Missing quests in Dunland?

[Urshurak]

So, starting off at level 65, I did all the quests in Bonevales, Trum Dreng and Galtrev. The quest deeds show that all were completed. In fact, I actually did 32 quests in Galtrev, where it lists 30 in the deeds.

Did all the quests I could see in Avardin (Starkmoor), but the deeds show 4 missed. Looked everywhere but, just cannot find those other 4 quests. Level 67 now and the next area, the marshes, are level 71.

Went back to the epic questline and followed it to Tal Methedras, which was correct for level. Completed all the quests there, and was forwarded to Nona, who again pointed me to the marshes at level 68.

So, have I missed something here that takes me to a complete quest hub for level 69-71? And anyone have any ideas where those elusive 4 quests for Avardin might be?

[atbuff_06]

There is a camp north of Barnovan just before u get to the Gravenwood area. It has wargs & warg-riders in it. I skipped over it my 1st time through because no quests lead to it. I was working on my exploration deed last night and needed this camp. So I killed a few mobs at the door so I could get far enough to get credit for the exploration deed. One of the mobs I killed dropped an item that started a quest chain for the camp. I think it ends up with at least 4 maybe 5 quests for this camp. This also finished off my quest deed that I was also 4 short on after doing all the quests from Barnovan I could find.

[Urshurak]

Egh - Got mixed up with the towns. Should be Avardin in Starkmoor, not Barnovan.

[Berephon]

So, starting off at level 65, I did all the quests in Bonevales, Trum Dreng and Galtrev. The quest deeds show that all were completed. In fact, I actually did 32 quests in Galtrev, where it lists 30 in the deeds.

Did all the quests I could see in Avardin (Starkmoor), but the deeds show 4 missed. Looked everywhere but, just cannot find those other 4 quests. Level 67 now and the next area, the marshes, are level 71.

Went back to the epic questline and followed it to Tal Methedras, which was correct for level. Completed all the quests there, and was forwarded to Nona, who again pointed me to the marshes at level 68.

So, have I missed something here that takes me to a complete quest hub for level 69-71? And anyone have any ideas where those elusive 4 quests for Avardin might be?

Item bestowed quests are generally not counted in the deed, since not everyone is going to get them, hence the overage in Trum Dreng. I can't speak to where the Starkmoor quests are that you missed.

[atbuff_06]

Well hopefully someone can help then, because I'm also missing 4 quests from Starkmoor and have no idea where they are. The only quest I haven't done is the culling pit quest since it's a fellowship quest. Quite a few in my kin are also in this spot missing 4 quests. We were discussing this in kin chat last night actually, don't think we ever came to a conclusion on where to find the missing quests though.

[Laivindur]

I can help you only with Avardin quests. at Avardin there is a place called The Pit, there are 4 challenges-quests but you need a fellowship for them!!!

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[Berephon]

I can help you only with Avardin quests. at Avardin there is a place called The Pit, there are 4 challenges-quests but you need a fellowship for them!!!

Ding! Just looked into the quest files...the designer left them marked for deed completion. My suggestion...move along. After these are fixed (and the fixes go live), you'll get an auto-complete for the deed. They should not be counting towards the deed.

[Berephon]

For the Starkmoors quest deed the missing 4 quests are from The Culling Pit located just outside Avardin.

There are a series of 4 challenge quests that must be completed with a Fellowship of 6 players.
So start looking for groups forming for The Culling Pit in order to finish the quest deed there.

Gonna be a challenge to get this deed completed on all chars once the novelty of the new zone wears off and nearly everyone has completed the zone(s).

Answered above.

[Grhysli]

For the Starkmoors quest deed the missing 4 quests are from The Culling Pit located just outside Avardin.

There are a series of 4 challenge quests that must be completed with a Fellowship of 6 players.
So start looking for groups forming for The Culling Pit in order to finish the quest deed there.

Gonna be a challenge to get this deed completed on all chars once the novelty of the new zone wears off and nearly everyone has completed the zone(s).

[Berephon]

For the Starkmoors quest deed the missing 4 quests are from The Culling Pit located just outside Avardin.

There are a series of 4 challenge quests that must be completed with a Fellowship of 6 players.
So start looking for groups forming for The Culling Pit in order to finish the quest deed there.

Gonna be a challenge to get this deed completed on all chars once the novelty of the new zone wears off and nearly everyone has completed the zone(s).

Wow, I time-travelled. See my answer way above.

