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  1. #276
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    You know where it is the first page for the goat after speaking with thorin

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit1968 View Post
    Ok, thanks. Ill try the DEL trick. was probably hidden in a wall.
    It was hidden in a little alcove when I found it. It was set where you couldn't see it unless you were almost right in front of it and facing towards it.
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    Since the runa are translated not that to make follow like after the first page

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    Nameless

    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
    I really enjoyed the quest. Please do more in the future. My only criticism would be please leave the quest line connective tissue in place as we move through the objectives. It was very confusing to have the quest simply end, and not know there was another step without reading the forums. I realize you wanted us to participate as a community, but these dead ends felt more like simply looking for spoilers as a short cut, rather than trying to figure something out in a cooperative fashion.

    Otherwise, loved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
    Thanks for stepping out and thanks for the great lotro workout. I do hope to see more of it in the future. That page numbering thing is sneaky (you sneaky thing lol), but makes perfect sense now. Poor Nar, there he was for a day or two, totally the centre of attention, only to be undone by a handful of paper

    Great job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
    One possible altered version could be having "Nameless, In Exile" as it gives both the cipher key and the lead to go see Nar in Zudrugund.

    Typing out the cipher, that makes more sense:

    LETTERS: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
    CIPHER: N A M E L S B C D F G H I J K O P Q R T U V W X Y Z

    Nevermind, I'm in idiot.

    After solving the cipher, there's the line "None but the line of Durin may know of it"

    Last king in Erebor was Thor (before the time in exile). So he would be the last dwarf to know.

    >> Thror's Coomb -> Zudrugund. Which was also his last place of residence before venturing back into Moria to be slain by Azog the defiler, Nar being the confidant of Thror at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
    Now it all makes sense!!!

    Thank you so much for this , amazing job ! I really had an awesome afternoon yesterday!
    Hope to see more in the future and i am confident it will get better and better !

    No more skips for us ! Make it so we actually have to solve the mystery before being able to advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle
    That was great fun! good job! I had fun translating the runes myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LansuEV View Post
    Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.

    Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
    Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!

    Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
    Monoalphabetic Substitution Cipher. Brilliant.

    Then i apologize and i retract my prior critique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwarfMover View Post
    What bat cave?
    The one underneath Way...nvm.
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    I still can't help but feel that the quest lacks some connective tissue between the coded pages from the chests and the runes. On their own both just seem to be dead ends with no reason to connect them.

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    One other criticism, and I don't really super care, but felt it should be noted, by sending us to Moria, you are in essence sending us back in time. At that point in the progression of the game, the Iron Garrison has been driven out Moria. So you really shouldn't have been sending us there.
    Phrasing! Doesn't anybody do phrasing anymore?

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    So I talked to Orring in Thorin's hall and he suggested I go find Rúnvarth. I have searched and cannot find any other reference to Rúnvarth. I don't know where I'm supposed to be directed to now. I know what the forums tell me to do. But I want to know why I should go to a bat cave.....what am I missing that indicates I should go there..?

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    Angry Calas Caladhon

    I do not have the rep to enter Calas Caladhon, I tried the rope but it has no effect. Is there any other way to get into the area without fussing with rep and such?

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    SPOILER

    Unless I'm missing something, there is a typo on page 4. The pages are:
    Znqnbcnqns dr wclql tcl gly qlindjr. / Ujelq bunqe. Yku wdhh jlle tk oqlrljt tclrl: / Edsslqljt rtkjl, enqg nje rtqkjb. / Rltqdlvle sqki tcl ello odt, / Ujelq bunqe ks tcl bjnwdjb kjl. / Bkhe, idjle nje skqble dj ikqdn. / Ujtdh yku ckhe tclrl dtlir, tcl wny wdhh qlindj rcut. / Jkjl aut tcl hdjl ks Euqdj iny gjkw ks dt, aut / Euqdjr skhg, alwnql wcnt huqgr djrdel.
    This decodes to:
    Zaragharaf is where the key remains. / Under guard. You will need to present these: / Different stone, dark and strong. / Setrieved from the deep pit, / Under guard of the gnawing one. / Gold, mined and forged in moria. / Until you hold these items, the way will remain shut. / None but the line of Durin may know of it, but / Durins folk, beware what lurks inside.
    So, page 4 should be:
    Qltqdlvle sqki tcl ello odt,
    And then yield:
    Zaragharaf is where the key remains. / Under guard. You will need to present these: / Different stone, dark and strong. / Retrieved from the deep pit, / Under guard of the gnawing one. / Gold, mined and forged in moria. / Until you hold these items, the way will remain shut. / None but the line of Durin may know of it, but / Durins folk, beware what lurks inside.


