Bullroarer Update 19.3 - Preview and Release Notes

[Pontin_Finnberry]

Just wondering any idea yet when U19.3 goes live?

[Jurny]

If they increased the /say range to accommodate song lyrics, I'd rather they create a new /sing command for that purpose. It would be the same as /say, but with a longer range, and a "X sings" prefix in the chat log instead of "X says".

That's what /emote does. Giving more range to the "say" chat is a bad idea for so many reasons, I can't see why this is being changed? What purpose does it serve, other then annoy more people in any given area where a lot of say chat is happening??

The last thing I would want to see is some 1 "typing the words to a song" and calling it "singing".

[Sito_Origami]

You could take this a step forward and implement it all around Middle-Earth with a new "Flower Collecting" hobby. You could treat it like fishing and make unique housing items and rewards for completing sets. Any second this?

/seconded

[Oelle]

I already gathered flowers in the old wood and wildermore. So some areas already have flowergathering^^

[Gwinthilnel]

Not sure if this has already been suggested, but could a channel be added for Kin advertisements? They really muck up world chat, especially the long-winded ones. Then if people are specifically looking for a kin to join they can look on that global channel.

[SnowCrasher]

Question: So you can buy the premium housing either with mithril coins or as writ with lotro points? That seems rather redundant... what is the difference, and is the price pretty much the same?

You could take this a step forward and implement it all around Middle-Earth with a new "Flower Collecting" hobby. You could treat it like fishing and make unique housing items and rewards for completing sets.

Thirded.
I would definitely like a new hobby, or at least more fish!

[Rucagorn]

hoho epic stuff \o/ All awesome, positive & welcome ;D Didnt see that about house comming, preetty cool!
Also new chats appear welcome, now we can focus on what matters.
Cheers!

[Hallandil]

Question: So you can buy the premium housing either with mithril coins or as writ with lotro points? That seems rather redundant... what is the difference, and is the price pretty much the same?


Thirded.
I would definitely like a new hobby, or at least more fish!

The writs are slightly cheaper and players will be able to buy them from other players in-game using the mail system.

[danedrow]

Cordovan,
Please make everything about the Ithilien essences bound / common to account. So not only the various essence vials, but the essence fragments, scroll fragments, etc. Basically anything that can be bartered at the herbalist folks should go in to the common wallet and be available to any toon on a single account. You can't imagine how frustrating it is to have 1/4 fragments on one toon, 2/4 on a 2nd and then 1/4 on a third and realize how much grinding you are going to have to do to use all of them up.

Thanks,

[Thundertrain]

Not sure if this has already been suggested, but could a channel be added for Kin advertisements? They really muck up world chat, especially the long-winded ones. Then if people are specifically looking for a kin to join they can look on that global channel.

This is a great idea, except that no one would use it. There aren't many players looking to join a kinship at any given moment, so almost no one will look at this channel. Since kins looking for players want their ads to be seen by as many players as possible, they'll continue to post in World.

[camenecium]

There are now 3 global channels: /world, /trade, and /lff. Trade and Looking-for-Fellowship are now global channels accessible via /trade and /lff. Please restrict trading/selling to the /trade channel and grouping requests to the /lff channel.

Yes. This. Thank you!

While you are tinkering around with chat, can you also please look at the message about detecting hidden creatures. It goes to some weird channel right now rather than Standard (which seems like the best fit).

For someday-maybe, splitting out NPC and PC say (like adding an NPC channel/filter) would be great, especially since you're trying to fix the long-standing say bug.

Oh, more tabs maybe please? Just one more would be lovely.

[Orauk]

I think the new user channels are cool but the 2 new globals will just become imo more of an issue. People when not buying or selling will just turn it off (trade) which will cause people to still flood world. Same with Lff request, people want to hit as many people as they can, so now they will be spamming 3 channels with ads instead of 1. Just my opinion

Personally I will probably turn off the world chat if the lff and trade channels function as intended. Outside of grouping and trading I find a high percentage to be annoying political discussion and simple trolling. Outside of that, there are a number of people who use world as their personal "kin" chat. Ergh. No thanks. Personally I hope that kin invites, general trolling and politics manage to stay out of the trade and lff channels.

[bucko39]

This makes a lot sense. So much that there's probably a good reason they don't do this. Botting for example.

Then make botting "illegal", once and for all.
And let it all be done...

[camenecium]

Outside of grouping and trading I find a high percentage to be annoying political discussion and simple trolling. [...] Personally I hope that kin invites, general trolling and politics manage to stay out of the trade and lff channels.

Last things first, I agree I'm concerned that world-style-chat will spill over into the new /lff and /trade or that they'll be underutilized. We need players and moderators both to encourage proper use.

Also, let's be fair. Some of the trolling in /world is very specific and very complex. Credit where it's due!

