No notes until the day of launch?

[Arnenna]

The glass is half full. These extended downtimes are doing something to improve lag but they don't want to get our hopes up in case it is ...imperfectly successful. The glass is half full. These extended downtimes are to prepare for the mini-expansion so that we just have a 10 minute downtime that day with no need to take the servers down for half a week 30 minutes later. The glass is half full ...... Oh the heck with it <drinks from the now empty glass>. Might as well wait for the notes - speculation, like resistance, is futile.

But we don't even know if notes are even arriving. the announcement says - they are. The launcher message (posted later) doesn't mention any update.

[maartena]

One thing that I noticed is that it is Tybur posting the notice. The only time I noticed Cordovan not post it before was when he was away, whether he was on vacation or ill. Considering this, patch notes are usually delayed as well since it indicates someone unavailable.

That's probably it. Whenever Cordovan goes on vacation (or is otherwise unavailable) other staff does the minimum required, and things like patch notes may just be delayed a little. Cordovan has not posted at all this week, so maybe he is unavailable. Whatever the case may be.

I am sure that when the notes are available they will be posted, and as it seems to be a very minor patch, I wouldn't expect all that much.....

Also, the launcher indeed still shows the maintenance notice only, and the Harvestmath guide doesn't have a link. Seems to me the expert is just not available today.....

[elvenes]

what if they confused announcements? or, there is an update, but we get the patch notes with the update at 2pm server XD

[maartena]

what if they confused announcements? or, there is an update, but we get the patch notes with the update at 2pm server XD

Meh, the last time Cordovan went on vacation some announcements got messed up/confused as well, and the fact that Tybur is posting them is a decent indication that Cordovan is unavailable.

It's all going to be OK folks. Don't panic!

[Severlin]

Working on it. Cordovan is on a much deserved vacation.

(It's a small bug fix patch.)

Sev~

[istvana]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

[Dinara]

Working on it. Cordovan is on a much deserved vacation.

(It's a small bug fix patch.)

Sev~

Thank you Sev!
Was starting to worry about Cord, glad he is just on vacation, hope he is enjoying it!

[Feoh]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

You seem confused about the difference between "we" and "I".

[Plidak]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

Those who need drama ?
The silence cause drama.
Half ..e answers like one above doesnt hepl.
Small bug fix- 9h downtime and delayed patch notes.
First restart. Second, extended meintenance.
Cord jump from vacantion to vacantion when is most needed. (hope he is ok and get some rest)
Expansion is about to be launched and stil no BR
Warden and captains CRYING for so much needed buffs and OK class like burg get them first, and we learn that from some public discord but not from oficial source like forum.
There is more but lets stop here.
Just please, PLEASE, dont come with those DRAMA BULLSH@ITS .
Lets no make it personal, just coment about the game, devs or whatever and dont name ppl

[Trixie_Me]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

Thank you for the level-headed post and for speaking for so many of us. I, too, hope that Cord and the rest of the LotRO team are getting in their much-needed vacations. They are going to be busy when the expansion launches.

[elvenes]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

there was no mention of any drama from anyone but I guess you want to start the drama?

[Arnenna]

Thanks for the information. We can live with delayed patch notes and messages in different places saying different things about the reason for the downtime. The game will be back when it is back and the changes will be what they are regardless so it doesn't really matter, other than giving those that need drama their daily fix.

Hold on there. People were confused by conflicting messages and delayed patch notes are always going to raise attention. The only drama in here, is your post.

[Offenberg]

(It's a small bug fix patch.)

2 bug fixes and 9 hour maintenance. Seems a little disproportional and not something you'd get up at 4 am to sort out.

Oh well.

[Plidak]

"Gameplay Fix

Instance bosses with the 'Unyielding' effect have been taught once again to correctly shrug off Incoming Healing debuffs from players"

Like which boss ?

[Gaiandrial]

Working on it. Cordovan is on a much deserved vacation.

(It's a small bug fix patch.)

Sev~

Let me get this straight. It takes you guys 9 hours ..... for a SMALL bug-fix patch? That's the Best info you can provide to those who may lose a full day of gameplay?

Ummmm, okay.

Soooo, when does Cord get back? Soon?

[istvana]

Incredible. We all complain about server performance and when they give us extended maintenance starting early in the morning (their time) as well as a small bug fix we complain that the servers are down too long. Probably some of the same people that said that SSG didn't care about lag and wasn't doing anything.

Granted the extended maintenance may not help server performance but if they are telling the truth that all those extra hours are for extended maintenance - what *else* could it be for than to do *something* useful to the servers?

