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Seems you have received some useful input from a few players - I hope this helps resolve the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellsieUK
I will ask that any further correspondence about this be done through Private Message so this thread may return to questions/comments about the Preview Program.
Thank you all for your understanding with this request!
I applied, let's see how it turns out.
Just a question though. Do you also respond to people that have not been selected? So I'm not hitting the F5 button in my email so aggressively :).
And one more Q. I suppose there is a new client for Palantir? Do I have to download this 16gb again? My HDD is big enough, but oh well, another 16gb with same data...
We do not send emails to those we do not accept. If a post goes up saying we've sent invitations and you did not receive one, then your application was not accepted for that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faileon
If you are accepted, yes, downloading a new client will be required.
Are invitations going out all the time or are they only sent at specific days/times?
There is no set time or schedule. We try to aim for once a month, but have hopelessly failed at that goal since... ever. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Feldenak
We send out invitations when the QA schedule frees up enough for us to review applications. I wish I could give you a better answer.
Thanks Kehleyr. I figure I'll apply and see if my requirements gathering, FD writing and break/fix experience is enough to get me in. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
At 5 rounds of invites in 10 months, it doesn't seem like you're doing too badly in terms of keeping up with the applications.; Hopefully Bullroarer is helping to lighten your load a little so you can keep up with the applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Here's hoping the team working on a solution to the PPPP billing system's exclusion of non VIPs isn't sucked up by the MYLOTRO data import issues for too much longer; If infact they are the same team. Perhaps we'll be able to celebrate 1year of the program's new form by applying.
Best Bug hunting to you and yours!
Perhaps this has been answered somewhere before, but I can not seem to find it, what is the difference between the palantir private preview program and the beta for ROI other than you have to apply for palantir? I am kind of confused on exactly what this program is.
Palantir is private, full NDA, ongoing testing. Beta for RoI is for RoI only.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorgrinIronhide
Both have their own NDAs with terms. Both are private.; Bullroarer is currently beta for ONLY RoI and invite only.; Palantir is only open to applications from VIPs, and your acceptance there is until you do one of the following 1.Drop VIP, ; 2. Violate the terms of the program 3. Turbine decides you're no longer needed (Not something I imagine happens often.) 4. You choose to leave the program]Quote:
Originally Posted by Arbalister
Edit: To clarify my inclusion of #3: In the transition from Isengard->Palantir Private Preview program, you elected to wipe your tester base and start anew.; True, this was a new program, but it doesn't mean anyone or everyone lost as a result of the transition did something to leave or desired to leave the program.; Turbine is free to seek a fresh slate of volunteers at any time and remove the previous ones.
Thanks for the responses, but I guess what I am really getting at is how do they differ in what they test? Is palantir basically a running beta for anything, like when they have introduced class updates outside of expansions, new instances etc..., while the beta (like for ROI) is reserved only for specific expansions? Or is it more like an alpha for lack of a better word, in that things get tested there then to bullroarer.I understand if you can not answer specifically because of any NDA agreements, it just appears to me that between palantir, bullroarer, and expansion beta's there is a lot of overlap. Perhaps that is exactly the point.
Bullroarer is only opened when they need a wider range of people testing something [Ie: RoI]; Palantir, is probably is up far more often. ; Palantir gets its builds before Bullroarer, and may have more than one build in the time Bullroarer has one. ; Palantir was probably testing RoI content in some form or another before RoI was likely announced. Palantir is run by Quality Assurance; Bullroarer is run by Online Community Relations; Palantir is more focused on qualitative feedback while Bullroarer is focused on catching bugs missed by QA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorgrinIronhide
Edit: Removed inaccuate statements; (And Please, Just because someone makes a mistake, do not presume it was intentional, I'm operating with the best information I've got available to me)
Interesting, thanks for the response that is just what I was looking for.
Not sure what gave you the impression this is a condition, but we have never dropped someone from the Private Preview Program because we decided they are 'no longer needed'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Not true. While we do have a focus schedule, anything that is on the Deliverable list is open for testing on Palantir at all times unless some bug or undeveloped mechanic is preventing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Again, not true. We have hundreds of players on Palantir - if we had them hyper-focused as you imply here it would not be an efficient use of their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Again, we have a focus schedule, yes, but if you are not able to meet the requests of the focus schedule but are able to test, file bugs and offer feedback then your time is incredibly valuable to us.
