Quote Originally Posted by tamlong View Post
Rivalry without respect kills action in pvp, I saw it on my server, people don't want to get killed by those who will mock them and rub it in their noses so you end up with zergs or hugs to kill or not be killed by those you h8 in game.
This wasnt always the case, rivalry without respect created action. Please go back to the threads about adino and the endless QQ about his raids, everyone was out for it, no one liked one another and everyone got points. No one respected him, he was called every name in the book. *shrug* I dont personally care how people feel, I am and was a casual player but the facts for riddermark PvP, historically dont support your claim.


The moaners and whiners who constantly criticize and attack other players the other side for everything they do are ultimately the ones who have killed pvp as those always being criticized eventually think Meh CBA with this Life's too short.
Again disagree. What is killing and killed PvP are really 5 items, here are the quick bullets as im not going to expand on it here:

1. Homogenized classes cumulating with new trait trees.
2. Uncapping of stats for freeps at 75 and the ridiculous damage they did made many pack up and leave for good.
3. The recalculation of mitigations for freeps when they QQ'd about content being to easy. This PvE fix porked them in the moors and a lot of them packed up and left.
4. The lag. Items 2-3 created the conditions by which people accumulated onto specific pvp servers all those people together have created tremendous lag. The game is literally unplayable in the moors at times.
5. Turbine created the conditions by which Creep classes are as powerful as their freep counter parts in most cases. What it doesnt account for is numbers. A RvR fight now with similar toon composition is actually pretty balanced. Because of it, one side or the other who has even a small amount of numeric advantage is going to likely wipe the other. There are exceptions but thats the norm.



Don't forget the forum bans as well, most of my old time buddies got banned for arguing about pvmp on forums, small infractions built up, but when they got banned, they left the game. Silly that Turbine had such a strict policy, it helped kill the game not build it.
I have served 7 day. 24 hour, 30 day, 90 day and 180 day bans on these forums because some sniffling pile of #### couldnt put me on ignore and the sapience secret police went running to him "OMG he said something mean". The filthy stinking care bears that pollute this game with their idealistic nonsense about how a gaming community should be and are willing to go to whatever lengths they can to have people banned should be hunted down and perm banned for the damage they have done to the game. I mean living without my entertaining prose for more then a day must have been a trial.

That said, yes the care bears helped kill the forum community. All they have to do is ignore the people they dont want to read but that wasnt enough.