Names in Middle-Earth, Quick Guide

[Noromir]

I used the name Heofonfyr for my hunter, and am soooo very happy with that (I might rename my LM to that one day). I love taking ages researching and finding the best fit for a particular character, I've even used the name change feature halfway through, when I've found a better name.

I am looking for a new name for my Runekeeper, he is called Equinox right now (which indicates balance between night and day, or healing and damage in this case), but I would like something more dwarfish is a similar vein.

This is a great thread!

[Berephon]

Can someone let me know if these names translate into anything? I didn't use a generator when creating these characters and just tried to come up with something Tolkien-ish.

Saelen (my Loremaster) and Berioreth (my Warden)

Well, Saelen could be an improper construction of sael + en (article meaning "of the") = "Of the Wise", Sael + suffix -en (Wise One), Sael + lend (Wise Journey). I say improper construction, because the first example would actually be En Sael, the second the suffix is used to turn a noun into an adjective, not the other way around, and the third would be Saellen, but they are all close.

For the latter, alas, I cannot be of aid.

[Deusdictum]

Oo oo! Try mine: Siheriel and Phyrricor

[Feldenak]

Well, Saelen could be an improper construction of sael + en (article meaning "of the") = "Of the Wise", Sael + suffix -en (Wise One), Sael + lend (Wise Journey). I say improper construction, because the first example would actually be En Sael, the second the suffix is used to turn a noun into an adjective, not the other way around, and the third would be Saellen, but they are all close.

For the latter, alas, I cannot be of aid.

Thanks. Considering the only reference material I used was my copy of LotR, I can live with an improper construction of "Of the Wise".

[Benucio]

Well, Saelen could be an improper construction of sael + en (article meaning "of the") = "Of the Wise", Sael + suffix -en (Wise One), Sael + lend (Wise Journey).

So the opposite of "Sael" + "En" would be "Barrow" + "Bree"

[Berephon]

Oo oo! Try mine: Siheriel and Phyrricor

For the first, it could be an improper construct of the adverbs Si (Now) or Sí (Here) + the verb Heria- (have an impulse, be compelled to do something, begin suddenly & vigorously) + the feminine suffix -iel.

"She who is now impulsive" or "She who is impulsive here"

The latter I can't be of help with.

[Darej]

hey berephon....wanting a name for a elf that means beautiful lady or something close to that....any ideas??

[muleskinner2]

I named my RK Dwarf Mithfang. I was hoping to get Grey beard from that as the description is appropriate for me and my dwarf. Is the usage wrong or did I achieve what I set out to do?

Thanks in advance

[EK067]

I remember seeing this thread a long time ago and thinking, 'that's a good one.'

The first name I made up for a PnP elf was Erulin. This was over a decade ago mind you. And come to find out in the last few years it has some meaning in elvish. Something along the lines of God's water or tears... maybe holy water. Anyone know for sure how this would be read?

[Berephon]

hey berephon....wanting a name for a elf that means beautiful lady or something close to that....any ideas??

Baimbassoneth, Baimbessain, Baimbrennil, Baimdí, Bainheryn, Bainhiril

[Berephon]

I named my RK Dwarf Mithfang. I was hoping to get Grey beard from that as the description is appropriate for me and my dwarf. Is the usage wrong or did I achieve what I set out to do?

Thanks in advance

You are correct!

[Berephon]

I remember seeing this thread a long time ago and thinking, 'that's a good one.'

The first name I made up for a PnP elf was Erulin. This was over a decade ago mind you. And come to find out in the last few years it has some meaning in elvish. Something along the lines of God's water or tears... maybe holy water. Anyone know for sure how this would be read?

It could be Eru (the One--for all intents and purposes, God) or Eru (desert, waste) + Lîn (lake, pool--though that would usually become Lín) or Lind (song, air, tune, singer)

So it would be Pool of the One, Lake of the One, Song of the One, or Singer of the One (or "of the Desert")

[muleskinner2]

You are correct!

Yeah! My first attempt. Thanks again for prompt reply.