[MurkyMajare]

Item bestowed quests are generally not counted in the deed, since not everyone is going to get them, hence the overage in Trum Dreng. I can't speak to where the Starkmoor quests are that you missed.

Are you sure about that Berephon?

Because I have come across many that do count towards the deeds in all the different zone I have been in so far.

[Crell_1]

Item bestowed quests are generally not counted in the deed, since not everyone is going to get them, hence the overage in Trum Dreng. I can't speak to where the Starkmoor quests are that you missed.

Interesting. It took me doing every item drop quest that I could find to open up hubs and complete every quest deed (except for the one known to be bugged)

I did have to do the 1 more quest in in the Pit of Iron on a second day to get the 30 of 30 (I was at 29/30 doing 'everything' else.)
...No clue what I'm missing. The only quest rings I see in the world at this point are dailies.

[Urshurak]

Ding! Just looked into the quest files...the designer left them marked for deed completion. My suggestion...move along. After these are fixed (and the fixes go live), you'll get an auto-complete for the deed. They should not be counting towards the deed.

Ok, thanks for answering that. Relief to know I didn't miss any.
However, that still leaves the question, why is there such a gap between there and the marshes? I still get a feeling I may have missed something as i'm level 68 facing level 71 quests now. Not happened before in any other area.

Don't get me wrong, I can handle the 3 level difference fine but, just seems a bit odd to me.

[Berephon]

Are you sure about that Berephon?

Because I have come across many that do count towards the deeds in all the different zone I have been in so far.

Many may count towards the deed, but the deed count shouldn't include them (in other words, the number of actual quests in the zone should exceed the number needed for the deed.) Fellowship quests and item bestowed quests (unless the item is auto-bestowed by the previous quest--there are a couple in Gravenwood) should not be required for the deed, though they may actually count, allowing you to complete the deed a little early. If they are required, it is a bug.

[Berephon]

Ok, thanks for answering that. Relief to know I didn't miss any.
However, that still leaves the question, why is there such a gap between there and the marshes? I still get a feeling I may have missed something as i'm level 68 facing level 71 quests now. Not happened before in any other area.

Don't get me wrong, I can handle the 3 level difference fine but, just seems a bit odd to me.

Questing alone will only get you most of the way through a level. Skirmishes, landscape kills, and other sidebars are expected to maintain the level per division ratio.

[Crell_1]

Many may count towards the deed, but the deed count shouldn't include them (in other words, the number of actual quests in the zone should exceed the number needed for the deed.) Fellowship quests and item bestowed quests (unless the item is auto-bestowed by the previous quest--there are a couple in Gravenwood) should not be required for the deed, though they may actually count, allowing you to complete the deed a little early. If they are required, it is a bug.

While I can't confirm that they are required (obviously, I dont know if there's a phasing arc or something I've missed/broken).. I highly suspect this to be true, in multiple hubs. Forthbrand & Heithfields being the worst offender.; Perhaps something's broken in the thing that auto-tabulates the totals for inclusion in your quest deeds?

The quest arc I'm thinking of that drove my fellowship crazy was Item drop->Miniboss->Item drop->Defend Dwarf->ITEM DROP->Vector to hub.

All item drops were NOT 100%, so we had to grind each point of that multiple times until we got the items.

[Berephon]

While I can't confirm that they are required (obviously, I dont know if there's a phasing arc or something I've missed/broken).. I highly suspect this to be true, in multiple hubs. Forthbrand & Heithfields being the worst offender.; Perhaps something's broken in the thing that auto-tabulates the totals for inclusion in your quest deeds?

The quest arc I'm thinking of that drove my fellowship crazy was Item drop->Miniboss->Item drop->Defend Dwarf->ITEM DROP->Vector to hub.

All item drops were NOT 100%, so we had to grind each point of that multiple times until we got the items.

Ouch...which division? (I'm guessing one of the two you specifically call out.)

[Hitomo]

... will only get you most of the way through a level. Skirmishes, landscape kills, and other sidebars are expected to maintain the level per division ratio.

why was this changed? last time in mirkwood there where plenty more quests available then you would need to get to max-level ... it is to make room for the new- quest xp advancment item, isnt it?

'Skirmishes, landscape kills, and other sidebars' ... where always optional in lotro
and as far as Iam aware of, there are no new skirmishes in RoI, are there?

why is grind now also needed to reach the level-cap regardless if you have bought the quest-packs or not?

greetz

[Urshurak]

Questing alone will only get you most of the way through a level. Skirmishes, landscape kills, and other sidebars are expected to maintain the level per division ratio.

