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Hi fellows from Middle Earth,
As you know, today LOTRO releases the Legacy Bundle. I am currently not VIP and don't have 8 regions (most of them are regions from Gondor and beyond). However, I have all expansions. I am also an occasional player.
From your opinion, is the bundle a good deal for an occasional player like me?
I appreciate all opinions from Free People in Middle Earth.
Thank you and Happy Holiday.
Hello :)
If you can afford it is indeed a nice offer!
1 year of VIP + all quest packs + gifts for something like 23000 LotRO Points (worth 199$)
It's your choice ;).
If you already have the expansions than that's going to take alot of the 'good deal' away from the it. Also as an occasional player you'd have to look at how much playing would make it worth it. If you only play once or twice a month you won't get to alot of the content. I know when I have a sub running I play every day to get my monies worth out of it. When I'm just in my Premium status I might not touch the game for a month or two at a time.
The deal sounds like it would really be good for someone with lower level (pre-Moria) characters that will play enough each month to get through all the content.
Since you already own quite some of the more expensive content like QP and expansions, imho that depends on what you like to do in-game and what you already planned to do and buy from now on.
Some of the later regions (Far Anorien and Where Dragons dwell) are about 1995 LP. Most QPs in Gondor are 795 LP when not on sale.
Do you like housing and especially Premium housing and decorating and/or working from your home? Or do you plan to buy a Premium kinship house for your kinship? Do you want to put down those housing items at any house?
Do you want to upkeep a Premium house once VIp is gone?
Do you use larger amounts of MC for other things? 250 MC and those 20 writs are nice but you can't mix them so far for buying a house. And writs are bound as far as I know.
One year of sub gives quite some LP you can spend on other things. Besides the perks mentioned that one month of sub would also grant you.
Taking your own playtime in account was already mentioned from others.
Sum up what you would buy and pay without this pack and then make a decision. At least that is what I would do.
https://www.lotro.com/en/LegacyBundleQuote:
Originally Posted by danquanngaytho
Yeah, you already have the expansions and being an occasional player. You could just get the other content by buying some LP. Some of that stuff seems to be for the LI system and traiting a single character - Maybe for more serious player. The housing stuff may be cool, but I don't know.
I don't know what the "Wallet" is supposed to be. is that supposed to say "Premium Wallet" I wonder.
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Originally Posted by WarmBeaches
Wallet means Premium Wallet - at least that is what is mentioned in the German translation of the Market page.
ahh, cool. thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derquin
That really depends on what kind of player you are. I can see this bundle being potentialy popular with returning non-lifer players, those who like housing and were so far hesitant to buy either Premium house or crafting stations plus those who would buy 12-month VIP and LP anyway.
Maybe some newish but already hooked players also - the question of "what should I buy to have 100% access" has been popular in the forums as of late.
If you're an occasional player who already owns parts of the bundle, it's simply a matter of calculating the costs and pondering if you'll actually use some of the items provided. Or is it better to buy LP during double days.
Players can compare the offer to this thread: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Build-Your-Own
This bundle is overkill for me because I've bought all the quest packs (and expansions) over the years and have unlocked items such as the wallet and the riding skill for all my characters and went VIP for a while which unlocked VIP perks that I kept when I went premium.
What happens once the one year VIP expires? Is access to all the content then lost?
How does this deal make sense on the LS, when Moria will not be released until at least 4 months after the LS started? Much of the content will not be accessible after 1 year if subsequent cap increases take many months to arrive.
I feel that, as has been the case for a long time now, many players are given a puzzle, a dilemma of sorts. For some players this is a no-brainer: it seems like a nice offer but it may require them to continue to stay VIP. For lifers and many premium players this deal makes no sense.
To players in between it will vary. They may have invested in part of the offer already, and will parse out whether the rest is worth the $199.
What I am curious about is: what are SSG's plans for the near future with regard to premium players? Will it eventually become less desirable to play the game as a premium player? Will there be a stronger push to VIP?
Between Legendary servers and new items like this bundle, this is something I've been pondering as well. I own pretty much all the content(give or take a skirm or two), paid cash for all expansions, bought LPs, went VIP occasionally. Have reasons not to spend money anymore. Should we indeed be moving towards subscription-only model again, where would it leave Premium players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Happybudgy
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Originally Posted by kudurru1
That is the question. And one that will keep me from investing much more money in this game. I refuse to keep paying repeatedly for things I already paid for.
