Rain of arrows (how too fix)

[farniele]

How too fix RoA

after upd 22.2.2 RoA the hunter AoE have become pretty bad here are my idea's how too fix the skill.


-reduce the damage with 20-25%.

- reduce the amount of targets from maximum 10 too 5-6 targets max.

- please reduce the Hail of Arrows from 30 sec too 2-3 sec CD.

hunters will still be able too do some fair amount of AoE damage but it wont be able too spam AoE with one skill.


what also can be a option too put Hail of Arrows trait in yellow line in second row from the bottom or something like that.


Please give hunters some little love

[Decrepify]

Please give hunters some little love

Well then....that's a first.

[Forgotten_Legend]

Hail of Arrows procs only once every 30 seconds now? the trait is worthless. not worth 2 tiers of trait trait points.

[siipperi]

Hail of Arrows procs only once every 30 seconds now? the trait is worthless. not worth 2 tiers of trait trait points.

It's not. It's still most likely your most damaging skills on trash pulls...

[idontcare789]

It's not. It's still most likely your most damaging skills on trash pulls...

How to fix it....dont break it because youre ignorant of the fact it has a reset skill. Once you realize it does have one and the buff to damage of RoA was too much you dont go changing the trait, you roll back the damage increase. What in the world are devs doing? Seriously. I have to question decision making skills off moves like this.

[siipperi]

How to fix it....dont break it because youre ignorant of the fact it has a reset skill. Once you realize it does have one and the buff to damage of RoA was too much you dont go changing the trait, you roll back the damage increase. What in the world are devs doing? Seriously. I have to question decision making skills off moves like this.

They don't want hunter being AoE class. It certainly was extremely potent AoE class prior to this. It still has decent AoE opener but they want them do majority of their damage with ST skills (even though AoE skill most likely will be on top of the list on trash pulls).

It's clear changes like this are needed if they intent to reach proper balance. Classes like burglar really suffer because every other DPS specced class can/could do extremely good AoE DPS on extremely high amount of targets. Hunter should be single target with little AoE options.

[valkrye]

They don't want hunter being AoE class. It certainly was extremely potent AoE class prior to this. It still has decent AoE opener but they want them do majority of their damage with ST skills (even though AoE skill most likely will be on top of the list on trash pulls).

It's clear changes like this are needed if they intent to reach proper balance. Classes like burglar really suffer because every other DPS specced class can/could do extremely good AoE DPS on extremely high amount of targets. Hunter should be single target with little AoE options.

IMO there should be a ranged/tactical dps class that can do good AoE unless if RK gets some love in the next update. At the moment, the top AoE classes are Guardian and Champion, both of which are melee.

[Joedangod]

IMO there should be a ranged/tactical dps class that can do good AoE unless if RK gets some love in the next update. At the moment, the top AoE classes are Guardian and Champion, both of which are melee.

There should be a ranged AoE DPS class that can compete. Shouldn't be Hunter though, not unless they decide to rebrand one of the current Hunter traitlines as an AoE DPS and give it a bunch of skills to support that.

[Kazabooboo]

IMO there should be a ranged/tactical dps class that can do good AoE unless if RK gets some love in the next update. At the moment, the top AoE classes are Guardian and Champion, both of which are melee.

I am still working on it , but lm seems to be very strong in aoe atm.
It's just a bit tough to figure out the perfect rotation....Depends on so many things like RNG , mob positioning etc.
But yeah , it's strong.

[siipperi]

IMO there should be a ranged/tactical dps class that can do good AoE unless if RK gets some love in the next update. At the moment, the top AoE classes are Guardian and Champion, both of which are melee.

Well you have LM as ranged AOE... They have really good AoE.

Honestly I wouldn't object if melee classes are taking top spots on AoE DPS. Champ>guard>LM>Minstrel>Warden >RK>beorning>hunter>classes with no proper AoE. Considering how faceroll it's to be ranged and do AoE without putting yourself into any kind of danger.

[valkrye]

I am still working on it , but lm seems to be very strong in aoe atm.
It's just a bit tough to figure out the perfect rotation....Depends on so many things like RNG , mob positioning etc.
But yeah , it's strong.

I am not talking about landscape, by the way. In instances, LM will be preoccupied with other roles to even consider trying to be the AoE DPS.

[Joedangod]

In instances, LM will be preoccupied with other roles to even consider trying to be the AoE DPS.

Beats me why a red LM would be trying to do anything other than AoE DPS in a group.

[Giliodor]

Red line hunters are, by far, the highest single target DPS spec in the game. There isn't a single reason why they should have potent AoE while in their single target DPS line, that outperforms any other single target DPS spec.

There's nothing to fix.

[valkrye]

I would not be opposed to RoA being deep in blue line, but without 30s internal cd on the reset proc, and with a damage nerf.

[Joedangod]

I would not be opposed to RoA being deep in blue line, but without 30s internal cd on the reset proc, and with a damage nerf.

That kinda goes against the point they made by nerfing the reset. As a general principle they dislike allowing focus skills to dominate a rotation, that's why Barrage got changed. Old RoA pretty much dominated the rotation whenever you ended up with multiple targets. Now you hit harder with RoA initially but need to use some other skills during the reset downtime.

[Oelle]

As long as RoA has higher damage than penshot, its useful as is, even if it didnt hit multiple targets.

[Enzolas]

Just don't use point in Rain of Arrows now. It's useless skill.

[Joedangod]

Just don't use point in Rain of Arrows now. It's useless skill.

Except it isn't. If you're setting up to do AoE pulls with a Hunter you're definitely going to want to spec it.

[Enzolas]

Now it is senseless, 5 Rains of Arrow for 30 sec. AOE hunter is dead.

[Rimenuir]

Now it is senseless, 5 Rains of Arrow for 30 sec. AOE hunter is dead.

Exactly, the spam has been in game since (as far as I know) trait trees came out. Would be nice to see a reduction in damage if they keep the ability to get the trait back. Don't know why they wouldn't just roll back damage instead of setting an internal CD to it.

[ElfenLight]

Since rain of arrows has a 10s cooldown, make the critical reset cooldown also 10s (currently 30s) , this way, you can do two rain of arrows every 10 seconts. (providing you do two rain of arrows in a row after the first one crits.)

this will fix the problem, because than you can stil use Rain of Arrows pretty regulary but it wont be an AoE to death spam either.

[Eckenbrand]

2018 and devs still can't stop messing over the Hunter class.

[Strider5548]

The ROA change is very similar to Barrage imo. Both skills were ruined instead of fixed. The problem is creating CD's in a fast paced class rather than fixing damage that's too high. The flow is now super choppy and ROA is just annoying to use, just like barrage...

[mikkye]

Red line hunters are, by far, the highest single target DPS spec in the game. There isn't a single reason why they should have potent AoE while in their single target DPS line, that outperforms any other single target DPS spec.

There's nothing to fix.

Perhaps you not seen BR build 7 but rks are very very close behind hunters also being able to do aoe.

We want rain or arrows back and barrage bac but weake the damage plz not add these cd's that ruin rotations

[Justapvpdude]

Perhaps you not seen BR build 7 but rks are very very close behind hunters also being able to do aoe.

We want rain or arrows back and barrage bac but weake the damage plz not add these cd's that ruin rotations

Spamming the same skill over and over again isn't what I call a rotation