Minas Morgul Pre-Sale has Begun! Discussion thread

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

OCTOBER 29TH LAUNCH! Seems early, no BETA YET! AMG!


IT IS HERE! THE BOARD IS set pieces are moving! It has come to it at last! The great battle of our time, reminded me on Gandalf's words from ROTK.

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Sale-has-Begun!


AMG! Shelob raid! 7 instances! OH! Seems promosing! Moria have had 7 at the original release

~ The being on left side is impressive indeed, Me wants to wear such an imposing armoour

~ 120 character boost

~ Decent title





130$ for Ultimate bundle, Cosmetics does not seem to impressive, identical to Mordor expansion.

• Minas Morgul Expansion
  Over 250 New Quests
  7 New Instances*
  Updated Crafting Guilds
  Black Book of Mordor Storyline**
  New Shelob Raid and more!*
• Stout-axe Dwarf Race
• Extra Character Slot
• A Character Level Boost to 120†
• Cosmetics of the Great Alliance
  Exclusive armour and cloak
  Shepherd dog pet
  Mount of the Great Alliance
• Cosmetics of the Dead City
  Exclusive armor and cloak
  Harnessed shepherd dog pet
  Mount of the Dead City
• New: Cosmetic Weapon Aura
  Aura of the Dead City
• Three Exclusive Titles
  "Hero, Past and Present"
  "Heroine, Past and Present"
  "Ablâkhul"
• Equippable XP Accelerator for all characters
• Exclusive Housing Teleport for all characters
• Three Relics for all characters
• Ultimate Expedition Supplies†
  5000 Virtue XP
  100% XP Boost Scrolls (1hr) x5
  20 Scrolls of Empowerment
  Reputation Supply Boost

Thoughts,are you getting the ultimate bundle? Follow the link for details, currently Q&A are broken ,404 forbidden

Link works now ~ Minas Morgul helm is below average, why would I need a dog within the Land of fire and shadow, reminds me on Fallout 4.

STORE Version comes in March 2020, that's a huge wait for the folk's who saved LP , AMG must wait

[Menathradon]

I will be waiting to purchase with turbine points.

[MolagBal]

STORE Version comes in March 2020, that's a huge wait for the folk's who saved LP , AMG must wait

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Any official source about this ? It's a huge wait....

Any planned raid release date ?

[zaboch]

Official by your decree, m'queen?

Get over yourself.

[Alex53]

Any official source about this ? It's a huge wait....

Any planned raid release date ?

New Shelob Raid and more!*

"* Note: The instances and raid will follow in patches after launch."

[Arnenna]

Any official source about this ? It's a huge wait....

Any planned raid release date ?

For the FAQ

CAN I PURCHASE THE EXPANSION WITH LOTRO POINTS?
The Minas Morgul expansion will be available for Store Points in March 2020 and will be priced as follows:

• Base Edition (includes the Minas Morgul Region & Instances only): 2495 Points
• Stout-axe Dwarf: 1000 Points

Planned release date for MM is October 29th. In the event of delay, MM items will be delivered no later than November 31st.

[MolagBal]

I've seen this but "will follow in patches" is not a release date for the raid.
Thanks Arnenna, I've missed the Faq.

[TTempest]

And once again prices are a huge cash grab, and are set at ridiculous values. Yes, boo hoo I'm poor or rather don't want to spend a fortune on a "videogame" bundle that includes mostly virtual and cosmetic stuff, and yes I don't have to buy it if I don't want to. Sure. But every year it seems to get worse!

The only reason I would consider buying your "Ultimate" pack is for the exclusive cosmetics which look pretty good this time, and the titles. I don't care for the other things so you might as well include these things in the "Collectors" pack instead, no?
How can they even get away with stuffing a bunch of irrelevant things just to bump up the price? Like 5000 Virtue XP ?? That's literally nothing. Give us some LP instead. What a disappointment.

Guess I'll wait for a sale. Otherwise this pack might as well be called the "Whale Bait" pack. Keep whaling SSG.

[Arnenna]

@ Cordovan.