[Arnenna]

Let me get this straight. It takes you guys 9 hours ..... for a SMALL bug-fix patch? That's the Best info you can provide to those who may lose a full day of gameplay?

Ummmm, okay.

Soooo, when does Cord get back? Soon?

Probably only an hour dedicated to the bug fixes. The bulk of the downtime is very likely dedicated to maintenance - which is stated clearly on the announcement.

[Plidak]

Incredible. We all complain about server performance and when they give us extended maintenance starting early in the morning (their time) as well as a small bug fix we complain that the servers are down too long. Probably some of the same people that said that SSG didn't care about lag and wasn't doing anything.

Granted the extended maintenance may not help server performance but if they are telling the truth that all those extra hours are for extended maintenance - what *else* could it be for than to do *something* useful to the servers?

The ONE fix they made, dont even afect server performance.

Hope fest have some new rewards.

[maartena]

2 bug fixes and 9 hour maintenance. Seems a little disproportional and not something you'd get up at 4 am to sort out.

Oh well.

Maintenance and Patching do not always have anything to do with each other. Sometimes they do, most of the time they don't.

Maintenance: Changing the oil in your car, changing the brake fluid, replacing a broken lightbulb, topping off the wiper fluid, washing the outside, vacuuming the inside....

Patching: Fixing the "ticking" sound you keep hearing while shifting to second gear (patch: second gear cogwheel slightly off balance, open gear box, rebalance or replace)

Maintenance usually means they reboot a whole lot of stuff to clear out memory and start fresh, much like just rebooting your Windows computer, only in the case of this game there is a whole cluster of servers that need to be shut down in a certain order, and then brought back up in a certain order (e.g. don't load the login server before the user database, things like that). Besides reboots, they may run some scripts to clean up temporary files from each server in the cluster or scripts to reset certain values to default..... they may look at the space used by each server cluster and shift some resources around..... and they may do a few things about lag on the back end systems.

As this is an ancient game that keeps growing and growing and growing in landscape size, they need to do this weekly maintenance to keep the game as healthy as possible. Sometimes maintenance AND a patch happen together, and sometimes the maintenance is bigger than normal because they are upgrading things (could be hardware, could be system/OS patching, etc).

In any case, "Maintenance" means you get nothing new. "Patching" usually means something changes about the game, from very miniscule to major.

[Arnenna]

The ONE fix they made, dont even afect server performance.

Hope fest have some new rewards.

The extended maintenance might though. I've seen maintenance downtimes that have done nothing to help, and some that make it worse. I've also seen some that make a good improvement. Let's just hope that this is one such time.

[maartena]

Let me get this straight. It takes you guys 9 hours ..... for a SMALL bug-fix patch? That's the Best info you can provide to those who may lose a full day of gameplay?

Ummmm, okay.

Soooo, when does Cord get back? Soon?

1) You must have missed the word "maintenance". If you do not understand what that means, see my post above.

2) Cordovan is on vacation. I do not know how things work in your country or state, but even though the USA isn't known for getting MANY vacation days, we do like to take them and enjoy time with our families. This is what Cordovan is doing RIGHT NOW. Let him have some downtime.....

[istvana]

"The ONE fix they made, dont even afect server performance."

This seems to be a difficult concept for some of us but the bug fixes in the patch notes reflect maybe one hour of the down time. The rest is extended maintenance. Neither you nor I knows just what they are doing for all that time or how helpful it will be for server performance.

[Aedon]

Amok amok amok!!!

[Plidak]

"The ONE fix they made, dont even afect server performance."

This seems to be a difficult concept for some of us but the bug fixes in the patch notes reflect maybe one hour of the down time. The rest is extended maintenance. Neither you nor I knows just what they are doing for all that time or how helpful it will be for server performance.

Dont get me wrong, im ok with the changes. Even if no of them concern me.
Now launch servers in time and lets have fest

[BentoIce]

1) You must have missed the word "maintenance". If you do not understand what that means, see my post above.

2) Cordovan is on vacation. I do not know how things work in your country or state, but even though the USA isn't known for getting MANY vacation days, we do like to take them and enjoy time with our families. This is what Cordovan is doing RIGHT NOW. Let him have some downtime.....

Not trying to start a war here, but do you realize the downtime announcement on the launcher was changed? Where initially (yesterday) it said "extended maintenance" now (today) all it offers is "our regular weekly restart". Not surprising that people will speculate on why the "standard weekly restart" takes 9 hours instead of 2. Just sayin'