Palantir is far more strongly focused on the qualitative aspect of the content. That is: Is this quest fun? What makes it not fun? Is this instance balanced? Is this boss too hard? Does this new skill seem overpowered?
While bugs are an important component, feedback is really where Palantir is at.
Understanding the process is one thing, but the experience itself cannot be reflected in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Kehlevr,
Are there any disqualifications for knowing too much? lol
In a nutshell, I've been computer gaming since the early 80's, been mmoing since beta 6 of UO.
I've pretty much seen and done it all. I've met several dev tema over the years in multiple games (all in-game) and in fact been a part of guilds that included devs from several games.
I was also asked multiple times by a couple different game companies if I was looking for a job.
My basic question is, by knowing too much- voices from vent/etc, from communicating via emails with dozens of folk in the industry am I some sort of risk? I applied a couple years ago and was not picked.
Is it worth applying again or am I considered over qualified or risky because of my experiences?
We don't tend to exclude people for being 'overqualified' :) so if I were you I would try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by newbismo
EDIT: ohmygosh Maui. <jealous> ;)
Kehleyr is our very own mythbuster. Good job debunking all the misconceptions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
I would expect 'overqualified' is indeed unlikely to be a disqualifier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Now this matter may well require an extensive on-site personal interview by Kehleyr for a week or so in January to fully define your eligibility. <grin>Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Thanks for correcting my misconceptions!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Posts like this are why I suggested an article for the Free People's Press. I hope you consider it .
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...o-the-Palantir.
Thanks for all of the speedy clarifications Kehleyr!
Very good to know that this is a focus of the program. While bugs can be a source of immense frustration, bugs can be fixed. "Fun" is what makes people WANT to play. It's nice to know that Turbine actually DOES focus on "FUN".Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Hey Kehleyr I'm going to Kauai soon wanna come?? :D
Any idea when the next round of apps are to be sorted?
I guess the program is as much as you put into it, is how much you get out of it. I.e by helping them with solid feedback will improve your own game on 'Live'. These chaps/Ladies do a good job and just want good folk to help improve the game.
Good Luck to anyone wishing to enter the program and make sure you do all your best to help them out!
The last batch of PPP invites went out on the 26:th of July, right?
There have been no further invitations since this time. Just keep watching this thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
/still hopeful he may be allowed to apply by Update 5 or 6.
Additionally. I would like to thank you and your team (both of professional testers and the folks in this program) for all the hard work they put into testing update 4, I had only a few minor problems doing every quest, and I think only one of those could be something one could remotely expect to notice without a fresh set of eyes after testing build after build). Well done.
That is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven-EU
We are woefully overdue. I hope to have some good news for you folks within the next couple weeks.
I see the lights in the QA department are burning bright even on weekends. I would say don't rush, keep quality before quantity ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Hear hear! I'd say at least a little celebration is due for all the team's hard work on RoI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven-EU
Good news. Yay!.. So many things It could be, and I'm sure that anything would be wonderful to hear so we'll all be waiting with anticipation!,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
:wild speculation follows:
If it's that a round of invites has gone out, Yay! to the successful applicants.
If its that everyone can apply regardless of subscription status, Yay! for an increased applicant pool
If it's that you guys have pushed through the tests on a implied patch or hotfix coming before update 5, Yay!.. (See various remarks to the effect of 'the latest this should be fixed is u5')
If it means that QA is getting ready to do something else spiffy (whether you have or haven't hinted at it yet) YAY!
:speculation ends:
Thanks for continuing to monitor and respond to this thread.
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Wow, you do read into things...Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
I was referring to another round of invites - nothing more, nothing less.
And this all I was actually expecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Note the term 'wild speculation' . Perhaps I'd be better called a optimist. Rather than post a huge wall of text here. I'll drop you a PM.
Well... we are talking about a Palantir, which sees things in the past, present and possible futures anywhere the user has the power to look...and can be colored by the visions of other users..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
O....Lord...
