Rise of Isengard Update/Patching Discussion - OFFICIAL

Well it's a good thing I have an interview to occupy my time :)

Even though I am jonesin' to try out my Champion uber beast tank face melter I think getting the money to pay for the game comes first ;)

I think it's funny that not only did Turbine release the patch a day earlier that people think this is the only company this happens to. I remember FFXI, WAR and WoW having absolutely crazy wait times. I recall an entire day's wait (24 hours exactly) from when I got to patch FFXI once to actually play it.

Don't panic. There's other stuff to do on the interwebs!

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Originally Posted by Ruintheliel

I'm now patched up on two computers.

But the funny thing is, that even if the game worlds went online now, I'd still not be able to log in, as I cannot get past Connect on the launcher, even if my client is patched :P

This is gonna be an interesting day :D

On the other hand, if the game worlds were opened, perhaps the lucky people would get out of the 'Patch server queue' and free up room for others?

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If you are patched, please do not continue to try and log into the game. The game is unavailable. We will announce when the servers are live. Ever time you open the launcher it connects to the patch server to validate that you have the latest version. If you are patched, and still hitting the patch server you are probably taking up resources that someone who has not patched would really like to use.

I just hope they're not being unfair and are throttling certain IP ranges (US first, EU 2nd). :mad:

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Originally Posted by Sapience

I'm old enough to remember that. The worst part was when you died and had to reload all over again. 20 minutes to load, dead in 2, reload.

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Big lol, why don't you recall times with abacus? Or midnight oil? :))

Today we have another world around. It is just your pipe is too narrow, this is the reason :)
I am in Internet since the beginning of 90-ies, so I know the difference :) We started then with BBS's and dial-up modems 1200 baud. Now I have 100 Mbit to world and what?

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Originally Posted by Sapience

Actually we stopped doing the prepatch downloads much earlier than Mirkwood. The primary reason was people would break their installs by using the patcher incorrectly and then have to reinstall. Which takes considerably longer.

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well then they should learn not to break they stuff, cause it worked great for me ... but of course at that time i only had access to dial-up :(

Been trying since 1pm GMT, and the launcher is stuck at Connect. why cant those of us in the EU connect to the patching server?

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Originally Posted by Byatt

I remember the days when there was no patching at all, because the only thing you did on the client side was run the telnet client of your choice. Of course, the MUDs were all text then...

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Oh yes, that too ... those 300/1200 baud modems, even sending colors would have slowed gaming but there even the ultra modern graphic games with ibm graphic charset and ansi colors in the best bbs! :D

first of all this isant a patch day, patch days are 6-7 hrs of downtime

this is an expansion day and the first of its size since proberly moria released.
expansions are usually 10-15 hrs downtime. usually starting at 3 am - 5 am US time. so dont expect much b4 3 pm US time

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Originally Posted by peterbutt

Do you think they have a fully patched client for re-install? In other words, I know I can download the entire client via pando in like 2 hours...Would it be quicker to re-install instead of patch? Most likely the re-install would just be the Mirkwood client, right? Hmmm....

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Nobody needs to re-download the client.

All you'd be doing is using valuable bandwith.

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Originally Posted by Eightleggedphreak

I'm guessing by about 10 pm EST they'll fix whatever the problem is not letting people connect. Noon EST tomorrow the servers will come up and Isen will ship as promised, on the 27th.

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looks like it is going to be that way

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Originally Posted by Sapience

If you are patched, please do not continue to try and log into the game. The game is unavailable. We will announce when the servers are live. Ever time you open the launcher it connects to the patch server to validate that you have the latest version. If you are patched, and still hitting the patch server you are probably taking up resources that someone who has not patched would really like to use.

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Why are there so many issues this time compared to the other expansions? Is there really that huge of an increase in players from Enedwaith to now? I have never heard of this many people having this problem on patch day. It sounds to me like somethings wrong and you guys just can't fix it yet.

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Originally Posted by Sapience

Actually we stopped doing the prepatch downloads much earlier than Mirkwood. The primary reason was people would break their installs by using the patcher incorrectly and then have to reinstall. Which takes considerably longer.

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We got the prepatch in Europe for Mirkwood release, I didn't hear any moaning about broken installs. If you're worried that people would use the patch before servers go down for update, then I think it could be solved by some sort of date/time check, or even online status check before it lets them proceed and update. I don't know how Codemasters did it back then, but believe me they were highly praised for doing it.

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Originally Posted by Ruintheliel

I'm now patched up on two computers.

