Two-word Tolkien Trivia

[Vilnas]

I would like for this to be pursued further, if you are willing to play along. The Odin/Gandalf angle is not the correct answer, but you are on the right path with that type of approach.

[Vilnas]

I want to let this marinate a bit longer and would still appreciate your attempts to solve it. However, since my riddle was unfairly unorthodox, in the meantime allow me to present an alternative puzzle following the usual format:

Fortunate Fivesome?

[KonstantinPalailogos]

I want to let this marinate a bit longer and would still appreciate your attempts to solve it. However, since my riddle was unfairly unorthodox, in the meantime allow me to present an alternative puzzle following the usual format:

Fortunate Fivesome?

The 5 ponies Merry hired that stayed with Barliman (or rather, came back to him) and didn't accompany the hobbits.

[Vilnas]

The 5 ponies Merry hired that stayed with Barliman (or rather, came back to him) and didn't accompany the hobbits.

Just so. Please feel free to pose the next one, and we will leave my Oublietted Royal question out there as an alternate riddle.

[seltin97]

On the oublietted royal only one idea came to me:Morgoth. He was thrown outside the paths of time and reality into the void, and forgotten by most people of middle earth(Except elves) , and as for "Royal" he is/was an Ainu, the lords of the Vala, and he was the dark lord

[Vilnas]

Thank you Seltin, but that is not correct either (although it is yet another guess that fits the clue pretty well).

To recap what I explained above, for this particular riddle you need to find a non-JRRT lore solution to the "oublietted royal" clue, and this intermediate solution will point directly to a single and (hopefully) obvious final answer found in one of the three main JRRT texts (Hobbit, LotR and Silmarillion). I have also advised the audience that final answer is not someone or something that was "oublietted" - that part of the clue only applies to the intermediate step.

If it helps narrow things down, the intermediate answer can be found pretty explicitly in an old book and a relatively recent (last 15 years) movie based on that book.

[seltin97]

Just as a question: How old is the book? Old as in Tolkien-old,or older? And is it fantasy?

[seltin97]

Wait! I just got an idea! If the old book is at least in some way related to Tolkien, and a movie came out recently, than the only thing i can think of is Beowulf(Tolkien studied it extensively). Is that correct?

Because if it is, that only advances us a little bit, as i cant seem to remember any "Oublietted" Things, both in the sense of forgotten or jailed... Beowulf was a royal.so was Hroogar. The only other thing i can thing of is that sword made by the giants that laid there for a untold number of ages... Of course, i may be completely off...

[Vilnas]

Just as a question: How old is the book? Old as in Tolkien-old,or older? And is it fantasy?

The book in question is by a 19th century European author.

[Vilnas]

Wait! I just got an idea! If the old book is at least in some way related to Tolkien, and a movie came out recently, than the only thing i can think of is Beowulf(Tolkien studied it extensively). Is that correct?

Because if it is, that only advances us a little bit, as i cant seem to remember any "Oublietted" Things, both in the sense of forgotten or jailed... Beowulf was a royal.so was Hroogar. The only other thing i can thing of is that sword made by the giants that laid there for a untold number of ages... Of course, i may be completely off...

Thank you for your continued efforts on this. The answer to the intermediate clue is a royal person who has been jailed. It is unrelated to Beowulf.

[BIGeyedBUG]

The book in question is by a 19th century European author.

First step: The Man in the Iron Mask by Dumas?

Second step: There are three prominent possibilities I can think of. I'll go first for the one that doesn't fit with the others: Azaghal, Lord of Belegost, though no doubt he'd resent being referred to as a man, even obliquely.

[Morthaur]

Oublietted Royal

The Line of Isildur.

They are presumed missing in the North and the South, some hobbits wonder if there ever was a king in the first place. If they hadnt been "forgotten" agents of Sauron would have hunted them down.

[KonstantinPalailogos]

Just so. Please feel free to pose the next one, and we will leave my Oublietted Royal question out there as an alternate riddle.

My riddle is:
Captain's Folly

[Vilnas]

First step: The Man in the Iron Mask by Dumas?

Second step: There are three prominent possibilities I can think of. I'll go first for the one that doesn't fit with the others: Azaghal, Lord of Belegost, though no doubt he'd resent being referred to as a man, even obliquely.

Ding ding ding! Nicely done, and thanks for unraveling that one.

[darkoutcast]

Ding ding ding! Nicely done, and thanks for unraveling that one.

That was an absolutely fantastic riddle.

[Vilnas]

Well, I'm glad you liked it when all was said and done. I think in the future I will have to use that format judiciously, and when presenting two step riddles like that should probably provide some limiting parameters up front. It's one thing to ask our group to find the needle in a haystack consisting of three books by JRRT. It's quite another when the haystack consists of the entire breadth of world mythology, modern literature and popular culture.

[Vilnas]

My riddle is:
Captain's Folly

I have some thoughts on this but will hold off for a day since I asked the last two riddles.

[imjustthatawesome]

My riddle is: Captain's Folly

Would it be Boromir going to Imladris when he was more needed in Gondor eventually leading to his death?

[KonstantinPalailogos]

Would it be Boromir going to Imladris when he was more needed in Gondor eventually leading to his death?

No, but good guess

[BIGeyedBUG]

Captain's Folly:

"I do not counsel prudence." i.e., the apparent folly of Gandalf (Called by Aragorn "our captain and our banner.") in advising a frontal assault on Mordor after Pellenor?

[KonstantinPalailogos]

Captain's Folly:

"I do not counsel prudence." i.e., the apparent folly of Gandalf (Called by Aragorn "our captain and our banner.") in advising a frontal assault on Mordor after Pellenor?

Also no, but another good answer.

[imjustthatawesome]

Captain's Folly:
I think I'll stick with the Boromir train of thought. Would it be Boromir attempting to take the ring from Frodo by force?

[seltin97]

Faramir following Denethor s'orders and going back to Osgilliath?

Ar-Phazaron Leading Numenor to ruin?

[KonstantinPalailogos]

Damn, I like how everyone always comes up with a collection of good answers.

Those aren't right, but definitely keep Numenoreans in mind.

[darkoutcast]

Since all quieted down, I figured I'd throw out another guess just to try and get juices going...

Those who drowned after they landed on Fastitocalon?