Can anyone from Turbine please confirm whether (as the above would seem to indicate) players who are on the former EU servers are excluded from the Palantir Program? I have three Lifetime Accounts and one VIP, but all of them are located on the Laurelin (ex-EU) Server.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNefarious
Does this mean that *none* of my Accounts would be eligible for Palantir?
Incidentally, and whilst writing: having read the criteria on the first page of this thread, where I did not actually see anything excluding non-US subscribers, I sent in an application which almost literally "crossed in the post" with the last round of Palantir invites, which I learned (after applying!) had been sent out two days before I sent in my application.
If I am not already automatically excluded because I play on an ex-EU server, do I need to reapply, since my application was sent a *long* time ago - 29th July, to be precise?
Many thanks in advance for any official advice on these two questions.
Best,
Demelza of Lórien
Friend of the Wild and Lady of Streams
That comment was made at a time when Turbine only had control over the U.S. service, and no control over the EU Service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demelza
Everyone is now playing on the Turbine service, so even former EU players can apply.
If you have applied since the last batch of invites went out, you don't need to do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demelza
If a batch of invites goes out, and you didn't get in, you can reapply in the next window.
@Brya:
Thanks very much for your fast, helpful and informative reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brya
You answered all of my questions most clearly and I'm grateful to you for taking the time and trouble to do so.
Much appreciated! :)
Best,
Demelza of Lórien
Friend of the Wild and Lady of Streams
Sounds interesting
The sixth batch of invitations to the Palantir Private Preview Program just went out!
Please check your email for an invite. Please assure you check junk/spam folders as our emails have been filtered there in the past.
Please remember that all aspects of this program are confidential, so if you have been invited to join please do not post here or anywhere else stating so.
We thank everyone for applying, and if you didn't get invited this time around you are welcome to apply again at any time.
EDIT: Please note this applies to applications sent in from 07/26/11 through 10/10/11. If you sent your application on 10/11 or later it has not been processed yet and you do not need to reapply.
Just wanted to ask when the next round of invites will be. I know the next round may be far off but... I check my e-mail alot and I only look for one thing. It's pretty easy to guess what that one thing is.
Turbine Store sales?! Me too! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by calmante
Evening,
Do we have any word if any more phases are coming? A couple of guys in the community were wondering.
Thanks in advance.
We are currently targeting the beginning of March.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honvikuk
Any news when Beta sign-ups for RoR will be available?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Beta will be handled by the Online Community, that is Sapience and Celestrata's team. It is not handled by QA, like this program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbuck1771
There will be no information provided about the RoR Beta here. Sorry!!
Reminds me to re-apply... I'm running out of ways to permute my old application so I might have to re-word it! I wonder if posting the exact same application every time is detrimental to the chance of getting accepted :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
From the first page:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven-EU
Q: If I do not get accepted the first time I apply, should I bother to reapply? If my original explanation wasn't enough to get me in, maybe I could include additional information and be accepted later on?
A: Yes, we definitely encourage this. We have had several participants that applied more than once. If, upon hindsight, you think your application may have been lacking, by all means revise it and try again. What we don’t encourage is submitting the exact same application over and over. This isn’t a lottery – more attempts don’t make acceptance more likely.
If I understood him correctly, he's indicating submitting the same application with the same answers each time where as that references sending in your application 50 times in a row as an example in the hopes your application is picked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayrolen
Interesting interpretation - I can see now how that can be read that way. I will reword it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unixbomber
Given that, the way Ayrolen interprets that FAQ is the way it was intended. Submitting the same app every cycle is what we discourage. We don't just arbitrarily reject applications. There are reasons why we don't accept an application. Therefore, to continue to submit the same application just means the outcome will be the same.
Something like the definition of insanity... ;)
Can we apply for the ROR Palantir yet?
Expansion betas are not run on Palantir. They're run on Bullroarer by OCR staff (Sapience, Celestrata, etc). And the last beta did not have any application. Testers were chosen by the OCR staff. I'm sure there will be an announcement sometime this Summer when they have more information on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty_Lumpkin
Sound like you're looking for the RoR Beta Program. That is not what this thread addresses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty_Lumpkin
Once decisions have been made about any beta program for RoR, the details will be announced on how to participate.
