New Guardians pvp help

[yorrie]

After so many players asking me on setup for u16.2 pvp, please find a short video on setup and some skill rotations, alot of guardians know all this but theres still alot that doesn't, hope it helps new guardians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWTxo3rDD6I

[Kaern48]

Any specific reason you don't have insult to injury maxed out? A 50% chance to proc a bleed is beautiful. My thrill build traits are very similar to yours, I just reduce to points in numbed senses and the +inc healing trait to add to insult.

[yorrie]

Any specific reason you don't have insult to injury maxed out? A 50% chance to proc a bleed is beautiful. My thrill build traits are very similar to yours, I just reduce to points in numbed senses and the +inc healing trait to add to insult.

hey kaern like i said this is for newbie guardians, of course old guardians know whats best for themselfs, insult to injury Your damaging attacks have a chance to renew all debuffs on your target, its for debuffs not bleeds.

[dwarfThar]

hey kaern like i said this is for newbie guardians, of course old guardians know whats best for themselfs, insult to injury Your damaging attacks have a chance to renew all debuffs on your target, its for debuffs not bleeds.

Actually it's for bleeds, too. And probably one of the most important traits for a damaging Guardian.

[Zonflux]

Any specific reason you don't have insult to injury maxed out? A 50% chance to proc a bleed is beautiful. My thrill build traits are very similar to yours, I just reduce to points in numbed senses and the +inc healing trait to add to insult.

hey kaern like i said this is for newbie guardians, of course old guardians know whats best for themselfs, insult to injury Your damaging attacks have a chance to renew all debuffs on your target, its for debuffs not bleeds.

Actually it's for bleeds, too. And probably one of the most important traits for a damaging Guardian.

Great debate!

[Radiate] Your damaging area of effect skills will transfer your damaging and non-damaging debuffs to additional targets.

[Insult to Injury] Your damaging attacks have a chance to renew all debuffs on your target.

By the way that [Radiate] is worded a bleed would be considered a type of debuff in the category of a damaging debuff.

Since [Insult to Injury] says it has a chance to renew ALL DEBUFFS then I would assume that it would renew bleeds since the wording of [Radiate] labels a bleed as a damaging debuff.

... Feel free to debate or enlighten.

[harman097]

There's nothing to debate. Test it properly and you'll see a large increase in the number of bleed ticks.

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...54215-Confused

[Arathaert]

Thanks for the video Yorrie! I can positively confirm that Insult to Injury does indeed increase your bleed damage significantly - I have both that and radiate maxed out.

Another thought - instead of going full audacity armour, several folks on my server are going with four 5-slot pieces and two 3-slot pieces. This gives the two-piece set bonus and a gain of 8 essence slots, which you can use for increased morale, fill in crit def or more damage. Just a thought

[Zonflux]

Another thought - instead of going full audacity armour, several folks on my server are going with four 5-slot pieces and two 3-slot pieces. This gives the two-piece set bonus and a gain of 8 essence slots, which you can use for increased morale, fill in crit def or more damage. Just a thought

While I own six of the new audacity pieces I am currently only using two of them for PvMP. My current PvMP build is four audacity + two 5-slot essence pieces (for Morale). When I get more 5-slot pieces I may consider using a 4 ess + 2 aud build. At the moment I am finding the 4-slot pieces inadequate compared to the audacity pieces because Audacity gives +% to Damage.

Currently in PvMP I am running with 35K Morale and 48K PM (around 168%). Where I would like to see my build go eventually is around 32K Morale and a Physical Mastery rating of at least 60-70K, probably a percentage between 180-200%. While I don't want to flop over dead, at the same time I don't enjoy these long battles to kill a creep. I want to hit hard and kill them fast. Yeah, yeah.. it sounds like I want my Guardian to be a Champion, well.. yeah actually I do when I am DPS though I realize that I'll never get the large devastates that a Champion will, but then we get more survivability.

[yorrie]

Most of the servers soon are going to be like brandywine, its going to be full audacity armour only for me sorry, nothing else comes close, when you have 20+ creeps raining down on you 4/5 slot essence armour hasn't got it! i still win most 1v1 with no heals with full audacity, haven't won one yet with 4 essence 2 moors armour with dps build, my dps was actually lower.

[Giliodor]

With all due respect, that trait tree is not how you want to trait. You want to max out Insult to Injury, it's one of your main damage sources.

http://www.lotrottp.lotrostatus.com/l.php?c=37Y

[yorrie]

With all due respect, that trait tree is not how you want to trait. You want to max out Insult to Injury, it's one of your main damage sources.

http://www.lotrottp.lotrostatus.com/l.php?c=37Y

Hey mate, your probably right, like i said a lot of pvp guardians know whats best for themselves, im getting asked a lot, how i play, like in you trait tree I wouldn't trait Brutal assault, skill is way to slow for me, I wouldn't cut it out with ignore the pain, power cost to high, stamp I use with sweeping cut.
But still trait tree very much the same as mine.

[Giliodor]

Hey mate, your probably right, like i said a lot of pvp guardians know whats best for themselves, im getting asked a lot, how i play, like in you trait tree I wouldn't trait Brutal assault, skill is way to slow for me, I wouldn't cut it out with ignore the pain, power cost to high, stamp I use with sweeping cut.
But still trait tree very much the same as mine.

Just try maxing it out, I would say it's more worth it than the 3% inc healing Glad to see you're still having fun with your guard ^^

[SpicyMacHaggis]

With all due respect, that trait tree is not how you want to trait. You want to max out Insult to Injury, it's one of your main damage sources.

http://www.lotrottp.lotrostatus.com/l.php?c=37Y

Any particular reason why you trait tireless blows? I find myself hardly using brutal assault because of the slow animiation and i rather use stamp to cut other animations.

[Arathaert]

I actually don't even have Brutal Assault on my toolbars :P In my testing, sting + stagger is faster, does more combined damage, and can heal you for more. No brainer for me.