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  1. #1
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    Exclamation Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Check Patience's announcement at the top of the page. There are no player maintained Kinship listings anymore. Instead, we're to use the lorebook.

    http://forums.lotro.com/announcement.php?f=186&a=7


    Meneldor's full listing is here.
    http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Meneldor:All


    How to Make your Kinship's page

    I made this post because last night was the first time I ever really tried mucking about in a wiki. I always thought they were too clunky to bother with. Fortunately, thanks to a very handy template within the Lorebook, making a kinship page is painless, quick, and leaves your teeth whiter and your breath minty fresh.

    Step 1: Assign someone, preferably the leader or a senior officer from your Kin to post, maintain and update the page.

    Step 2: Make sure you are logged into the Lorebook.

    Step 3: Go to http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Template:NewKinship and read it.

    Step 4: Then go to http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Example:Kinship At the top of the example page is an EDIT button right next to the HISTORY button. Do not use the edit links in the page itself, you won't get the full text.

    Once you have the editing page open, copy everything in the page. All of it.

    Step 5: Enter your Kinship name in the Search box on the left side of the Lorebook. Make sure you spell it correctly, and with any capitalization you wish to use. You should be taken to a page telling you no listing was found. The first line is "There is no page titled "Kin name". You can create this page. Click on "create this page"

    Step 6: Once you create the page you will see a message informing you the page has no text. click on "edit this page"

    Step 7 If you're logged in you'll now see the editor. Paste everything you copied in step 4into this new page and hit save. You now have a generic entry for your Kinship.

    Step 8 Edit the entry to suit your needs. The template is pretty straight forward and tells you what to change and enter into your entry. You can change headings or rename the existing ones. All the formating is handled by the template. So as long as you copied it correctly and don't mess with any of the funny tags and squiggly lines, what you end up with should look something like this: http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/DBS_BlackSheep

    If you've never edited a Wiki it will take some getting used to. Just follow the steps and you'll be fine. Don't be afraid to experiment, you can always fix your mistakes or revert back to a previous version.

    CAUTION: If you follow the instructions on the making a new kinship entry, it will tell you to search on "Kinship: Kin Name" DO NOT DO THIS. As you can see why here: http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Meneldor:All It will list your kin as "Kinship: Kin Name" and you'll end up listed in the K's. As you can see, some of us made that mistake. ONLY enter your kin name to avoid this. That way the page title is your kin title.

    A word of advice, a wiki entry is editable by ANYONE. It is also tracked when an edit is made. So if you think you're going to be crafty and mess with someone's kin entry, I'd be looking over my shoulder waiting for the ban hammer to come crashing down.

    To give you an idea of how well Wiki's document who changed what and when, take a look: http://lorebook.lotro.com/index.php?...action=history

    Hope this helps. Now even Kins who do not have a website should be able to make up a nice page representing their group.

    Edit: Missed a step. Inserted step 4. Now 8 steps total.

    Note: You can also make a character page and link it to the meneldor character pages: http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Categ...yer_Characters
    The process is exactly the same as described above, except the player template is here: http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Example:Player_Character
    Last edited by DBSRick; Apr 18 2008 at 11:56 AM.

  2. #2
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    Post Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Thanks for the info Rick.

    In Middle Earth from Beta 2

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Nudging this since I was asked today where it went. See? I didn't kill it.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Could be a different group.. but did you guys used to play Unreal tournament?

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Nope, but we had some CS Source players for awhile. We did have some Guys in WoW that played UT. It might have been them. But they used a different name.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    My thanks to Rick for this how-to. I followed it and had a page up in no time.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Anytime.

    All the information was in the lorebook itself it just wasn't very easy to find, and there were a couple of confusing older posts. For anyone without a general understanding of how to use a Wiki it was confusing.

    I figured I'd help people avoid the mistakes and confusion I dealt with. Glad it helped.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Just giving this a solid nudge back to the top of the pile.

    I've seen quite a few new kins on the server and thought this might help them get their lorebook pages up and running.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Woot! Stickification.

    Thanks Patience.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    And well deserved. This is the number one most useful post I have found on the forums.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Someone borked (errantly edited) the "help" links as provided in Airamis' original post here.

    /sigh X10

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    It should work correctly again. The entry has been reverted to the original.

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    Re: Official Lorebook Kinship Pages - How to

    Dumb Question can you create your own template? if so does it have to have a specific file extention?

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    my kinship page still will not open

    I followed the instructions and I managed to create my kinship page, thank you for the info, but no one in my kinship can access the page.
    http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Enemies_Of_Your_Enemies

    I hope someone can let me know what I did wrong.

 

 

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