I'm curious if I can participate in this program.
I've had a few forum infractions previously ( I got upset about a few things and made my unhappiness public a number of times) but that was quite a long time ago and I'm over it now ( stopped playing my burglar ) and any points or tickets I had have long since expired?
So, am I permanently out of any beta programs now? Or have I been forgiven?
I can't speak for beta programs, I can only speak for this, the private preview program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faithknight
From post #3 in this thread:
Sounds like you don't have anything to worry about, based on your post. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frequently Asked Questions
The seventh batch of invitations to the Palantir Private Preview Program just went out!
Please check your email for an invite. Please assure you check junk/spam folders as our emails have been filtered there in the past.
Please remember that all aspects of this program are confidential, so if you have been invited to join please do not post here or anywhere else stating so.
We thank everyone for applying, and if you didn't get invited this time around you are welcome to apply again at any time.
EDIT: Please note this applies to applications sent in from 10/11/11 through 03/27/12. If you sent your application on 03/28 or later it has not been processed yet and you do not need to reapply.
its a really long thread to read:/ i want to join this too tbh cause i love bug checking and testing staff
But i dunno the requirements, i mean what i really have to do and how often i have to do what i wil be asked to do.I'm confused in other words hehe.
Well i had some post like rage posts before is there chance to get purified and join this?I was accepted since RoI beta and ive been to all of them and check,test staff but i just realised there is an even better way to express my thoughts to this game through Palantir.
So if someone can say 1-2 things about in a resume it would be really appriciated!
1. Read every post by Kehleyr at the beginning of the thread. It clearly describes the process for applying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tangaar
2. What you 'have to do' once accepted, will be clearly explained at that time.
3. If you cannot communicate well in and comprehend written English, you may not be a good fit for this program. I presume developers will want to be able to readily communicate with you about your feedback, tests, bug reports, and other things currently undergoing testing.
ty mate.i saw so many pages and it drove me crazy at first lol:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Nah, it's lawyers. If you ask them, "How can I do X in such a way as not to risk getting sued?" they reply, "That's simple, don't do X at all." In fact, they say that before you ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by PierreForever
Quote:
Originally Posted by PierreForever
That is totally unfair. How do you expect to be a tester if you don't have access to all of the content? How do you think NDA would work with no accountability?
If you cared that much $15 a month, the most expensive way to subscribe, is what? A few less coffees, Big Macs, beers, whatever a month.
Considering that expansions aren't auto-granted to VIPs, it's quite possible for a Premium player to have access to more content than a VIP player. That does exclude Monster Play, but surely an unwillingness to participate in PvP won't immediately disqualify someone for Palantir?Quote:
Originally Posted by Radbug
In logic, no it wouldn't. But we're not talking about logic, we're talking about lawyers. See upthread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Annariel
But Radbug has a point: a subscription is really not that expensive in the context of, e.g., what movies charge these days.
I doubt we're talking about lawyers. We're more likely talking about the technical issues with the billing system as stated somewhere in early posts by K. Certainly there are viable real ID solutions if they're worried about our anonymity, opening it up to premium users with a valid CC attached to their account perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by djheydt
Most likely it's currently implemented as an alternative VIP billing code and as soon you stop paying for your VIP, it goes poof.
They need an alternate billing code of 0.00$ that is somehow distinct from our existing Premium billing of $0.00;
I wish I was 18 years or older..... I think I can still be constructive in the "Palantir Private Preview Program!" ( Did I say that correctly?)
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Immaturity strikes! And is gone with the wind.....
--Yours Truly
For this, one must simply wait. Alas, its a legal requirement to sign a non-disclosure agreement such as is required in this case. Continue supporting testing through /bug, and participating in Bullroarer when it's open.Quote:
Originally Posted by gallib
The reason F2P and Premium players can not join Palantir has nothing to do with money or lawyers, as if lawyers would stop you from picking more people to test the game. The reason is that people in the program test new areas. Since VIP's get access to this without having to pay for it no coding changes are needed to give access to the content on the test servers. The store can not sell things until it goes live so F2P and Prems would not be able to access it. The expansions, because they are much larger have thier own beta test that does allow F2P an prem members to join.Quote:
Originally Posted by djheydt
Bullroarer has its own separate store and billing assortment. I suspect Palantir does as well. It seems trivial to have premium and F2P test it as soon as the access gating is applied and pushed to the store with the infinite TP. ; Also, this might provide an opportunity to catch bugs such as the GR deeds being open to everyone because they were improperly gated by RoI instead of GR.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThistleRose3
Whatever the reason, its good to know that we have several Turbine employees who'd love to have us aboard. I hope someday they can figure out how to make participating an option.
