Middle-earth Feedback: Glorfindel

[Saffron]

Meet one of the most powerful of all the Eldar, Glorfindel!

Post your comments below!

[Maeh]

Awesome! I'm glad you got the hair color right!



I can only hope he will give me a super secret quest to achieve the long lost gestures of the mighty /teapot.

[Nabil]

How exciting! I only wish that Glorfindel played a larger role in the latter stages of LOTR, though I suppose that without his aid, the ring would have never made it to Rivendell in the first place.

[avlee]

How exciting! I only wish that Glorfindel played a larger role in the latter stages of LOTR, though I suppose that without his aid, the ring would have never made it to Rivendell in the first place.

Who knows? Maybe he was doing some behind-the-scenes action that we'll get to help out with!

Also, I wanna see an Elf-lord's wrath! That has to be awesome.

[Heir]

Gah, you guys didn't mention his history in the Silmarillion, which adds a lot more depth to him (imo).

He was the only Eldar to ever die, return to Valinor, and be allowed to come back to Middle-Earth. He slew a Balrog (at the cost of his own life) too.

In summation: Glorfindel is truly someone you'd like to have on your side. They shoulda ditched Pippen and taken him instead.

[Forohir]

Gah, you guys didn't mention his history in the Silmarillion, which adds a lot more depth to him (imo).

He was the only Eldar to ever die, return to Valinor, and be allowed to come back to Middle-Earth. He slew a Balrog (at the cost of his own life) too.

In summation: Glorfindel is truly someone you'd like to have on your side. They shoulda ditched Pippen and taken him instead.

That's still debated (whether it's the same Glorfindel or not). Tolkien himself originally said it was not intentional that they have the same name, but then later consented to fans' belief/desire.

I have some feedback on him in-game: considering that he is a mighty warrior, and these are dark times, might we see him wearing a little bit of fancy armour or weapons? I know he's just chilling by a waterfall, but it would make him a bit more impressive.

[MightyM]

Gah, you guys didn't mention his history in the Silmarillion, which adds a lot more depth to him (imo).

He was the only Eldar to ever die, return to Valinor, and be allowed to come back to Middle-Earth. He slew a Balrog (at the cost of his own life) too.

In summation: Glorfindel is truly someone you'd like to have on your side. They shoulda ditched Pippen and taken him instead.

I don't believe Turbine has rights to the Silmarillion lore/content, which is likely why there was no mention of him and the fall of Gondolin (that's where he theoretically slew a balrog, no?).

-MM

[Lux]

Yea, he slew a Balrog during the fall of Gondolin.

As for whether or not it is the same Glorfindel, the simple fact is that Tolkien had said Elves don't reuse names. He most likely did reuse the name as an accident, but that does not change the fact that he LEFT IT and thus made them the same character. End of story, as far as I'm concerned.

I have a feeling Glorfindel will play a big role in the game, simply because he did NOT play a big role in the books and yet he was obviously a major power in Middle-Earth, much like Radagast. The game has truly made me appreciate that there was in fact a lot going on besides the Fellowship, and I love it. Too bad the in-game cutscenes are so LotR-centric, and really have nothing at all to do with the game we're playing. Who came up with those? Bleh.

[Forohir]

Yea, he slew a Balrog during the fall of Gondolin.

As for whether or not it is the same Glorfindel, the simple fact is that Tolkien had said Elves don't reuse names. He most likely did reuse the name as an accident, but that does not change the fact that he LEFT IT and thus made them the same character. End of story, as far as I'm concerned.

I have a feeling Glorfindel will play a big role in the game, simply because he did NOT play a big role in the books and yet he was obviously a major power in Middle-Earth, much like Radagast. The game has truly made me appreciate that there was in fact a lot going on besides the Fellowship, and I love it. Too bad the in-game cutscenes are so LotR-centric, and really have nothing at all to do with the game we're playing. Who came up with those? Bleh.

Yes, they are rather bland and ultimately not very satisfying when compared with the films (I mean, the imagery of Gandalf being rescued from Orthanc is almost identical to that in the movies... Gwaihir flying over mountains etc.).

I think it would have been awesome if the cutscenes had been told from the enemy's point of view. Perhaps a council between the Witch-King, Ivar, and Skorgrim, talking about their successes and defeats against the rising tide of Free Peoples in Eriador.

[Sangahyando]

Yea, he slew a Balrog during the fall of Gondolin.

As for whether or not it is the same Glorfindel, the simple fact is that Tolkien had said Elves don't reuse names. He most likely did reuse the name as an accident, but that does not change the fact that he LEFT IT and thus made them the same character. End of story, as far as I'm concerned.

Indeed! Taking all into account, Tolkien even stated later on that Glorfindel was one and the same from both books, sent back sometime around that of the Maiar; namely, Olórin, Curumo, Aiwendil, Alatar/Morinehtar, and Pallando/Roméstamó.

[Palenen]

Indeed! Taking all into account, Tolkien even stated later on that Glorfindel was one and the same from both books, sent back sometime around that of the Maiar; namely, Olórin, Curumo, Aiwendil, Alatar, and Pallando.

Originally, there was nothing stated he was sent back. The best resource about Tolkien's works concerning the World of Arda and Middle-Earth is http://www.glyphweb.com/ARDA/g/glorfindel.html The last paragraph on that write up pretty much sums it up.