As this is Pre-sale, does it mean that all editions become unavailable after launch and people will then have to wait until March to buy the basic points pack? Or will all versions remain available indefinitely, like Mordor?

Ok, scrap that, found it in FAQ The packs will remain available through the marketplace.

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

I've seen this but later patches not a release date for the raid.

There is the release date , read more carefully , in FAQ section

WHEN AND HOW DO I GET MY EXPANSION BONUS ITEMS?
Starting on September 25th, 2019 if you apply a Product Key to your account in the LOTRO Store, you will get the following items upon Product Key redemption:

Ultimate Fan Bundle	Collector’s Edition	Standard Edition
Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Ultimate Expedition Supplies Great Alliance Cosmetics, Mount, and Pet Dead City Cosmetics, Mount, Pet, and Weapon Aura All Three Exclusive Titles Equippable XP Accelerator Three Relics	Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Improved Expedition Supplies Great Alliance Cosmetics, Mount, and Pet Two Exclusive Titles	Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Expedition Supplies

All other content and items will be delivered on day of launch, October 29th, 2019. In the event of delay, you will receive the expansion content and items no later than November 31st, 2019.

[Wyndwyrdyr]

I wanna know all about the stout axe dwarf race! How will it differ from a regular dwarf race? And will the lvl120 boost be like a new Valar thing - and result in a character that has quite a few gaps in the build due to skipping content? And the biggest question is can I really be bothered to wait til March next year or am I going to cave in and buy it now. Can't believe the difference in price for the better versions for mostly just cosmetic stuff or am I missing something there too?

[Alex53]

I wanted to pre-order ultimate fan, but the extras don't seem to justify the $90 difference from standard.

I'm just going to wait until we get more news.

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

And once again prices are a huge cash grab, and are set at ridiculous values. Yes, boo hoo I'm poor or rather don't want to spend a fortune on a "videogame" bundle that includes mostly virtual and cosmetic stuff, and yes I don't have to buy it if I don't want to. Sure. But every year it seems to get worse!

The only reason I would consider buying your "Ultimate" pack is for the exclusive cosmetics which look pretty good this time, and the titles. I don't care for the other things so you might as well include these things in the "Collectors" pack instead, no?
How can they even get away with stuffing a bunch of irrelevant things just to bump up the price? Like 5000 Virtue XP ?? That's literally nothing. Give us some LP instead. What a disappointment.

Guess I'll wait for a sale. Otherwise this pack might as well be called the "Whale Bait" pack. Keep whaling SSG.

IMA BUY ULTIMATE BUNDLE FOR MY WIFE, SHE DEMANDS She needs doggy black one and outfits

[Wyndwyrdyr]

@ Cordovan.

As this is Pre-sale, does it mean that all editions become unavailable after launch and people will then have to wait until March to buy the basic points pack? Or will all versions remain available indefinitely, like Mordor?

It says in the FAQ that they will remain available after the launch - not sure about indefinitely as once you can buy in store with LP why would you need to buy with cash

[Arnenna]

There is the release date , read more carefully , in FAQ section

WHEN AND HOW DO I GET MY EXPANSION BONUS ITEMS?
Starting on September 25th, 2019 if you apply a Product Key to your account in the LOTRO Store, you will get the following items upon Product Key redemption:

Ultimate Fan Bundle	Collector’s Edition	Standard Edition
Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Ultimate Expedition Supplies Great Alliance Cosmetics, Mount, and Pet Dead City Cosmetics, Mount, Pet, and Weapon Aura All Three Exclusive Titles Equippable XP Accelerator Three Relics	Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Improved Expedition Supplies Great Alliance Cosmetics, Mount, and Pet Two Exclusive Titles	Stout-axe Dwarf Race Character Slot Expedition Supplies

All other content and items will be delivered on day of launch, October 29th, 2019. In the event of delay, you will receive the expansion content and items no later than November 31st, 2019.

He/she asked about a release date for the raid. There isn't one, only this . . . .

* Note: The instances and raid will follow in patches after launch.