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Can you comment on your download speed, estimated size and how long the patch took?

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Sapience

If you are patched, please do not continue to try and log into the game. The game is unavailable. We will announce when the servers are live. Ever time you open the launcher it connects to the patch server to validate that you have the latest version. If you are patched, and still hitting the patch server you are probably taking up resources that someone who has not patched would really like to use.

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How do we know if we're patched?

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Originally Posted by Sapience

If you are patched, please do not continue to try and log into the game. The game is unavailable. We will announce when the servers are live. Ever time you open the launcher it connects to the patch server to validate that you have the latest version. If you are patched, and still hitting the patch server you are probably taking up resources that someone who has not patched would really like to use.

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Okies.

I'm no tech expert, nor am I privvy to how your servers work, which I reckon goes for most people, so maybe it is a good idea to put what you just wrote on the launcher?

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Originally Posted by Sapience

If you are patched, please do not continue to try and log into the game. The game is unavailable. We will announce when the servers are live. Ever time you open the launcher it connects to the patch server to validate that you have the latest version. If you are patched, and still hitting the patch server you are probably taking up resources that someone who has not patched would really like to use.

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How can I check if I'm patched or not?

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Originally Posted by Kamikaze420

Turbine should really think about tweeting about some silly contest when there are so many people having patching problems... really? a contest?

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Agree. This is getting on my nerves as well. Forget the damn contest for a minute. Drop everything and sort this mess out! Nearly four hours in limbo here.

Successful attempts to connect thus far: 0/240. What a farce.

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Originally Posted by Sapience

The information they show is inaccurate. The Game Servers are not available at this time.

By the way, I use your interface skin. Really enjoy it.

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..Which skin is this, and is there a link to download it?


Is it possible the game-servers themselves are up, but the they're not ready as the login gls-auth-server (which you must hit FIRST) is down?

I believe these sites just use the same status information generally available when you get past the autheticated login, the same way we could see whether or not bullroarer was up, down, open to people in IsenBeta, or just TurbineEmployees ;) (no I'm not about to list all of the appropriate tokens here, TurbineEmployees was a generalization)

Perhaps they should query the auth server to determine if it is infact up as well? Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by Cial

This ftw. All the Wow kiddies these days have no idea what is was like back in the day ;)

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Yep I remember 300 baud modems. I could type faster than it could transmit :) and I do remember running and playing text based games on BBS systems. I even remember when the internet was opened to the general public.

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Originally Posted by Fruinjuice

Can you comment on your download speed, estimated size and how long the patch took?

Thank you!

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It was actually rather quick. Most of the time I was downloading at my maximum bandwidth, which is about 10mb. I'm afraid I didn't take much notice of the actual time, but I'd say in the ballpark of 15m, 30 minutes tops.

No idea about the size, apart from it being 6200 files. They all went by really quick.

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Originally Posted by Eightleggedphreak

Why are there so many issues this time compared to the other expansions? Is there really that huge of an increase in players from Enedwaith to now? I have never heard of this many people having this problem on patch day. It sounds to me like somethings wrong and you guys just can't fix it yet.

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I doubt there are any more issues, it's just that the EU players are on here complaining too, instead of on the Codemasters forums where they were 'out of sight, out of mind'.

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Originally Posted by Floxxx

How will you handle the multiple connections? 2 cups doesn't seem nearly enough...

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Yeah, two cups can barely handle 4 girls. :p

Also, PLEASE Turbine use some other thread for updates!

Like, oh don´t know, maybe one on this arcane board:

Announcements & Service Updates

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Originally Posted by Redplague90

first of all this isant a patch day, patch days are 6-7 hrs of downtime

this is an expansion day and the first of its size since proberly moria released.
expansions are usually 10-15 hrs downtime. usually starting at 3 am - 5 am US time. so dont expect much b4 3 pm US time

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Moria? Not even close.

More like Enedwaith or Mirkwood.

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Originally Posted by wswingley

Hey, he answered a question no one gives a toss about AND renamed the thread... hard at work.

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yeah ok I'm sorry, wouldn't want to over work them...still want the medication theyre on, cos it sounds well good.

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Originally Posted by Nyrion

I doubt there are any more issues, it's just that the EU players are on here complaining too, instead of on the Codemasters forums where they were 'out of sight, out of mind'.

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It's not just EU players. I've never heard of anyone having this issue repeatedly for hours come patch/expansion day, especially not multiple people(Looks like a couple hundred on the forums at least, and there's a good chunk of us in vent). Something different is up this time it would seem.