem; they didn't realize it wasn't intended for these guys.

In our files it can be easy to confuse Warg-riders with Warg-riders, but this mix-up will make us delve a little deeper next time, just to be safe.

MoL

Nope, if they can't see that mobs one-shot warsteed, and have since 120, they're not looking or they don't care.

[GarethB]

If its a bug it means the beta testing of this game is inexistent. You can't miss a bug THIS obvious. I tried to quest only to be aggroed by mounted mobs every 15m and spend 3min to kill 1. I ended up logging off because I can't be arsed to deal with this.

I was in the beta test of the new zone before it went live and those mounted goblins were not there during the one beta test that was opened to players. It's kind of hard to find and report a problem with mob behaviour when that mob is not present to test. If I had found any mobs behaving the way those mounted goblins are behaving, I definitely would have reported it.

The correct criticism here is that SSG added a new type of mob to the general landscape with a behaviour model that no other mobs in that zone use, and spread that new mob across a large proportion of the zone, AFTER the one public test of the new zone had closed.

I get that SSG don't want to reveal everything a new zone has during public testing, keep some suprises for the live release. On the other hand, all of the common landscape mobs SHOULD have been included in the beta test and in areas that players would need to pass through for the quest content, but that didn't happen in this case.