You need to read more carefully

[elianidd2]

Once again the pricing for this is... pretty ludicrous for what is included. Kudos for at least including the new dwarves in the base edition this time at least.

Seriously guys, those three tiers have to come down (both here and in DDO, where it's the same pricing). You'd have to include a whole wardrobe full of cosmetics and extras, or even feelies, for me to even think about spending $80 on something like this, let alone $120.

Looking forward to the zone and quest content though.

[Morgahad]

1 motnh til relase any 0 beta?


there will be 666666666666666666666666666666 6666666666666666 bugs every sec
there will be many downtimes many crash, maybe the whole game will explote

all instances will be shut down after running expansion like anvil last time


and may bugs will come "from using exploits"

The minas Buggas expansion it will be called


pst maybe this time will be no bullo beta xD just big sup<bug>rise

[Arnenna]

It says in the FAQ that they will remain available after the launch - not sure about indefinitely as once you can buy in store with LP why would you need to buy with cash

Mordor has been available for points for a very long time, but all versions are still in the marketplace. Expansions bought with points, do not contain any of the fluff, it's just basic content. Some folk may want to buy the fluff, but cannot afford it right now, so they will buy later.

[Vanyaerunanethiel]

He/she asked about a release date for the raid. There isn't one, only this . . . .

* Note: The instances and raid will follow in patches after launch.

You need to read more carefully

You are right, you got me there, I was too excited , did not read at all. My Lady will punish me.

[Erionor]

Disappointing that the basic bundle doesn’t include the level boost. Even the basic version of Mordor came with the Aria of the Valar. I might have bought that at Christmas if that was the case. As it is, I don’t know. I’m in no rush to level past 120 on my main as I’ve got plenty of alts to play, but might have wanted to boost an alt. We’ll see...

[Arnenna]

Once again the pricing for this is... pretty ludicrous for what is included. Kudos for at least including the new dwarves in the base edition this time at least.

Seriously guys, those three tiers have to come down (both here and in DDO, where it's the same pricing). You'd have to include a whole wardrobe full of cosmetics and extras, or even feelies, for me to even think about spending $80 on something like this, let alone $120.

Looking forward to the zone and quest content though.

Agreed, the pricing is as bad as it was for Mordor bundles, in fact, a little worse pricing on the basic bundle. Mordor base had an Aria, this has a race. I have zero interest in the new dwarf race.

[LotroVidz]

It's cool that we get 7 new instances! However, how many of those are 3mans that you can't balance for all classes?
I look forward to the beta, in regards to the pricing, it would be fine as long as you don't stick to the p2w gearing system.

I wouldn't dare to pay for an 80$ or 130$ pack just to find out you are forcing people into the store to buy keys as well.

[Ballie]

The 7* might indicate the total, not at release.

Could not find the pound sterling option. The LP cost looks very reasonable for March though: 2495 LP?

Also Valar 120 at 6695 LP seems good value, dev diary coming?


It's Crystals and IXP that you need to finish an ILI and access to old dailies. A price far greater than the ultimate package if store bought. Without an LI revamp or an unfairly generous valar package players without the resources will struggle with the content again. How about selling a very expensive catch up for resource poor rather than a fits all that either can't help or makes it a preferred route to advancement for all, except the already 120s who miss out.

[Ruination44]

If they swapped out the Virtue XP with 2000 store currency I think the Ultimate bundle would be a lot more appealing. Some amount of points with it would be a step in the right direction as that's a lot of money to put down on digital goods.

[Arnenna]

It's cool that we get 7 new instances! However, how many of those are 3mans that you can't balance for all classes?
I look forward to the beta, in regards to the pricing, it would be fine as long as you don't stick to the p2w gearing system.

I wouldn't dare to pay for an 80$ or 130$ pack just to find out you are forcing people into the store to buy keys as well.

Would be nice to have 3 x 3 mans, 3 x 6 mans and 1 x raid. I could live with 4:2:1 too. It would have been really nice to see a couple of new skirmishes added too. The Skirmish event we had recently was very popular, so there is plenty of call for it as long as the rewards are worthwhile.