Access to all the content is not lost when the one year VIP expires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happybudgy
This. You will have to calculate. Legacy bundle is a very good deal for new players. It is useless for veterans. And those in-between will have to do the math.Quote:
Originally Posted by kudurru1
This is what I thought. Thanks SSG_RedPanda for clarifying it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SSG_RedPanda
Welden
This is an amazing deal.. I haven't calculated the individual costs, but when I think of what the expansion packs cost and the cost of the mithril coins and mounts and premium wallets, etc, etc, etc.
Anyone who decides to get this pack is saving hundreds of dollars...
This is the best deal to come along since the Lifetime account deal. With a lifetime account, I still had to buy all of the expansions and the points to get all of the other perks that are included..
Kudos SSG. With the success of the legendary servers and this deal.. Wow.
If it helps I did this last night after a few folks from my discord asked :) This link is for a google spreadsheet with Comparison Value https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Does anyone know what is included in "ALL" House Crafting Items?
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldalleth
Sergio :-)
My opinion:
It IS a good deal if you are a new player that has not bought any expansions yet, and is playing characters currently below 50 on any server (legendary or regular live).
It MAY be a good deal if you don't want to pay for VIP after the year is up, as all quest packs will be retained and you can continue to level up to 120 without paying for any content.
It IS NOT a good deal, if you already own all expansions and plan to be VIP either way. You would be better off buying VIP for 1 year for $99, and then spending $99 in Lotro Points, purchase all the extra goodies.... or just get the specific goodies you find useful, and still have a buckload of LP left!
As I already own all expansions, and some of them have been pre-order, so all my characters already get a buckload of pre-order stuff, including 2 Crystals of Remembrance on each toon (bound of course), it doesn't seem worth it to me. I'll wait and see if a year sub to VIP ever goes on a good sale! :D
Oven, Forge, Workbench and Study.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dementia
Thank you
And the superior field for the farmer if the German Translation is correct. The English Version says ALL House Crafting items, the German and the French Translation each list all five of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by maartena
We are on the same page. When legendary servers are released with newer hardware, the fate of original servers and F2P/premium players may be at stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happybudgy
I hope that "One Paying Model Will Rule Them All" may not happen. With all purchased current expansions, I only like to go VIP when I have much free time to enjoy the game.
Farmland is also included.Quote:
Originally Posted by maartena
The most important consideration for me was the following:
*Access to all quest packs, including expansions
*VIP: access to all quest packs, excluding expansions
These two things offer the same for me, as I already have all expansion packs with the exception of Mordor. It's not double value, it's double billing: paying for content you don't need.
ON top of that, I can't justify spending 200$ in a MMO that I played less than 100 hours in 2017.
I'll settle with just VIP and temporary content for a month or two :)
On a different note: if I was a new player, knowing this game would be for me for many years to come, I'd spend it. Heh, then I probably was a life-timer too.
Hello lotro community,
i play all major mmorpgs from everquest to world of warcraft, and i've bought many many collectors bundles over the years. The deciding factor has always been the value plus items included with the deal.
With this being said. I have recently started playing lotro, and even though it's f2p i'm quite enjoying rhe gameplay, even though the constant server disconnects and animation battle lags are quite annoying.
But i still want to play it however being a 11 year old game with current managements lack of enthusiasm into fixing character and gameplay issues i'm kind of on the fence of dumping $200.00 of my hard earned money into this game with an uncertain future laid out by ssg
the legacy bundle sounds like a really great deal and makes me want to go ahead and buy it......but theres one problem. If ssg really wanted to hook brand new players with its deal by offering all the quests raids instances and skirmishes up to dec 31st so the can enjoy all the content the game has to offer plus 1 year vip, then you should have included all the races and classes too to make a new player really want to join right away. Without half-elf, beoring, rune keeper, and warden included in this $200.00, it's jusy not worth it for me because i won't be able to fully enjoy all content with all characters and classes.
