Quote Originally Posted by Saruman_Of_Numbers View Post
aaaaaaannnnd this is the point of the thread where the entire conversation devolves into a poo-flinging fest of who "real" pvpers are.... its all squabbling from here on out.

thread over.
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I'm not trying to blast Orion, I don't want to offend him or anyone.
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But Fantus's work was strongly informed by the fight clubbers; not the folks who spend tons of time in the 'Moors in open world play. These were high ranked players whose main concern was parity with the freeps. You can understand their point of view. If everything else is equal: the setting, typically an agreed upon neutral space, the numbers on each side, the make up of the teams, and the rank vs gear level, then the only determining factor is skill. They want to measure their skill against equals. Can't blame them for that.
This is just like it was before. Shouting down the people who actually play this game. Ya'll need to stop it.