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  1. #1
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    Who the heck is Anathron!?

    *Warning possible spoilers*

    While I was finally doing Vol I Book 15 a few days ago, there was a certain instance where you actually meet Sauron under his elven disguise during the second age amongst the Mirdain.

    But lo and behold, while I was clearly expecting Annatar The Lord of Gifts as clearly documented in The Silmarillion and The Unfinished Tales (or Lost Tales? Can't remember or find the books again in all my boxes) and now he is renamed Anathron.

    I'm wondering why the sudden break with the lore when throughout, the game has been fairly thourough in sticking with Tolkien's works.

    Does anyone have an explanation?

    Regards
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel View Post
    *Warning possible spoilers*

    While I was finally doing Vol I Book 15 a few days ago, there was a certain instance where you actually meet Sauron under his elven disguise during the second age amongst the Mirdain.

    But lo and behold, while I was clearly expecting Annatar The Lord of Gifts as clearly documented in The Silmarillion and The Unfinished Tales (or Lost Tales? Can't remember or find the books again in all my boxes) and now he is renamed Anathron.

    I'm wondering why the sudden break with the lore when throughout, the game has been fairly thourough in sticking with Tolkien's works.

    Does anyone have an explanation?

    Regards
    Turbine doesn't have the rights to the name "Annatar". They had to make a new name that basically means the same thing.

    EDIT: As an aside, Sauron looks sorta neat in that instance. His raven black hair and that robe with the shots of red throughout basically scream that this guy isn't your best friend :-)
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Do you know why they don't have the rights for that specific name but everything else so far?
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Do you know why they don't have the rights for that specific name but everything else so far?
    turbine only has the rights for the lord of the rings books, in which sauron is never referred to as Annatar

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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Quote Originally Posted by newwwwb View Post
    turbine only has the rights for the lord of the rings books, in which sauron is never referred to as Annatar
    What this guy said. If it's not mentioned in The Hobbit, LOTR, or the Appendix, Turbine can't use the material without getting their butts sued into oblivion.
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Aaah I see, that's too bad.

    I hope eventually they'll revise that otherwise we're gonna see more and more inconsistencies like that crop up.

    Thanks for the info.
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arasilion View Post
    What this guy said. If it's not mentioned in The Hobbit, LOTR, or the Appendix, Turbine can't use the material without getting their butts sued into oblivion.
    Pretty much said it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel View Post
    Thanks for the quick reply!

    Do you know why they don't have the rights for that specific name but everything else so far?
    Because owners ever gave permissions to use lotr and hobbit related stuff,keeping silmarillion and stuff tied to it for themselves and since this part of the lore is contained within silmarillion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan1988 View Post
    Because owners ever gave permissions to use lotr and hobbit related stuff,keeping silmarillion and stuff tied to it for themselves and since this part of the lore is contained within silmarillion...
    That question was asked ~12 years ago and answered to with the same info you give in your answer. So I guess this is /necro.
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    Re: Who the heck is Anathron!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel View Post
    *Warning possible spoilers*

    While I was finally doing Vol I Book 15 a few days ago, there was a certain instance where you actually meet Sauron under his elven disguise during the second age amongst the Mirdain.

    But lo and behold, while I was clearly expecting Annatar The Lord of Gifts as clearly documented in The Silmarillion and The Unfinished Tales (or Lost Tales? Can't remember or find the books again in all my boxes) and now he is renamed Anathron.

    I'm wondering why the sudden break with the lore when throughout, the game has been fairly thourough in sticking with Tolkien's works.

    Does anyone have an explanation?

    Regards

    Well, as others have said, Turbine doesn't have the rights to the name "Annatar, The Lord of Gifts". But, they have given us a close facsimile. Instead of Annatar, we have Antheron.


    Annatar comes from Quenya:

    Anna (gift) + tar (noble, royal, high, lord) = Annatar (Lord of Gifts)



    Antheron comes from Sindarin:

    Ant (gift) + heron (master) = Antheron (Master of Gifts)
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