Imho if you got rid of the housing perks your offering and replaced it with the races and classes i mentioned i would buy this $200.00 bundle right now plus my group of 13 friends i play with would do the same thing, and i'm sure all those other on the fence new players or old returning players or the current f2p players that are still undecided would also jump at this deal if they could get all races and classes
don't know what ssg's thoughts are on this but i bet if you asked your sale/marketing team about this i bet they would see all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ signs they woulg get compared to the current legacy bunndle they offered
but at this moment with the way this bundle syands i will doing a hard pass on it. Dom't feel im getting the best return for my $200 on an 11 year old game with no management supervivion
MysteryMeatDish, let me just start by saying that the bundle is definitely worthy even without classes and races in question. I can't stress it enough, it is really a great opportunity for new players. This bundle is time limited, as things stand at the moment, offer ends on December 16th this year. There is initiative for this deadline to be prolonged.
Last time I checked (without any discount), classes Rune Keeper and Warden cost 795 LP each, races Beorning and High_Elf 1000 LP each. Race + character slot is 1295 LP. With this bundle you get 500 LP each month for one year, and just by playing the game and doing deeds you will earn some more LP. That is to say, you can get at least one class or race very fast.
Future is not really uncertain, they have a plan for upcoming content and changes, and some of it is known to us through official infos. As for fixing things, yes, I very much agree with you there, and we all are pressing and rooting for it to be done as fast as possible.
Mirhean, i appreciate your response and opinion, but we are going to have to agree to disagree.
As a new player i want to jump in and experience the content of the game with all classes and all races. I know you get 500lps each month and you can earn additional lp while playing but that process takes over a month which we should not have to wait. For that kind of money i'm asked to give i should be able to log on get my half-elf character ,pick rune keeper as my class or warden, and start to play. 65% of the content won't be available for me to play until later on in the year because of all the level grinding i will have to do so why prevent us from starting right away with all the race and classes rather than waiting for your free lp points to accumulate over 2 months time to be able to purchase from in game store 1 beoring or 1 rune keeper or 1 half elf or 1 warden but not all 4 at once. Most new players don't have the luxury of playing full time like you veterans and the limited time we have we would like to spend it playing with the races and classes we like right away. I mean you are asking us to give $200 which is a substantial amount of money even for a lotro fanboi as well as a first player or f2p player. Your losing nothing and gaining a more increased subscription pool of applicants that will dive right in and probably play for years to come.
So this is my opinion and my stance i have no desire to purchase this legacy bundle if i cannot also have included the complete races and classes that are in the game as of dec 31st.
Thank you
this is not a hate driven commentary, it is an honest one.
I believe big business decisions always need to be adjusted to adapt to the changes in game players mentalities, and if ssg changed the 1 small point of including all races and classes in this bundle they would experience a greater return on their investment and a larger player pool for the future of lotro
No, I'm not playing full time either. We got those classes and races with time. That is to say they were not available right from the beginning. Rune Keeper and Warden came with Moria, Beorning with Gondor, High Elf with Mordor. I do not disagree with you at all, sure it would be fantastic if all races and classes are included in this offer, but that's not the case and yet it is still valid that this bundle is a very good offer as it will save you lots of coins in the future. After all, it's not like you gonna roll all classes at once. And you should be wise to wait with Beorning since balancing is in the progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysteryMeatDish
And no worries, I didn't take your comment in any negative way, quite contrary. I am a veteran, this bundle is useless for me but because I am in this game for years, I only tried to give you best possible advice for your own benefit. I done my part and whatever your decision, I hope you will have fun :)
It's a pretty good deal for new players, and even some who've played a while. You're making a significant saving on all the individual parts, and you get a wide mix of content and goodies to help make the game more enjoyable.
-Bel
Used to play LOTRO for a few hours a day, now down to the occasional dabble, got all the areas and QP, all the races so in my opinion its like paying for the whole thing again and getting the few little extras as a bonus, even though they seem quite nice.
What I would love to is to have the ability to purchase a stable master unlock for swift travel permanently for my characters rather than subscribe for a month, a small thing but it frustrates me so much running here and there needlessly.
Remembering previous years' holiday sales had Quad Pack and Rohan at only 25% regular price and last year had individual expansions at only 15% regular price, which was even cheaper than when bundled in Quad Pack on sale. Will those discounts repeat this year?