Well, seeing as i've come across no skirmishes in Dunland as yet, I can only assume I did not gain enough xp from monster kills. As premium player, I get no rest xp so, I guess xp items from the store are a requirement for this zone if you don't want to grind mobs for the levels.

Unless you are suggesting to go back to older content skirmishes to raise level? In which case, the content value of this expansion seems to be getting less by the day.

EDIT: Hmm, I see the poster above me also sees the point.
I really hope the way forward isn't to deliberately place an inconvenience into content to force players to buy the convenience items to counteract that. That will do Lotro no favours at all...

[Malachi108]

why was this changed? last time in mirkwood there where plenty more quests available then you would need to get to max-level ... it is to make room for the new- quest xp advancment item, isnt it?

'Skirmishes, landscape kills, and other sidebars' ... where always optional in lotro
and as far as Iam aware of, there are no new skirmishes in RoI, are there?

why is grind now also needed to reach the level-cap regardless if you have bought the quest-packs or not?

Only people with his problem are those just starting Isengard. Once we do some deed grinding and skirmishes to reach 75, others won't have this problem - in fact they would be at L70 mark after finishing Mirkwood and Enedwaith before they even head to Dunland.

[DorianFalkenmond]

wasnt there a beta?

[Crell_1]

Ouch...which division? (I'm guessing one of the two you specifically call out.)

... The quest line I'm whining with the item drops is above NONE of the objects were 100% drop rate. I cant seem to follow it all the way back but one quest is 'Herald of the Rohirrim'


..As for my other comment, Is there any chance you can easily compare my signature character's quest log to the list of item drops and other completed quests . Specifically Heithfields, and Carregylnn to see if I'm missing any? .. Neither zone would have had nearly this many quests without the item drops (which I know not to be 100% because I've had to send other people back for them.)

.Some people are having a hard time getting whatever gates the quests in Dol Baran.

The Pit is its own monstrosity. I spent 3hrs trying to get to the overseer without falling through the landscape, and I'm almost constantly stuck in combat despite having no mobs around. The only recourse to fix it seems to be relogging.

Even now that I have 2 paths that work pretty well to get to the Overseer, its still hard for people to follow me to him without falling through.





I can tell you i had to do the 2 dailies in Iron pit to get to 29/30 quests for Heithfields deed. ; Going back in today for a daily finished it. I have no other quest markers in that hub.:

Currently my quest rings are 'dailies in Galtrev', 'dailies in Isengard Proper', and the start of the dragon arc (you arent' a high enough level to get this quest, come back later). I'm Level 74.

[NukerOfWales]

I'm currenty 74 with 69k needed for 75, I finished the last quest (dailies) in Isen when I hit 74 and have spent all day today trying to find the quests I'm told I've missed.

I've gone into each area and killed at least 40 of each target to see if there is an item drop, with doing this I have found 2 Items off warg-riders the first opened 4 more quests and while completing these I found another item for the second quest.

These are the only items I found, somebody hit 75 infront of me today so I quickly asked them to compare quest lists with me. To my shock I had completed more quests than this player, I also checked Slayer and Explorer deeds with them to which they still had 3 explorer deeds and only 1 slayer deeds on advanced to which I have no explorer deeds and 3 slayers on advanced (compared numbers of kills and I had more on each deed).

He also had quests left to start and finish in Isen and Heathfells to which I have completed them all. I asked if they had used the Quest Exp Boost item and they promised that they hadn't. They also didn't do any Enedwraith quest after RoI went live so there was no exp boost from that. Other things to note is this person didn't do any skirmishes or instances(outside of a quest instance), played solo and hasn't done the 4 pit quests (same as me)

So my question is,

Player A, has finished the most quests and has more kills, hits level 74 and runs out of quests and has a whole level (over 600k) still to go.

Player B. has finished less quests, less kills, no exp boost used and hit level 75 a few quests into Isen with plenty of quests still to go.

How did it happen? I'm not the only person it has happend to either, I've seen quite a few people shouting about it on the server.

Other things to note, we are both ViP and had rested exp, mine ran out about level 68 his around 70, I used DP to get some added Monster kill exp but he didn't, and as stated I have completed all the same quests as him and more!

[maxximus_EU]

im also having trouble finding quest to do now. i've done all quest i found in all the hubs and dropquest i could find but im still only 73 with 170k to go to 74 and i have no idea what i have missed. feels like i have missed a huge part of dunland/gap/isengard but i just can figure out where to go after doing the last quest in orthanc.