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    LansuEV excellent job.

    Now persuade others to excel and engage with us.


    The red text briefed us so I'm fine with the little confusing quest breaks. And thank you all the cryptographists and rune experts willing to share.


    Mac

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    Last quest is bugged

    The last quest can be/is bugged.
    If a player interact with the stone in the secret chamber but then not going close to the dwarf NPC, the quest will be blocked for all fallowing players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcpate View Post
    SPOILER

    Unless I'm missing something, there is a typo on page 4. The pages are:


    This decodes to:


    So, page 4 should be:


    And then yield:




    No comments on your post, but come on, Black Text on the default style makes text very hard to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandolf_TheOld View Post
    No comments on your post, but come on, Black Text on the default style makes text very hard to read.
    I think its for to hide the info for spoilers... use your mouse over the text and its very clearly visible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaerArianrhod View Post
    The last quest can be/is bugged.
    If a player interact with the stone in the secret chamber but then not going close to the dwarf NPC, the quest will be blocked for all fallowing players.
    Yeah, was bugged for me yesterday, but today all was fine and finished it.

    Sergio :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannariel View Post
    So I talked to Orring in Thorin's hall and he suggested I go find Rúnvarth. I have searched and cannot find any other reference to Rúnvarth. I don't know where I'm supposed to be directed to now. I know what the forums tell me to do. But I want to know why I should go to a bat cave.....what am I missing that indicates I should go there..?
    First line of deciphered poem: Zaragharaf is where the key remains.
    This is location outside that bat cave where you actually should go to find a discarded parchment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yor02 View Post
    I do not have the rep to enter Calas Caladhon, I tried the rope but it has no effect. Is there any other way to get into the area without fussing with rep and such?
    If that rope isn't active for you already then short answer is no. It activates for players who have specific epic vol. III quest (book 6 iirc) that require you to go there or proper anniversary quest (which is obviously not possible now).
    It is also active while introduction: Northern Mirkwood is underway but you have to finish it to start this scavenger. These are 3 exceptions I know from general rule which requires you have friend reputation with Galadhrims to enter Caras Galadhon.
    However unlike someone claimed you don't have to own this region. You should have acquaintance rep from epic and the rest can be done doing some preparation quests available to everyone. Also if you already been there earlier thanks to mentioned above exceptions and tagged inner stables then you can simply swift travel there from Galtrev since they didn't add reputation requirement for stables that connect with CG but were added later than Lothlorien (there is 1 more I think, you can check in stables panel).
    Ah, if you are curious then you can't be summoned or ported there without friend rep, so no workaround that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair6 View Post
    I still can't help but feel that the quest lacks some connective tissue between the coded pages from the chests and the runes. On their own both just seem to be dead ends with no reason to connect them.
    I have to agree with you. If I hadn't looked on Lotro-wiki I would not know where to go at the end of The Mad Dwarf in order to start The Key and the Keyhole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannariel View Post
    So I talked to Orring in Thorin's hall and he suggested I go find Rúnvarth. I have searched and cannot find any other reference to Rúnvarth. I don't know where I'm supposed to be directed to now. I know what the forums tell me to do. But I want to know why I should go to a bat cave.....what am I missing that indicates I should go there..?
    Quote Originally Posted by marmi View Post
    First line of deciphered poem: Zaragharaf is where the key remains.
    This is location outside that bat cave where you actually should go to find a discarded parchment.
    Evidently I missed the text of the poem. I was pretty sure I had read everything I found because I have pages of notes....but going back it wasn't til I read the text in Wiki-pedia quest notes that I saw the poem. I came back on another character to do the quest and never saw any poem for that character either! Without lotro-wiki I never would have seen the poem at all.

 

 
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