Which is another reason it's moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RicardoFurriel
While I appreciate the desire folks have to discuss systems and classes they care deeply about, I respectfully ask you do so in the appropriate forums and threads.
Please bring this thread back to the topic of applications to the Private Preview Program. Thank you all for your understanding with this request.
Greetings! Just a question or two..is this program still open for those wishing to apply to it? I read what it says at the front of the thread, but the date of the post is a tad old and I just wanted to double check. If so, I'd love to re-apply..the rest of the questions I shall save for another time. Cheers :)
It is open for applications. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominarien
Just curious what is the big difference between beta and this program and why have this program when you have beta? I apologize if this has already been explained but I did not find the answer, possibly I did not read everything. :-)
This program and Beta are pretty much the same thing, with the following differences:Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
- This program is ongoing. Formal Betas only happen when we are releasing a major, paid expansion.
- This program is application only. There is no application process for Beta.
- This program tends to get its hands on content a lot earlier in the development cycle. For example, Palantirians have been looking at Rohan content in bits and pieces since Spring. :)
- This program has a much smaller community than Beta.
- This program is run by Quality Assurance. Beta is run by Product Development. While the Beta Coordinator is heavily involved in both programs, the teams she works with differ based on the program currently in focus.
The Private Preview Program usually shuts down when we have a formal Beta happening (it is currently dormant for the remainder of the RoR Beta). Other than that, it's on 24/7.
As far as what we test, how we test it, and the impact your feedback has the Preview Program and Beta are reasonably identical.
Do you still need to be VIP to apply?
For the time being, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cazthelm
Thanks for all the info @Kehleyr. :-) Sounds like an interesting program. The only thing that does concern me a bit is having a voice to represent all player types or styles.. for example.. not only having players who enjoy to heal on a Minstrel but also those who prefer to dps only. Even more importantly to be able to project and look at the big picture beyond outside the main class one plays but the overall appeal of the game itself. Not sure if I make sense or not as it's a bit late here in France but I hope you understand me. :-) Anyway.. that's just one example. :-)
If you are concerned about a voice not being present and are eligible, and interested the best course of action would probably be to apply. At some point they'll get the billing kinks worked out and I'm sure they'll get promptly recruit voices from those player types as well, who are otherwise forced to wait until Bullroarer or even live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
Given the number of players blatantly blabbing 'bout beta and ignoring the banning consequences, it does make sense to invite people to palantir who have an account they don't want to have permanently banned. Thus purely free accounts would be a bad idea. But having a premium account would be ok I think assuming at least a certain amount of money spent (ie, same as 2 months of sub or something like that).