It's a wonder why they choose highly debated topics here on the forums. If it's NOT mentioned in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, they will use it here in Lord of the Rings Online and twist it to their own concepts.

[Sojourner]

I'm just glad Glorfindel gets some attention in LoTRO! The poor guy was written out of both the animated movie and PJ's films. Heck, even Farmer Maggot got mentioned by PJ, and arguably a voice-cameo as well (though it really didn't do the character justice either).

[branix]

I'm sorry but a guy in an ugly dress is not very imposing or awe inspiring. That's about as bland a picture as I have ever seen. I've seen level 15 characters in mismatched armor who looked more powerful.

[Sangahyando]

Originally, there was nothing stated he was sent back. The best resource about Tolkien's works concerning the World of Arda and Middle-Earth is http://www.glyphweb.com/ARDA/g/glorfindel.html The last paragraph on that write up pretty much sums it up.

Originally, you are correct, but when the question was asked of Tolkien, he quickly summarized his thoughts on the matter--essentially, Glorfindel is one and the same. As Lux stated as well, Elves don't reuse or take each others' names.

Unfortunately, the resource you gave is not known to be faulty. I'm pretty sure other Tolkien "lorists" around here would back up that statement. It is also outdated. Simply speaking, it can't be given the universal statement that it's the best resource out there on Tolkien's works concerning the World of Arda. Canon, straight from Christopher Tolkien or The Professor himself is always better. Though the wiki is not a good source for canonical material, this excerpt on Glorfindel is fairly accurate, and the sources used within the text are correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorfindel

It may be also noted that in Tolkien's original draft of the Lord of the Rings his intentions on Glorfindel's identity were clear where Glorfindel references his ancestry going back to Gondolin.

[riverlethe]

I'm sorry but a guy in an ugly dress is not very imposing or awe inspiring. That's about as bland a picture as I have ever seen. I've seen level 15 characters in mismatched armor who looked more powerful.

Why would an elf-lord go out of his way to look "imposing?"

[Gumawerian]

Glorfindel was said to be terrifying when his wrath was evoked, but otherwise I always saw him as rather bright and uplifting. It's one of the qualities I hope to see in his dialogues in the future.

[arent]

Why would an elf-lord go out of his way to look "imposing?"

Good point. It's not a fashion show. I don't think he feels he needs to impress anyone, so like most of us, he's just lounging around in his elf version of jammies and sweats

[lynxrikard]

and partially it's probably because he's Glorfindel. I mean if you saw, say, Mike Tyson in sweatpants and a sweatshirt, woudl you really give him **** about not looking 'imposing' enough to you?

[Redbeaver]

if the guy can slew a Balrog.... he got all the right in the (LOTR) world to look like anything he wants to.... i mean, anybody that can stand a chance to go toe-to-toe with the guy would probably be smart enough not to insult his appearence...

anyway,
woo, wrath of an elf... ive yet to see one...

[Zyrxagor00]

Yea, he slew a Balrog during the fall of Gondolin.

As for whether or not it is the same Glorfindel, the simple fact is that Tolkien had said Elves don't reuse names. He most likely did reuse the name as an accident, but that does not change the fact that he LEFT IT and thus made them the same character. End of story, as far as I'm concerned.

I have a feeling Glorfindel will play a big role in the game, simply because he did NOT play a big role in the books and yet he was obviously a major power in Middle-Earth, much like Radagast. The game has truly made me appreciate that there was in fact a lot going on besides the Fellowship, and I love it. Too bad the in-game cutscenes are so LotR-centric, and really have nothing at all to do with the game we're playing. Who came up with those? Bleh.

If you read the new book (The Children of Hurin) this view is supported by Christopher Tolkien and his father's notes. Glorfindel is presented in the story as the same Glorfindel who would much later save Frodo's life in his flight to the fords of Bruinen.

[Gumawerian]

If you read the new book (The Children of Hurin) this view is supported by Christopher Tolkien and his father's notes. Glorfindel is presented in the story as the same Glorfindel who would much later save Frodo's life in his flight to the fords of Bruinen.

Glorfindel fell to his death during his fight with the Balrog (which also died) only to be returned to Middle-earth from the Hall of Mandos (which is sort of like reincarnation). Glorfindel was said to be special because he was reincarnated under the same name, if I recall correctly.

The point is, he was terrifying in his wrath, but inspired hope when he was at peace, much the way other heroes do in the game.

[zephyrzucchini]

I think the whole Glorfindel re-incarnated or not isssue is a matter of choice. Tolkien was rathe runclear on the issue so i beleive that it's the fans choice. I, personally, think that it was the same Glorfindel, as the parralels between the two. But also, its just who he is to me.
Sorry about the awful grammar and spelling...I'm rather harried right now

[GLORFlNDEL]

I always loved this line from the book:

"Few even in Rivendel can ride openly against the nine but, such as there are Elrond has sent"

[Sojourner]

I always loved this line from the book:

"Few even in Rivendel can ride openly against the nine but, such as there are Elrond has sent"

When you are as powerful as Glorfindel, you can afford to be very humble.

[gornod]

When you are as powerful as Glorfinel, you can afford to be very humble.

But don't call him Goldilocks or you will be very sorry!