[Elflord410]

If they increased the /say range to accommodate song lyrics, I'd rather they create a new /sing command for that purpose. It would be the same as /say, but with a longer range, and a "X sings" prefix in the chat log instead of "X says".

Why do folks feel compelled to spam chat with song lyrics anyway?

[Thurallor]

Why do folks feel compelled to spam chat with song lyrics anyway?

I don't understand the question.

Are you asking why songs have lyrics, or are you asking why someone who is performing a song with lyrics would want the listeners to be able to hear the lyrics?

[Zepherzaper]

I don't understand the question.

Are you asking why songs have lyrics, or are you asking why someone who is performing a song with lyrics would want the listeners to be able to hear the lyrics?

No what he is asking is why do people spam worthless trash into chat channels and the type of trash he is mentioning seems to be lyrics for songs.

really took me 2 seconds to decode what was asked and a few mins to explain it do you really need someone to decode and explain something so simple? if so I feel sorry for you.

[Zepherzaper]

I like what was added I would like to see outdoor elements to be able to be moved like this as well as more yard slots.

[siipperi]

I like what was added I would like to see outdoor elements to be able to be moved like this as well as more yard slots.

That will not be an option.almost all houses in neighbourhood has different yard decoration arragment so to make more it would require manually add more to each house in the neighbourhood X4. While interiors could be done 3x4. So revamping outsides takes so much more time. But movable hooks would be nice.

[Thurallor]

No what he is asking is why do people spam worthless trash into chat channels and the type of trash he is mentioning seems to be lyrics for songs.

People generally *don't* spam chat channels with song lyrics when they're doing music performances. They use "say" for the lyrics.

The "say" distance was modified in this update to accommodate LOTRO music players and their song lyrics. It has nothing to do with random spam in chat channels.

[Attaseldo]

Bullroarer Update 19.3 Release Notes
Welcome to the Update 19.3 Release Notes for Bullroarer, released on Friday, January 20th. These notes will change over time.
We have updated Bullroarer with a preview of Update 19.3.
Please note that the Beta EULA and ToS have not yet been updated, and will still incorrectly display the old EULA and ToS.

News and Notes:
Adjustable interior housing hooks:
You can now adjust the precise location of interior housing decorations once they are placed in a hook. The decoration hook UI now includes 4 scroll bars that allow decorations to be rotated as before, but also to be moved east/west, north/south, and up/down. Exterior housing decorations continue to only allow rotation.

• Interior housing decorations be moved +/- 10 meters along the x, y, or z axis once they are placed.
• Clicking the decoration icon to the left of each rotation and translation scrollbar will rotate or move the decoration back to the default position in that axis.
• Large Wall housing decorations can now be rotated around their vertical axis.
• In decoration mode, hook outlines are now color coded by type.

Chat channel additions and changes:

• Four additional user defined chat channels have been added, so every player has access to 8 user defined chat channels.
• There are now 3 global channels: /world, /trade, and /lff. Trade and Looking-for-Fellowship are now global channels accessible via /trade and /lff. Please restrict trading/selling to the /trade channel and grouping requests to the /lff channel.
• The advice regional chat channel has been removed.
• The eight user chat channels have been added to the Output Channels context menu of the bubble icon on the chat input field

Other new items and bug fixes:

• Premium houses can be purchased using Premium Housing Writs. These writs are given when a player gives up their premium house, or when a character with a premium house transfers to another server. You can also purchase these housing writs on the LOTRO store.
• The "/say" bug has been fixed. In addition, the range of /say has been increased from 15 meters to 25. Use /shout to double that range.
• Kin leaders who "sell" their premium house will now properly receive premium housing writs.
• Flora - Phials of Extract now bind to account instead of character
• The North Ithilien Wilds frame should now display on your selected target portrait and fellowship member's portrait (when they have selected the flora frame).
• Players can no longer barter gear containing slotted essences. If a barter exchange would take a piece of gear with slotted essences, an error will be received instead.
• When your avatar is hit when holding a shield, your weapon should now remain in your hand.
• The maximum possible coin capacity for any player is 9999 gold, 999 silver, 99 copper. To prevent players from inadvertently losing coin exceeding this maximum:
  • Players can no longer detach coin from emails if the transaction exceeds the maximum coin capacity.
  • Players can no longer sell an item to a vendor if the transaction exceeds the maximum coin capacity. When using Sell All, any item whose value exceeds the maximum coin capacity will not be sold.
  • Players can no longer trade coin if the transaction exceeds the maximum coin capacity on the recipient.
  • When a player fails to receive coin as a mob reward or quest reward, the error message "Transaction exceeds maximum coin capacity." is displayed, but the extra coinage is lost.

Does this mean that the items I sell won't go into overflow if I don't purchase the gold cap release. My overflow amounts aren't at their maximum right now but when I attempt to sell an item that is greater than the 5 gold I get "Transaction exceeds maximum coin capacity"