Never fear there - while our community is smallish, it is extremely diverse. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
This thread keeps catching my eye.:)
I...still think that a few "elite" players and their kins end up unduly influencing the direction of things to benefit not the playing community, but their own kins. It seems to bear out in the way content ends up getting beaten first. I don't think it's coincidence. Perhaps a purge or a rotation would be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
Did you ever think that hard work, dedication and hours of commitment could perhaps be the reason for this? I know on Eldar there have been in the past certain kins who completed raid content before anyone else, even when Codemasters still played host to the EU servers. The reason they did so is because of the players who know their classes inside out and how to use those classes in a group environment. They will happily spend all night (literally) wiping over and over to learn the raid dynamics. I think it's quite presumptuous to assume that the only possible way that they could ever achieve this is by learning the raid first on a test server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardineck
I played with a number of players from multiple kins who have completed 'Original Challenger of Saruman', while the raid was on Bullroarer. These were the dedicated players putting in hour after hour, in multilingual T2 ToO runs on Bullroarer just to try and get that edge and because of the challenge. It's a matter of dedication, effort, and ingenuity, not prior 'secret' knowledge. The insinuation that groups join this program to try and get those accolades on live is ludicrous. Players become a member of this community from all of the worlds. The assumption that they'd all be able to get together again on live to effectively make use of that knowledge and synergy from testing prior to Bullroarer is absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galuhad
It is not ludicrous. It happens. They are not shy about it. Does it involve spending time there? Of course. When the current content is done, what do they gravitate toward? The new stuff. The new stuff isn't out yet. Know what's silly? Assuming that all the hardcore kins are still running Orthanc to try and beat new stuff. It's been beaten. "Elite" players gravitate toward what is new. The old has been beaten. They have a chance to influence the new stuff...you think they won't? I'm not saying I blame them - I'm saying that assuming that the same people participating in the testing time after time leads to this problem. Yes, they are reliable for providing data, but can that data be trusted? It's like this in EVERY aspect of society, not just gaming. Once you start trusting an "outside source" to produce the data all the time, that "outside source" becomes, in effect, an "inside source". This isn't even really up for debate. Bringing up time involved in testing has nothing to do with it. Can anyone honestly say that it even prevented all the bugs in the last raid release? It's a matter of goals. You're free to have your own opinion. Some players have naturally gravitated toward positions of leadership, as happens anywhere. It's hard to argue that, since these players all get buffs, items, armour to put them on level that the players, certainly of a certain quality in live because they have skill with their class and the gear anyway - would not be able to obtain direct data that benefits their kinship. It won't change, but let's not pretend that exactly what I said happens is happening and does happen. Time has nothing to do with it, especially when I know several players that have multiple windows open with multiple games, let alone accounts, and that's assuming that they're not playing 24 hours a day and only LotRO if they're raiding. Time is not a factor.
You guys have taken this thread off topic. It's Q & A about the Palantir program not debating raid nonsense.
Now that the NDA has been lifted I will again say this thread has caught my eye. Being invited into the Beta of Riders of Rohan I have found to be very interesting. Is a
vast amount of information for one to take in. Not to mention the amount of time one needs to devote to testing. I would like to say Thank You for the marvelous work this department along with the others have put in to the game as a whole.
My question is are deadlines for filing forum feedback as intense as in beta?
What does synergy supose to spell its not in the DictionaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
Not really. The Preview Program schedule is a little more relaxed than a Beta program, basically because you tend to be dealing with a lot less content between pushes.Quote:
Originally Posted by lockecd
syn·er·gyQuote:
Originally Posted by lockecd
[sin-er-jee] Show IPA
noun, plural syn·er·gies.1.the interaction of elements that when combined produce a total effect that is greater than the sum of the individual elements, contributions, etc.; synergism.
:)
For an example, you have jelly and you have peanut butter. Separately they are both good. But put them together and you have a wonderful sandwich. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kehleyr
You'll have very sticky hands unless you find some bread too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baresira
you can have sticky hands even with bread.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lohi
Thank You both !Quote:
Originally Posted by Baresira
<sigh> I just lost faith in the dictionary app on my tablet. maybe I should /bug it. lol
Since it has now been a full year.... yep one whole year since a dev has come to the hunter forums to discuss hunters I am left with palantir as my only hope in hearing about my class. I was told that hunters were being looked at in ROI and the skills that they were slotted to have didn't pan out because of being overpowered..... we have not had any major change since then and were promised we would be looked at.... a year ago. That is some customer service you have, not knocking you personally but to let an entire class go without a word from a dev, except to close threads, is inexcusible. I have a friend who is no longer part of the program and tells me that there are devs here that actually play the hunter class and understand them. Can just one of you please come to the hunter forums. We have had nothing since before ROI and have been slipping further and further since then. We have no clue where the hunter class is going, what changes may be in store or skills that may be fixed or updated. In other words we are left blind in the wilderness.
Thank you for your time.
Tydalmir
http://www.lotro.com/gameinfo/devdia...r-diary-hunterQuote:
Originally Posted by Tinluen
We are making a few changes to the Private Preview Program.
Please keep an eye on these forums for information.
We will post a brand new thread when the information is available.
Thank you all for your interest in this program!!