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  1. #1
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    Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    Does anyone know the mechanics of Morgaraf's aggro wipe? Is it tied to the increasing fire DoT debuff? Is it tied to chastising fires? None of the debuffs applied when you're tanking him mention anything about it. And, when you are hit with the threat wipe, I notice it's a timed skill. I'm pretty sure you lose all threat when the timer expires, so the timer's there to give your group a few seconds for someone else to take control of the aggro. Am I correct, or is it just that you have no perceived threat while the timer is ticking down, and return to your normal level when it's gone?

    Thanks in advance for any info anyone can share!
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  2. #2
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    I cannot say definitively but it seems to me that he gives the -100% threat debuff and it's just perceived threat, the same as Durchest and the Armoured Maces. Once it wears off, threat should go back to the main tank w/o issue. If you time it right, you can challenge right after you get the debuff and it will last for the duration and agro won't swap. But the problem is that it gives the debuff more frequently than you can challenge so it doesn't work all the time. Regarding preventing it, we never found a way to interrupt it or anything.

    We have only tried this fight a few times and haven't successfully beaten it...but it wasn't agro on Morgaraf that caused us problems.
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  3. #3
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    As the single, aggro-target fire DoT tiers up, both its intensity and duration increase. In my experience, if you let it tier up so it gets beyond the 60 second duration tier, you'll get the "making music..." countdown and when that expires it causes an AoE knockback and (apparently) actual (not perceived) aggro drop or wipe to all those knocked back. If a guardian gets that: engage. If others do, it will be more challenging to reaquire aggro but not impossible.
    Last edited by Seoras; Mar 19 2010 at 11:20 AM.
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    Ah I am getting my threat wiping mechanics confused. I will go back over in the corner. =)
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    I've noticed that the aggro wipe comes when the yellow eye gets on the tank and he has to move away from the boss. What I'm wondering is: Is the eye itself the aggro reset, or is it the knockback distance that triggers it? We almost got HM with 1 tank (warden), and that was with 4+ aggro resets. Is there any way to avoid those AT ALL or is this basically a 2 tank fight?
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    Quote Originally Posted by zenkmander View Post
    I've noticed that the aggro wipe comes when the yellow eye gets on the tank and he has to move away from the boss. What I'm wondering is: Is the eye itself the aggro reset, or is it the knockback distance that triggers it? We almost got HM with 1 tank (warden), and that was with 4+ aggro resets. Is there any way to avoid those AT ALL or is this basically a 2 tank fight?
    Use two tanks on the fire boss shifting aggro so the debuff can expire before it gets too high and you won't get the yellow eye or its aggro wipe/drop.
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    Re: Morgaraf's aggro wipe

    I believe the yellow/green eye is both aggro reset and AoE knockback. The only time person who gets it is when they remain at the top of the threat table for too long (or it could be tied to tiering up of the flame DoT, effectively the same thing). Swapping threat between two or more players will both avoid this debuff and keep the fire DoT from tiering up so high.
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