BTW, I have read all your books and really enjoyed them. Anxiously awaiting the next.

[EK067]

It could be Eru (the One--for all intents and purposes, God) or Eru (desert, waste) + Lîn (lake, pool--though that would usually become Lín) or Lind (song, air, tune, singer)

So it would be Pool of the One, Lake of the One, Song of the One, or Singer of the One (or "of the Desert")

Thank Berephon. Great explanation.


on a side note, I rolled a dwarf RK the other day and named him Yurbin.

Yurbin = Rune keeper in dwarvish? (I know, lame)

[Darej]

Baimbassoneth, Baimbessain, Baimbrennil, Baimdí, Bainheryn, Bainhiril

WOW...thems alot of choices...thanks...you are the man.

[Belegwe]

My latest has been Dimlindo (Sorrowsinger/Sorrowsong/Gloomsinger). Should be a circumflex or accent in there, but the game gets rid of them. I spent a few hundred silver going back and forth on the surname on dim- vs dem- and lindo (singer-male ending) vs lind. Which way you do it and why goes back a bit in the language's history, but I stuck with Dimlindo. Demlindo was a close runner up.

[Berephon]

Thank Berephon. Great explanation.


on a side note, I rolled a dwarf RK the other day and named him Yurbin.

Yurbin = Rune keeper in dwarvish? (I know, lame)

The closest I could come up with for RK in our pseudo-Khuzdul construct is Hufz-charuf (keeper of runes). However, dwarves generally use the language of the North-men (Old Norse--more specifically of the Old Gutnish variety), as they do not believe in revealing their true names to non-dwarves.

And never say "lame" to describe your character's name, unless it is Ayiz Lolcatz.

[Berephon]

My latest has been Dimlindo (Sorrowsinger/Sorrowsong/Gloomsinger). Should be a circumflex or accent in there, but the game gets rid of them. I spent a few hundred silver going back and forth on the surname on dim- vs dem- and lindo (singer-male ending) vs lind. Which way you do it and why goes back a bit in the language's history, but I stuck with Dimlindo. Demlindo was a close runner up.

Lindo is indeed the Old Sindarin word for "singer." Dem would be an adjectival form of Sad or Gloomy, so for your construct Dim was the correct choice (unless you wanted Old Sindarin, which would be Dimbe, but Dimbelindo is a bit of a mouthful.)

[Belegwe]

Lindo is indeed the Old Sindarin word for "singer." Dem would be an adjectival form of Sad or Gloomy, so for your construct Dim was the correct choice (unless you wanted Old Sindarin, which would be Dimbe, but Dimbelindo is a bit of a mouthful.)

Yep, dimbelindo was in the running too, but it inspired to may images of a big-eared elephant, so...

And, dim being the noun form was the reason for it winning... dem would have changed the meaning altogether, but I liked the current meaning better

[Tyndall]

Just popping in to say "Thanks" Berephon. It's nice of you to give\take like this.

Nice touch.

[EK067]

Ayiz Lolcatz = lame in elvish

kthx

[Feldenak]

Just popping in to say "Thanks" Berephon. It's nice of you to give\take like this.

Nice touch.

Indeed it is.

[Arkarianor]

Naurâth (well, Naurath for game purposes): Black speech for Werewolf-dog.

That's awesome

You rock, sir.

My friend is rolling a new warg along with my rank 10 one, do you happen to have any other ideas? You are quite good at this

It's really awesome that people can come here and get such accurate and amazing names, thank you for doing this

[Arkarianor]

Also, I like Naurath, are there any variations that would work also? Naugrath for example (would that mean dwarf wolf though?).

[Berephon]

Also, I like Naurath, are there any variations that would work also? Naugrath for example (would that mean dwarf wolf though?).

Two different languages. naur (werewolf) + âth (dog) are Black Speech. Naug (stunted) is the Sindarin root used in Naugrim (stunted people). Our pseudo Black Speech source is even more limited than our pseudo Kuzdul (hence why you've probably noticed a few more duplicate Orc/Troll/Warg names sprouting up.)